Thank you, sir. How's everybody doing? You good? Good. I am glad to hear that Chuck is okay. I thought I might have talked him to passing out, to unconsciousness, and I'm glad he's doing all right. And I'm glad you guys are here this evening. Before I get started, let me just say this has been just such an awesome conference, even from our perspective as Answers in Genesis. Me and Cody were talking today. What a blessing it has been to be here with you. It's so exciting to be at a church who understands the importance of this, where the leadership is willing to take a stand on the authority of God's Word and be bold about that and do it in love and bring people in. It's such just a blessing to be a part of that. And we just thank you from the bottom of our hearts. And in a few years' time, if you'd like to have us back, we would love. to come back. It really has been such an awesome blessing. So just thank you. Thank you for what you're doing. Thank you for your hospitality. I praise God for how He is using you as a church and using your leadership. And one of my favorite things about this ministry is not only going around giving answers, but I love linking arms with those who are passionate about the Word of God, passionate about the Kingdom of God. And just seeing how He works in other people's lives and other churches' lives, it is phenomenal. It's obvious He's doing some great stuff here. So I just praise God for that and just thank you for having us here. Also, before I jump in, I meant to make this announcement last night. If you want to see last night's talk, if you weren't here, if you need to re-watch it again, we actually had that one online for free where I gave that talk at another church not too long ago on the fossils and the rock layers and so forth. If you go to YouTube and just type in Answers in Genesis and Brian Osborne, you'll come up to our YouTube channel and you'll find that video and actually a video of me teaching about dinosaurs. So if you need to re-watch this again or share it with somebody, you can do that on YouTube and find it there. They'll free be there for you guys, all right? So we're going to jump right into this. We've talked a lot already. This morning was phenomenal. Praise God for that. But tonight, dinosaurs. I love dinosaurs. Anybody else love dinosaurs? Man, I've loved them since I was a kid. Yeah, me and my wife, we made the first ever Snow Rex, and I'm aware of. We did that a few years ago in Tennessee. It looks like a white Barney, but we did the best we could with what we had. We are teaching our son, Ian, to love dinosaurs as well, having a good time with that. As a ministry, we love dinosaurs. We've got a brand new Allosaurus exhibit put up in the museum. It is phenomenal. It's a world-class exhibit. It's literally one of the best Allosaurus fossils in the entire world, and it was donated to us. It's such a remarkable story about how we got it. God's hand was behind it. We named it Ebenezer for a biblical reason, not a Christmas story reason. Check it out if you're not familiar with it, all right? But it's really cool. We as a ministry, we got dinosaurs everywhere. There are dinosaurs in the gardens and as you walk around towards the back of the museum and during Christmas time, bless you, they are lit up, all right? And you can go around during Christmas time at the Creation Museum and see lit up stegosauruses and all kinds of really good stuff. Here's a lit up T-Rex attacking my wife and mother-in-law. All right. We love dinosaurs. And a bunch of other people love dinosaurs as well because they are fascinating. And because of that, one of the questions I get all the time that we get all the time as a ministry is how do you squeeze dinosaurs into the Bible? How do you fit them into the Bible? How do you do it? You guys want to know? I'm going to show you, okay? Look very closely. This is how you squeeze dinosaurs into the Bible. You don't. Some things are not meant to be squeezed into some things, amen? You don't squeeze a sumo wrestler into a tutu. You don't squeeze dinosaurs into the Bible. You might be saying, but wait, Brian, don't you guys believe in dinosaurs? Absolutely. But do you know why Christians don't have answers to things like dinosaurs? It's because we're trying to squeeze them into the Bible. We're trying to squeeze the rock layers into the Bible. We're trying to squeeze millions of years into the Bible. And here's the point. You don't squeeze things into the Bible. You don't take man's ideas outside of the Bible and try to squeeze those into the Word of God. What you do is we start with the Bible and use that to explain the world around us and to explain dinosaurs. And that's what we're going to do tonight. It's a very subtle but very dynamic difference. We're going to stand on God's Word and use that biblical history summarized here with the seven seas as we've seen before to give us a biblical worldview, the correct worldview to correctly understand and explain dinosaurs. Because as we've mentioned already before, the Bible gives us the big picture of history that we can use and apply to the evidence in the present. It gives us the right understanding of the past that we need to understand what we're looking at today. And one last time before I head out of here, I'll make this statement. This is ultimately a worldview issue. That's what it is. Because all scientists, they got the same dinosaur fossils, but they interpret those things differently based on their different starting assumptions, based on different worldviews. And if you start with the wrong assumptions, you get what? wrong conclusions. How fast was that calf going? Okay? And I'll give you one more story just for a little bit of fun. There was a guy who thought he was dead. And he was sad about that. Can't blame him. So he went to the doctor and said, Doctor, I've got a problem. I'm dead. And the doctor said, Well, you just walked into my office. You're talking. And the guy said, Yeah, but you know when things die, they have muscle spasms for a while, so maybe that explains why I can still walk and talk. Doctor said, okay, well, I've got your medical chart right here and it says you're perfectly healthy. The guy said, well, maybe that's not even my chart and maybe you're not reading it correctly. Who knows? Maybe somebody swapped the chart out when you weren't looking. Doctor's getting frustrated and he thought for a second. Got an idea. He said, all right, let me ask you this. Do dead men bleed? The guy thought for a second. Your heart stops pumping. Blood doesn't circulate. No. Dead men do not bleed. Doctor says, very good. He grabbed the needle, poked the guy on the finger, blood came out. And the guy looked at the finger and said, wow, how about that? Dead men do bleed. Did the doctor have evidence? Absolutely. Did the guy find the evidence convincing? No, because his worldview taught him how to interpret each line of evidence. This is ultimately a worldview issue. And a great example of this, we had a different talk about the age of the earth. This is a little snippet for you. A great example of this is the age of the earth. Do you know that up until the late 1700s, early 1800s, most scientists believed the biblical history and thought the earth was just thousands of years old? Does anybody know what they discovered in the late 1700s that changed their mind from believing biblical history and to instead believe in millions of years? Give you some hints. It wasn't new rocks or new fossils. They had the same rocks and the same fossils. Give you another hint. It wasn't radioisotope dating. That came around in the early 1900s. Anybody know what they found? Answer? Nothing is the trick question. They found nothing new, but what