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I brought my briefcase. Someone said on the way in, why
do pastors call it a briefcase? Well, it's cold. This is even
colder than Monday or Tuesday. But we made it through the week,
and we've had a good time together. And we're all sad that it has
to come to an end and that it has to pass so quickly. And the
week is such a great week, and you try to see everybody and
everything and do everything. But it only makes us want to
come back next year, doesn't it? And I want to say a special
thanks to Mark Hudson for his leadership. and also Joe Shepard
for leading us in our prayer times, which are special and
precious, and I think that we feel is perhaps the engine house
of the conference. It might interest you to know
I was in New Brunswick and I was the family conference there.
We had a couple sessions together and Pastor Tom Rush said, what's
the problem here? And we discussed it together
and he said, you know, I don't think that we're praying together. And so we started a prayer time
there too. I think that we put our finger
on it. It's been a great week. I've
really enjoyed the messages, and I think I started to trend
there when I said, I love you, Kay. I think that from now on,
other pastors will be saying, I love you, Kay. Well, I mean, whoever their wives
are. But it's been