happened is a couple guys like James Hutton and Charles Lyle, they came on the scene and they said, you know what? We don't want to use the Bible to understand the world we're looking at. We don't want to assume that Noah's flood laid down most of the rock layers with the fossils in them, like most scientists did in their day. We want to try to explain these things with just natural processes. Leave God out of it. So they thought for a bit and they said, you know what? I bet we can explain all these rock layers and all these fossils with natural processes. If we give those natural processes enough what? time. And that's where the idea of millions of years was born. Not with any new evidence, a new interpretation of the evidence based on an anti-biblical worldview. And why did they choose to reject the Bible outright from the beginning? Well, look at their motivation. Charles Lyell said it well in a letter to a friend. His goal was to free science from Moses. Get God out of science. Why? Because it's a worldview issue, thus it is a heart issue. Sinful man does not want to be accountable to a holy and just God. That's what this is all about. But from that point in time, the majority of the scientific community adopted this secular, naturalistic, atheistic worldview, and they've looked at the evidence from that perspective ever since, for the most part. And here's the thing, once you start looking at something in a particular way, it can be almost impossible to see it in any other way. In a real sense, you can get brainwashed. You ever been brainwashed before? A couple of honest people. Do you guys mind? We're friends now, right? Can I brainwash you? Pastor said yes, I'm going for it, okay. I'm gonna tell you a story. At the end of the story, I'm gonna ask you two questions. There are specific answers to the two questions. Now, if you know the answers to the questions, you have not been brainwashed. Congratulations. But if you don't know, I brainwashed you. I got you to think the way I want you to think, and you probably have no idea how it happened, and I bet it happens in the very first sentence. So I'm gonna tell the story. If you know the answers at the end, don't yell them out, just raise your hand, but here's the story. Once upon a time, a man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways, turned left, jogged a little ways, turned left, jogged a little ways, turned left, and he jogged back home. As he was jogging back home, he noticed two masked men were waiting for him at home. That's the story. Here are the two questions. Who were the masked men, and why did he leave home jogging? If you know the answers, just raise your hand. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12. I'm guessing, okay, we're looking at about 92%, 93% have been brainwashed. Congratulations. How's it feel? Pretty good. I'll tell the story one more time to give you another shot at it. Okay? Once upon a time, a man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways and turned left. I'll give you a hint, left is important. He jogged a little ways, turned left, jogged a little ways, turned left, and he jogged back home. As he was jogging back home, he noticed two masked men were waiting for him at home. Again, who were the masked men and why did he leave home jogging? Anybody new get it? Maybe a couple. Okay, so most of you, over 90%, have been brainwashed. Doesn't feel good, does it? But now, don't worry, we're friends. I'm going to un-brainwash you. And I'm going to do it with a simple picture. And when you see this picture, you'll realize how simple this is. You might kick yourself or your neighbor and think, why could I not figure this out? All right, you ready? Once upon a time, a man left home jogging. He jogged a little ways, turned left, jogged a little ways, turned left, jogged a little ways, turned left, and he jogged back home to two masked men worthy catcher and the umpire. Isn't that just ridiculously easy, right? Why could you not figure that out? Probably because when I said he left home, you thought of a house. Jogging for some exercise, he came back home, the masked men were bad guys, they were robbers. And notice this, once you started interpreting those words in that particular way, it was almost impossible to see them in any other way. In a real sense, you were brainwashed. Do you want to see how generations of peoples now have been brainwashed, including our kids today? Give them a book like this. It says, I Can Read About Dinosaurs, and what do you think are the first words in the book? You guys had this book, okay. Millions of years ago. Here's another book. Millions of years ago. Even The Beloved Dr. Seuss, not on the first page. Millions of years ago. And this idea is everywhere. Me and my family went to Disney World a few years ago. Went to the Animal Kingdom. You know, the magical kingdom, the whole thing. Went to Animal Kingdom one day. Visited Dino Land and that day was not magical for me. Because everywhere we went we saw stuff like this. ride this roller coaster and go back 65 million years in time to catch a dino, or dig around in the boneyard and dig up things representing critters millions of years old, or walk through this trail representing the world as it was millions of years ago. Or think about it like this, meet little Joey, five years old, he's about to start school, public, private, homeschool, doesn't matter, and he already knows about evolution, Big Bang, dinosaurs lived millions of years ago, people evolved from apes, he knows all this. How? Meet his teachers. They're so cute and harmless, right? But guys, we have to realize, as I said the other day, that we are not the only fishers of men. We are not. And the secularists, one of the prom-baits they use are the dinosaurs to reel our kids into that secular naturalistic worldview that says, you know what? The Bible's history is wrong. If you can't trust what the Bible says about history, Why should you trust what it says about anything else? If Genesis 1-1 is wrong, why trust John 3-16? And again, I know I've said this before, but that's why it's so important. We're ready to give an answer for the hope that we have, answering the skeptical questions of this age. So let's get some answers about dinosaurs. You guys ready? Are you ready? You sure? All right, let's do it. Which day were they created? Day six, right? Look, here's a picture. Two T-Rexes in that picture. That proves it. Actually, does the Bible really tell us specifically when God made the T-Rex? No, but can we figure it out with some basic logic? Yeah, it's not that hard, right? For example, this is called syllogism, but basic logic. T-Rex is a land animal. Everybody agree? Great, and just to be technical here for a second, technically dinosaurs are land animals with a certain hip structure, legs underneath the body. Technically things like the plesiosaurs, the chronosaurs, the swimming reptiles are not technically dinosaurs, or the pterodactyls, the pterodonts are not dinosaurs either, although they're all usually associated. But technically dinosaurs are land animals altogether. The Bible says land animals were created on day six, true? Therefore T-Rex was created on day six. Who can figure this out with no help at all? doesn't take a rocket scientist, right? And again, the Bible is not a science textbook. It doesn't give us all the details. It doesn't list every name of every animal ever created. And I don't know about you, but I am glad about that. Could you imagine trying to read through that when you're reading through the scriptures? Have you ever read through Exodus or Leviticus, Numbers? Right? That can be tough sometimes, yeah. Just gives us the big picture. Plus, we got proof positive that Adam lived with dinosaurs in the garden. Here's a picture that Eve took, in case you guys were wondering. Now, I have to say, if you're a deep thinker, this is a post-fall photo, but I can't show a pre-fall photo to a post-fall audience. Hope you guys understand that, but if you don't, don't worry about it. So, people say, but wait, if God made dinosaurs on day six, then why don't we find the word dinosaur in the Bible? And it's true, we don't find the word dinosaur in the Bible. Neither is the word email, right? And anyone who has email knows it came after the curse, amen? Anyway, and so the word dinosaur was not invented until 1841 by a guy named Sir Richard Owen. It just means literally terrible lizard. It wasn't used that much until the early 1900s. So of course you don't expect to find it in those early English Bibles. It had not even been invented yet. But there's another word we find in those earlier English Bibles that in many cases appears to be describing dinosaurs. And that word is dragons, translated from the Hebrew word tanim. That occurs over 25 times throughout the Old Testament. It occurs in the New Testament as well in the form of dracos. A couple of examples of this, Psalm 74 13, thou breakest the heads of the dragons in the water. Maybe talking about the chronosaurus or something like the plesiosaur. But there's also a couple other places in the Bible where it appears that God's Word describes dinosaurs in more detail than any other animal in the entire Bible. Anybody know which book I'm talking about? Yeah, the book of Job, exactly right. You go to Job 40, verse 15, and God told Job to look at Behemoth. Now, if you understand the context of Job, right, Job had gone through a lot of trials and done surprisingly well, but he'd been questioning God a little bit, so God's coming on the scene to kind of put Job in his place, show Job his creative power, say, Job, trust me, I'm God, I've got this, right? So he wants to show his power, so he says, Job, look at Behemoth. So Behemoth has to be a real critter. And the word Behemoth just means a monstrous beast. That's all it means. And in your footnotes of your Bible, or if you have a study Bible, it'll probably tell you that Behemoth was maybe a hippo or an elephant. But let's see if the description given to Joe fits that of a hippo or an elephant. You look at verse 16. It says, what strength he has in his loins, what power in the muscles of his belly. So Behemoth has a big belly. And no one argues. Elephants, they have big bellies. Right? Hippos, they have big bellies. He's got a bigger belly. He wins. This guy's got a big belly, too. I'm not sure what that proves. You already saw that big belly. I just thrown it up there one more time. Yeah, sorry. I'll get it off the screen. Verse 17, it says, his tail sways like a cedar tree. It says a cedar, it means cedar tree. So what's implied there, behemoth's tail sways like a huge tree that lumbers back and forth in the wind. You ever looked at the tail of a hippo or an elephant? What pathetic examples of trees, right? I mean if God was talking about one of those to Job, behold Job, he moves his tail like a twig, all right? It's a twig tail. All right, so let's put like a, let's put a tree tail on a hippo. It doesn't fit, right? Let's put it on an elephant. Scares the poor elephant half to death. All right, what's going on back there? Put it on something like a sauropod, dinosaur, a long-necked dinosaur, patasaurus, bronchosaurus, satanosaurus, whichever one you want. Seems to fit the description really, really well. And this leads us to a really important footnote, if I can do a play on words, and that's this. If you have a study Bible, praise God for that, but let's remember that the study notes are not the inspired Word of God. The text itself is the inspired Word of God. I've heard it put like this, you don't use your footnotes or your study notes to understand your Bible, you use your Bible to understand your footnotes. And another good way to put this is the best commentary on the Bible is always the what? The Bible itself, absolutely. You guys have been trained well. It goes on to verse 18. It says, Verse 19, he ranks first among the works of God. This is the biggest, most preeminent example of God's creative power for Job to see on land. And from all those things, Total description seems to fit something more like this. Maybe something like a bronchiosaurus. Notice the size, the preeminence of this creation. Notice the tail, how it sways back and forth like a tree in the wind, like a cedar tree. It's huge. And of course, I got this clip from what movie? How many of you have seen this movie? All right, you're still a bunch of heathens. Okay, I'm just... You like the squirrel from the Ice Age in Jurassic Park? Who's seen the other two as well? All three of them. Yeah. Who's excited about number four? It's coming out too. Yeah. By the way, a little side note. In the movies of the Jurassic Park series, watch very carefully. They're trying to convince you that dinosaurs evolved into birds. It's a subtle theme throughout all the movies. Just keep your eyes open for it as you go through. There's also another creature mentioned in Job. It's called Leviathan. Now this guy's really interesting because again God tells Job to look at Leviathan. So he is a real critter again. And he's given a fascinating description that Leviathan is powerful and aggressive. Don't mess with him and never forget it if you do. But then it says some really weird and neat stuff. It says, his sneezing throws out flashes of light. His breath sets coals ablaze and flames dart from his mouth. So now it's not just a dragon, but it's a fire-breathing dragon. People say, wait, come on, Brian, you guys in Ancestors believe in fire-breathing dragons? Well, before you discount that notion altogether, let's take a look at what God did with the little bombardier beetle. Known to scientists, it's the bombardier beetle. When threatened, it fires out a burning liquid at a temperature of over 200 degrees Fahrenheit, almost boiling point. It does it by pumping a liquid fuel into a reaction chamber where a catalyst ignites the mixture. The burning chemicals have nowhere to go but out and with a bang. So essentially this guy shoots out liquid fire out his bum, alright? I swear at the last church I was at, somebody yelled, I know somebody who does that too. And that's not what we're talking about. Okay. That's how I did it. Somebody yelled it out. I'm like, no, no, but liquefier out in his rear. It can kill other insects, small mammals, and is harmful to human skin. He can shoot up to 70 times in a row. Now, if God can do that with a little two-inch beetle, what can he do with a multi-ton beast, right? Or think about some of the other critters that God has made. We could be here all day and night for weeks talking about the critters God has made, but lightning bugs. Aren't they fun to play with, right? As a kid, catch them and all that kind of good stuff. Yeah. Do you realize that the chemical reaction that takes place to produce light is 100% efficient? No energy is lost in the process. Compare that to our lights, which lose about 90% of their energy in the form of heat. But God's design is just a little bit better than ours. How about that? Or things like the electrocute, animals that can produce electricity and change colors with other critters. I mean, who would ever thought that you could have something like that? And by the way, if you just found the fossil, of an electric eel. Would you know it produced electricity? Probably not. And besides all that, most animals produce methane, which is a flammable gas. All you need is a way to ignite it and you have a flamethrower. It's not that hard to explain. Lots of different possibilities there. So you have that. And then also the Bible mentions the flying reptiles, Isaiah 14, 29 and 30 verse 60, flying fiery serpents. So multiple different references to these kind of critters. And so people say, okay, well, that makes sense. You got dinosaurs, I get it, but they're in the Bible. Okay, but I got a question. What did they eat? That's a really good question. We kind of answered it already, but let's see if you've been paying attention. What did the original T-Rex eat with those big old six-inch serrated fangs? A, B, C, or D? Yell it out. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. Yell it out. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, or D. A, B, C, and again I'll say it again just in case somebody missed it this makes perfect biblical sense because the Bible is very clear that there was no death until after Adam's sin which means you cannot eat meat until after Adam's sin because when you eat meat you're eating an animal that is what? dead so it has to be after sin before sin everything was vegetarian because there was no death so originally the T-Rex like everything else was vegetarian And people say, wait a minute, you tell me the T-Rex has those big old teeth, ate things like fruits and vegetables, so forth and so on. Yeah, perfectly equipped to eat things like coconuts. Have you ever tried to bite into a coconut? That's a bad idea, right? Don't do that. You get a knife to get into a coconut. The T-Rex was just pre-equipped. That's all it was. Besides all that, if you find a fossil of a critter with big, long, sharp teeth, what is the only thing you know for sure about that critter? It's got big, long, sharp teeth. And guys, there are plenty of examples of critters today that have big, long, sharp teeth in a Genesis 3 fallen, messed up world that are primarily or only vegetarian. I'll give you just a couple of examples. This primate from South America, look at those teeth. You know he was picked on in high school. Look at that. He is vegetarian. Or look at this skull. This belongs to some sort of vicious meat eater. No, it belongs to a fruit bat. You get one guess as to what a fruit bat eats. If you get it wrong, I'm leaving, all right? Yeah, the fruit, of course. Or look at this skull. Look at those big old sharp teeth up front. He must be a vicious meat eater. No, that skull belongs to one of those guys. I love the subtle revelation that just kind of swoops over the crowd. I've just seen who the real heathens are, really. Okay, we'll clean it up a little bit. There we go. Lots of panda bears. Yeah, actually, most bears in general have teeth like lions and tigers, but they are primarily vegetarian. Or look at this skull. That belongs to a species still at stint, still alive today. Not that one in particular, but as other relatives are. Belongs to something known as the Chinese water deer, also called the vampire deer for obvious reasons, and they are vegetarian. We could be here all night going through stuff like this, but the point is, in the beginning, everything's vegetarian. You can hang out with a lion and a tiger and a bear, oh my, would not be a problem. Bring a T-Rex home as a pet, just be sure you got enough room, all right? It's gonna be an issue. Which would be, I'm not going to lie, that'd be awesome. I would love to do that. But that's not the way things are today, is it? Something has changed. What happened? sin. Sin changed everything. Often when Ken talks about this, he mentions this as maybe possibly the saddest day in the universe. Sin changes everything. You know, it's really interesting. If you look at Darwin's writings, and actually many of the complaints of many atheists today, they will say something like this, there's no way a good God made a world like this. red and tooth and claw, full of death and suffering. Darwin would say, there's no way a good God makes a world like this when my daughter dies at such a young age. And I deal with illnesses my entire life. No way God makes a world like this. And you know what? Ironically, they're right. Did God make a world like this? No. He made a perfect world. No death, no suffering, no curse, no disease, no thorns, a sign of the curse that Christ bore on His head on the cross for us. None of that originally. It was perfect. Who wrecked this world? We did in Adam. It was our sin that destroyed this world. And because of that sin, death and the curse entered this world. And we see the ramifications of that. And the whole of creation was affected by it. Romans 8, 22, the whole of creation groans in pain. And you know what? I mentioned this the other day, but I'm going to do it again just in case you weren't here. If you try to squeeze millions of years into the Bible, then you've got some really big problems. No matter how you do it, theistic evolution, the gap theory, day-age theory, a whole bunch of other ways, they all have one thing in common. They'll put millions of years of death and suffering before Adam. That means you've got death before sin. That leads to a whole bunch of theological problems because it means that God looked down on day six and called millions of years of death and suffering and diseases like cancer very good. that would not be a very good God. Much more important than this, than that, is this right here. If there's death before sin, then death is not the payment for sin. And if death is not the payment for sin, then Jesus' death does not cover our sin debt, and we're lost in our sins and bound for hell. And you just destroyed the whole foundation for the gospel. And that's why this stuff is so important. That's why we need to be prepared to give an answer where the world is attacking today. That's why we're passionate. So it's not until after Adam's sin that everything changed, that the diet for dinosaurs or sun dinosaurs changed, just like so many other animals. It's not until after the flood, as we mentioned the other day, that God told Noah, just as it gave you plants to eat, now you can eat everything. So, not only can you eat hot dogs, as we talked about the other day, but this is also why you can eat filet mignon wrapped in bacon. Can I get an amen, somebody? Alright? Praise God for that. It is okay. God said it's okay after the flood. Also, interestingly enough, after the flood, God told Noah something we need to realize. He said, I'm going to put the fear and dread of you into all the beasts of the earth. So before the flood, evidently they weren't scared of man. After the flood, animals are scared of man. Now, if an animal is scared of you, what do they do? One of two things. fight or flight, right? So keep that thought in mind when we come back to the question of what happened to the dinosaurs. Put it on the shelf, we'll come back and get it later on. So at this point, a lot of people say, okay, that makes sense, Brian, God made the dinosaurs, I see them in the Bible, so maybe they all lived, but then Adam sinned, bringing death and suffering, you know, all that kind of stuff, and dinosaurs became a problem, so maybe God just let all the dinosaurs die during the flood. But is that what the Bible says? Go to Genesis 7.15. Is this what it says? Pairs of all creatures that had the breath of life in them, except dinosaurs, came to Noah and entered the ark. Now again, that's in 2nd Heresies or maybe 3rd Opinions. It's not in your Bibles, okay? Pairs of all creatures with the breath of life in them came to Noah and entered the ark. Now last night we talked about the flood and we talked about the ark and we talked about how big the ark was. But was it big enough for dinosaurs? Let's talk about that. First of all, people say, there's no way Noah could get all those dinosaurs in there. There's thousands of dinosaurs. There are thousands of dinosaur names. But guys, just like there are many variations of the doll kind and many variations of the horse kind, you get the same thing with dinosaurs. There are many variations of the ceratopsia kind, the triceratops kind, but just the basic kind. There are many variations of the sauropod kind, but just the basic kind. Being really generous, there are only about 50 dinosaur kinds. Times two, that's only 100. not that many to put on the ark. People say, okay, there's not that many, but I mean, come on. Right? I mean, there's no way he's fitting those things in there. They're just too big. Well, that leads us to a very common misconception. Do you realize that the average size of a dinosaur was that of a sheep or a dog? Some were small as chickens. Yeah, if they were still around, we could have some good old KFD. Just saying. And of course, it would taste like what? Chicken, that's exactly right. It'd have to, yeah. Tastes like chicken. And as it turns out, we know that all dinosaurs started off small. So how do you know that? Well, because they hatched from eggs. And the biggest an egg can get, according to research, is about the size of a football. Because the bigger the egg gets, the thicker the shell's got to be to support its own weight. But you can't let the shell get too thick because then oxygen can't get through to keep the critter alive. So the max size for an egg is about that big. That means all your dinosaurs, whether you're talking about the Stegosaurus or the T-Rex or the Sauropod dinosaurs, they all started off fairly small, cute, and cuddly, at least when they hatched from their eggs initially. And that idea should not be that foreign to us. We see it still today. Crocodiles, for example, when they hatch from eggs, you can hold them in the palm of your hand. Give them a few years, and if you're not careful, they'll hold you in the bottom of their belly. All right? I'm not sure what that guy's doing. He's crazy. All right? But anyway, so they all started off small. And remember, God brought the animals to Noah. So I'm pretty sure God's got figured out which ones to bring, how big they need to be. But I'm going to assume that God brought young adults to Noah for multiple reasons. Young adults for multiple reasons. Number one, you bring young adults because they are smaller. just makes sense, right? Of all the big animals, elephants, giraffes, dinosaurs, young adults, just be sure you've got a pink one and a blue one. That's important later. All right? You bring youngins because they weigh less, they eat less, they sleep a lot more, they're a lot tougher, amen? Youngins can run around and fall down and bounce and get up and keep running. Adults fall down and break, right? And lay there for a while. And plus, youngins are gonna live longer once they get off the ark to reproduce more, and that's the whole reason you're taking the animals to begin with. So really, no problem getting all these animals onto the ark, especially if they take the young adults. And by the way, technically, the big ones would fit just fine, but there's no need to. Take young adults for multiple reasons. So we did these numbers last night. How many were there? The total? Probably around 2,000. Maybe worst case scenario, 4,000 total animals. We quadrupled that to 16,000 animals just to see if it was possible. And of course all those animals, which included dinosaurs by the way, only take up 47% of the Ark's capacity. No problem getting the animals and the dinosaurs onto the Ark. And then, of course, when they're on the ark, we talked about last night, the fountains of the great deep burst forth, cracking the crust of the earth, moving dramatically, causing earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic activity on a scale we just can't fathom. It'd be enough to destroy the world. And because of that flood, we find billions of dead things buried in rock layers, laid down by water all over the earth. Incredible confirmation of that biblical event. And so many people say, OK, well, if that's the case, and dinosaurs, many of them died around 4,400 years ago during the flood, the ones that went on the ark, shouldn't we expect to find some good forensic evidence of dinosaurs living not that long ago? And guys, we do. We find tons. I could literally be here for days giving you examples of this. I'll just give you a few. So, one example, over in North Shore, Alaska, we have found thousands of what we might call mostly unfossilized dinosaur bones. They have not turned to stone. They look and they feel like old cow bones. Actually, secular scientists walked by them for over 20 years because they thought there's nothing special about them because they just look like regular old bones. As these secularists admit, bones do not have to be turned into stone to be fossils, and most of the original bone is still present even in a dinosaur fossil. But it gets infinitely better than that. In many of these fossils, we have found this hundreds of times over, I believe now, we have found fresh tissue inside these bones that's still springy or stretchy. Like in this triceratops bone, supposedly 65 million years old, but there's still springy tissue inside with blood vessels and red blood cells. And guys, like I said the other night, these organic remnants should not last for hundreds, maybe thousands of years, but there's no way they should last for millions of years, yet there they are. We find these all over the place. Here's one from a duck-billed dinosaur bone, supposedly 78 million years old, but this tissue is still stretchy. Maybe some red blood cells inside. I showed you this one last night, the red blood cells inside a T. rex bone. Again, you got the tissue, the stretchiness, the vessels, the red blood cells, it's all there. Incredible confirmation that these things are just not that old. And we look at that sort of stuff and you think, man, that's a slam dunk, right? I mean, shouldn't that just convince the evolutionists that their time frame is way off and it proves the earth is thousands of years old, confirming the biblical worldview? Shouldn't that prove it to them? The answer is what? No. Why? Because this is a what? This is a worldview issue. Your worldview tells you how to interpret what you're looking at to make it fit your preconceived ideas. And a wonderful example of this is a clip I'm about to show from Mary Schweitzer, a very nice lady who discovered this particular sample. And she's approaching the evidence from an evolutionary worldview. And I want you to notice how her worldview tells her to interpret what she's looking at. And notice the conclusion she reaches towards the end of the clip. It's really, really interesting. We're not going to believe this, but when she picked up a small piece to stop the reaction by putting it in water, it stretched and it sprung and it moved all over the place. So we knew we had something pretty unusual. It appears to be soft tissue. When they look at neighboring parts of the bone, they're even more surprised. out popped the blood vessels. And they were pretty incredible. And I said, I don't believe it. That's not possible. We need to do it again and again. It's one of those just goose bump inducing scientific moments, that's all I can say. And they don't really happen very often. Blood vessels should not exist in fossilized bone. Many scientists believe organic molecules can't last more than a hundred thousand years. Yet Schweitzer's bone is 68 million years old. I think the presence of soft tissues and cells indicates there's a process going on that we didn't have a clue about. So I think it means that we have to kind of rethink the whole chemical process of making a bone turn into a fossil. Did you catch that? Don't rethink the age. Now, that's got to be said. Now, there must be some, now think about this, natural process that we have never, ever observed that's somehow making these things last for millions of years. Wrong assumptions, wrong conclusions. How fast was that calf going? I think the Bible offers a much better explanation for why we find this tissue. It's just because they're just not that old. They died during the global flood around 4,400 years ago. People say, okay, well, if that's the case, then shouldn't we find some legends? You know, dinosaurs got off the ark and they reproduced and they must have lived with man. So shouldn't we find some legends of dinosaurs living with man? And indeed we do. But remember the word dinosaur is a new word. It was not invented until 1841. It wasn't used until the early 1900s. There's another word in pretty much every single culture that in many cases appears to be clearly talking about and describing dinosaurs. And what is that word? Dragons. And the honest secularist knows this. Watch this clip from the Discovery Channel. There is one creature remembered in the legends of almost every human culture that's ever existed. A creature depicted with remarkable similarity by the Chinese, the Aztecs, even the Inuit, who live in a frozen land where no reptiles are found. Even they have stories of this animal, the dragon. cultures from different continents, people who had no contact with one another, yet all of them have stories describing the same mythical animal. Could it be these stories were more than myth? What if we discovered that this creature that haunts our imagination had once been real? And I'm going to tell you, this is a fun study to do. We, again, could be here all night giving examples of these dragon legends around the world. I'll give you a few of them. And we have some resources to get into that in more detail. But it is really, it's a lot of fun. Here's a couple of examples. St. George is said to have slayed a dragon around 275 AD. The description of the dragon that he killed fit that of a dinosaur known as Baryonyx. Just so happens in that same area, we find fossils of Baryonyx. Pretty cool. There's a city in France renamed after the dragon that was killed there. It was described as being bigger than an ox with long sharp pointed horns on its head. Marco Polo reported around 1271 AD that the emperor of China used dragons to pull his chariots in his parade. And by the way, if I was an emperor and dragons were around, they'd pull my chariots, too, because that's awesome, all right? That's just great. Well-known historians like Aristotle and Herodotus recorded that they saw flying reptiles, flying dragons. Herodotus said he went to go see these winged serpents as they were flying over for Egypt, and he saw them, and they were like water snakes. They were reptilian. And their wings, they weren't feathered. Their wings were membranous, like the wings of a bat. Or how about this, the Historia Animalia, a very well-known old secular science book, said that dragons were not extinct even in the 1500s. They were still around, but were relatively small and rare by that time. And then we see drawings on cave walls and pottery all over the world that seem to be depicting dinosaurs very clearly, many times man interacting with dinosaurs. I'll give you a few examples of that. Here's a piece of Egyptian pottery. It seems to show two long-necked dinosaurs. Here's a Roman mosaic from the 2nd century AD. Again, two long-necked dinosaurs. Go to England. Go over to Carlisle Cathedral. Visit the tomb of Bishop Bell. And around this tomb are brass strips with carvings of different animals. And some of those carvings of animals look like known types of dinosaurs. Or go to this temple over in Cambodia, built around 1,000 years ago. Zoom in on the column of this temple. You have what appears to be a very clear depiction of a stegosaurus, the dinosaur with the plates on its back. Hope you notice we're kind of going around the world here. Bring it back closer to home over in Colorado. Here's a petroglyph of what appears to be maybe a triceratops. Big body, three horns on the head. The secularist says, no, it's just a goat. The Indians are really bad artists. If you look above, the Indians know what a goat looks like. Okay, they're not confused. They got that covered. It gets a lot better than that, though. Go over to Utah. Here is a petroglyph of what clearly shows a long-necked dinosaur. The long tail, the four legs, the body, the long neck, and the head. It is very clear. This honest secularist says, yep, that's what it looks like. I don't know what to do with it. It doesn't fit my worldview, but it looks like a dinosaur. Just down the road from that, we have what appears to be a drawing of a pterodon of some sort with the wings and the bump on the head. and the feet, the way they are drawn in that particular picture. Here's another cave drawing, another long-necked dinosaur. It's very, very clear. Here's a drawing from the aboriginal people depicting a creature they call Yaru. And according to them, Yaru was a real critter who was a real problem for them. And in this picture, they're depicting the account where Yaru ate one of their friends. And they are trying to get their friend back, or get revenge, or something like that. And they show Yaru as a real critter. Looks like a plesiosaur of some sort. And guys, we could literally go on for hours and hours, maybe even days, with legends like this. And the honest secular scientist knows they've got to do something with these legends, because in many cases, they sound like dinosaurs. So what do you do with that? It doesn't fit the evolutionary worldview. Well, Carl Sagan. You ever heard of him? a very well-known evolutionist who has since passed away. He wrote a book called The Dragons of Eden. And in that book, he said, you know what, we got these dragon legends all around the world that sound a lot like dinosaurs. They do. So we've got to deal with this. How do we explain these legends from an evolutionary worldview? Because we know man didn't live with dinosaurs. That'd be silly. So how do we explain all these legends that appears to be describing dinosaurs and showing man living with dinosaurs? This was his theory. This is what he put in the book. He suggested that, since evolution was true, and we evolved somewhere along the line from dinosaurs, that maybe humans back in the past had a latent vestigial, that is, leftover memory of when they used to be dinosaurs. And sometimes, when they would go to sleep, they would have dreams of the old dinosaurian world. And they would see the dinosaurs, and they would see the landscape. Then they would wake up, and they would write about what they saw, or draw pictures about what they saw. I'm going to show you I'm not kidding. Here's a quote from his book. Wow. Wrong assumptions, wrong conclusions. Recognize he won the Pulitzer Prize for that book. I think the Bible offers a much better, much clearer explanation for the dinosaurs. People say, OK, that all makes sense. But Brian, that leads us to the big question, the one everybody wants to know. What happened to them? I'm going to tell you. You guys ready? It's about to get deep. They died. Like so many other animals, they've gone extinct. We'll get to more details here in a second, but it's interesting. The evolutionists has many different theories, over a hundred of them, as to why dinosaurs went extinct. Of course, the most popular one today is that they didn't go extinct. They just evolved into birds. And of course, that's implausible for numerous reasons. We talked about this this morning if you weren't here. But basically, if you're going to change a dinosaur into a bird, you need to add brand new genetic information over time. You need new information for new beaks, new eyes, new bone structure, new lungs, new heart, new feathers, new everything. That requires brand new specified genetic information over time. Natural selection and mutations mix up existing genetic information and typically lose it. They don't add brand new specified genetic information over time. That's implausible. Some will say, yeah, but maybe a meteorite or asteroid hit the earth and killed all the dinosaurs, big and small, but left everything else alive, which is a pretty neat trick, if you think about it. Some think they had indigestion. Maybe that's what killed them, which that can be bad. No one's down that, right? This is a real theory, this next one. I'm not making it up. Dinosaurs gassed themselves into extinction. Yes, they flagellated so much. It put so much methane into the atmosphere, caused a greenhouse effect, increased the temperature of the earth, and the dinosaurs could not stand the heat. I don't know what to do with that theory. I like it. Makes me laugh, right? if you'll indulge me, it does give new meaning to the phrase silent but deadly, alright? Other than that, I'm just, just like, you know. Something they overate, something the dinosaurs starved to death, something a catastrophe of some sort killed the dinosaurs. Maybe this is the real reason right here and that should be a lesson to us guys. Our life choices have consequences. If you look close at this picture. And then this is my favorite one. This next one is my favorite one. It's just my sense of humor. I don't know if it, you know, relates to you guys as well. I think it will. I think it has a lot of explanatory power. This is what may be happening to the dinosaurs right here. Chuck Norris hasn't been around for a long time, right? That seemed to make a lot of sense. Yeah. But no, I'm having a little fun, of course. But here's what's really interesting about all this. National Geographic said this a few years ago, and most secularists would agree with this, that over 90% of all organisms that have ever lived have gone extinct. And they're predicting by the year 2100, half of the existing organisms will also go extinct. You might say to yourself, man, that's a whole lot of extinction. And if you were to ask one of these experts, why are so many things dying? You'd probably get a response something like this. Well, isn't it obvious? Man's killing them. There's lack of food. Man's destroying the environment. We've got diseases, genetic problems, genetic bottleneck, catastrophes like floods. There's lots of reasons they're going extinct. Okay. If you ask the same experts, okay, well, then what happens to the dinosaurs? I don't know. That's a mystery. Can I suggest that dinosaurs probably went extinct for some of the very same reasons all these other animals go extinct? I'll give you two big problems they probably had after the flood. I'm sure there are others as well, but here are two big ones. First, climate change. Don't get scared. I'm talking about real climate change. I'm talking about God-induced climate change. Genesis 6, 13, I'm going to destroy both them and the Part of the purpose of the flood was to wreck this world. And again, after the flood, people used to live to be 900 years old. After the flood, just 400, then just 200, then just 100 years of age. Something changed after the flood. It's fair to say it wrecked this world. And of course, genetic bottleneck is probably a big part of that as well. Also after the flood, as we talked about last night, is the perfect time for an ice age, which would not be good for the dinosaurs more than likely as well. So that's another problem. Not only that, a bigger problem, probably this. people are going to hunt them. You say, people hunt dinosaurs? Absolutely, because remember, after the flood, God told Noah, I'm putting the fear and dread of you into all the animals of the earth, right? So, after the Tower of Babel, as populations start to increase and people spread out and live in different areas and animals increase in population, if you move to a new area with your family and a couple other families, and you run into a wild herd of chihuahuas, is that a problem? It might be annoying, but it's not dangerous, right? But let's say you move to a new area and there are a couple T-Rex's roaming around or an Allosaurus. Is that a problem? Absolutely. So fellas, what are we going to do? We're going to kill them. It's exactly what man does right now today. When you move into a new area, you kill the threat to protect your family. Because I don't know about you, but no critter is eating my wife or my son. I am not going to let that happen. You're going to kill the threat. And actually, you're going to kill dinosaurs for lots of reasons. It's a lot of meat. Be a lot of food. Because they're a menace to be the hero. To be superior. Competition for land. Just the same reasons that animals are going to stink today, like tigers over in China and Asia and so forth and so on. Same reason. And think about this also. Any hunters in the crowd? Anybody like to hunt? Guys, let's be honest. Who doesn't want a T-Rex head hanging on their wall? Right? I mean, come on. So that's going to be another reason you want to kill these things as well. Lots of reasons to understand why man would kill them. I'm sure there are other things as well for the dinosaurs. But here's the main point. When you start with God's Word, when you build your thinking from the Bible, dinosaurs are not a mystery. There really are great answers to all those questions when you stand confidently on God's Word. Isn't it exciting being a Christian? Isn't that awesome? Absolutely. And so we like to summarize dinosaurs and answers to Genesis with the seven F's. It's in the dinosaur book we have for sale. You can still back order that same price free shipping. We'll use the seven F's though. They were formed on day six. And they were initially fearless, no death, no suffering, but then they were fallen like the rest of creation after Adam's sin. And then during the flood, all the dinosaurs not on the ark, they perished like all the other critters. And then after the flood, they got off the ark, reproduced, but they faded over time due to the reasons we mentioned before and some other things as well. And the legend got passed down for one generation. And some of the legends got embellished, but they have a basis in truth. And then they were found again in the early 1800s. And since that point in time, there's been a whole lot of fiction as to where they came from and as where they went. And for me, us as a ministry, we like to think of dinosaurs as missionary lizards. You say, missionary lizards, why? Well, first of all, when you properly understand them, they confirm the history of God's Word. They show you you can trust God's Word when it talks about history. You can trust it when it talks about salvation. It connects to the real world. It has answers. You can trust it from cover to cover because it is the very Word of God. And the second reason they should remind us about evangelism and remind us that they are missionary lizards is that they should remind us of a very important point. They once were here, but now they are not. Now they are what? They are dead. And why are they dead? Three-letter word. Sin. You know, it's interesting. The Bible tells us very clearly that the wages of sin is death. If you're not a believer here, or if you are, think about this. The question is not why do some people die? The question is why do we all die? Why is there death in the world at all? And the Bible tells us the answer to that. Romans 6, 3, 23, for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. I don't know your hearts here today, but if you do not think you have fallen short of the glory of God, just do me a quick favor. Go to Exodus chapter 20, read the Ten Commandments, see if you've kept those perfectly, just on the outward appearance, right? None of us has, more than likely nobody's kept those perfectly, but then also know that God sees your heart, your thoughts, and your motives, and he judges those as well. And they must be perfect in order to get you into heaven. And I'm willing to bet nobody who was saying, once your heart or your thoughts or your motives put on the screen for everybody to see, because the heart is deceitful and wicked, we all fall short of God's glory. We all fall short. We are all sinners. And that is the horrific bad news. It is not. And by the way, where does sin come from? Where do we know it came from? Which book of the Bible? Genesis. So important. That is the bad news, but that's what makes the good news so good, amen? That while we are still sinners, Christ died for us. That if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, Lord Jesus, make Him your Lord, your King, your God. He's the boss, you're not. And believe in your heart that God was raised from the dead. You will be saved. And again, I don't know your hearts here today, but let me just say this. The difference, or one of the main differences between Christianity and every other religion-ism and schism out there is this. Every other worldview says you must save yourself. you have to do enough good works to earn your salvation. Even if you're an atheist, you do your good works to make yourself feel good. You save yourself by your works. Only Christianity says you cannot do anything to save yourself. Even your good works are as filthy rags. You are saved by grace alone, by faith alone, and Christ alone. It's only by His works that you can be saved. And if you put your faith in Him, the price He paid for you will cover your sin and death, and you gain eternity through that and that alone. And Christianity is unique in that aspect. No other religion has that sort of teaching. It's all based in Christ. And guys, that's the thing. When you start with God's Word, you can go from dinosaurs and end up with the gospel. Amen? Because that's what this is about. Giving an answer for the hope that you have, showing people that God's Word is true, so we can share the gospel with boldness. And that's what Apologetics really is all about. That's what we're all about as a ministry. And I know we're about out of resources, and I praise God for that. You guys have just bought everything up. If you want to back over anything, you can. You can back it up for the same deal, the YouTube special, the answers books for kids or teens, or the dinosaurs book that has ran out, books about dragons. We do have some of those left. And I'm going to tell you, those things are awesome. It's a pop-up pull-out. So this book talks about the dragon legends all around the world. And when you open it up, dragons pop out, OK? So we say it's for middle schoolers, but it's really for everybody. Because when a dragon pops out of the book, That's awesome, all right? And so that's what's happening in that book. For the younger kids, D is for dinosaur. A great rhyme book goes through that gives us biblical answers for dinosaurs in the gospel. This is one of our best-selling videos. I don't know if we still got any here. Dinosaurs, the Gospel in Genesis. It's Ken when he was younger with Buddy doing a video about dinosaurs. Again, the special still goes on. You can backorder anything. And if you're backordering some other books, all right, they're not here. They're sold out. If you're backordering other books, you can add the begin book still for $3 to that backorder, because we've got to ship it anyway. All right, so you can order BEGIN by itself, but if you're backordering other stuff, you can backorder BEGIN for three bucks. We'll ship that to you for free. And again, let me strongly encourage you to check out the magazine. It is a phenomenal resource to sign up for that. You've got a kids edition inside each one. And again, for each year you subscribe, you get a free DVD up to three. That's a really good deal. Also, as a side note. We have a curriculum that is phenomenal. It really is unbelievable. It's a Sunday school curriculum, but also easily converted to a homeschooling curriculum. It is kind of our biggest response to the Genesis 3 attack of our day. It's a three-year curriculum with a total of 156 lessons. And here's what it does. It does what I used to do as a biblical history teacher. It goes through the Bible chronologically. And guys, most people have never studied the Bible chronologically, and when you do, it is amazing. Because think about it, most of the time when you go to church growing up, you might go one Sunday and talk about Elijah. Next Sunday you might talk about, you know, 1 Corinthians. Next Sunday you're over here back in Genesis. Next Sunday in Revelation. So a lot of times we grow up and the Bible seems to be a jumbled mess of random stories, alright? But when you go through it chronologically, and you see the flow, and you see the cause and effect, and you know where everybody fits, and all the events fit, the Bible makes sense. It's like it's got an author who knows what he's talking about. Imagine that. And it all points to Jesus Christ, and that's what it's all about. And as it goes through that chronology, it's answering the skeptical questions of this age. It's connecting archaeology, showing God's Word is true from cover to cover. It is a powerful resource. I encourage you to check that out for homeschooling, for Sunday school, small group, whatever. It is a great resource. If you've got other questions, come see me about it. Again, you can follow me or any of the other speakers on Facebook and Twitter. We do blogs from current events and what's going on, all sorts of stuff. And then I want to end this session with a story. I know we're doing a Q&A after this, but I want to end this session with a story because I want to keep the main thing the main thing. This is a story about a captain who was just beloved by his sailors. They could never sing his praises enough. And one day, their ship came across another ship that had wrecked. And there were hundreds of people in the water. And the water was really cold. People were dying every moment. So the captain quickly gathered his men together and said, hey, guys, listen. People are dying every second. Do everything you can. Use every resource we have available to save as many as possible. And then his sailors just looked at him and said, Captain, you are amazing. And your love for those people and your leadership and your motivational speech, you are awesome. I'm so inspired right now. You are just the best captain in the world. We are so lucky to have you as our captain. And he said, I appreciate that, but right now I need you to obey my instructions and save as many as possible. But instead of listening to those instructions, they just ignored those and kept singing his praises. You know, as ludicrous as that idea sounds, how often do we do that very thing as Christians? And we sing God's praises as we should, but then we ignore His instructions and ignore a lost and dying world around us. Guys, let's be prepared and willing to love the lost, to preach the gospel, to give an answer for the hope that we have that God might use us to accomplish His will of drawing a lost and dying world to Himself. Amen? Let's thank you so much. We'll have a little break. I'll turn it over to Pastor Phil. We'll come back and do a Q&A. Pastor? Very good. Has this been fun or what?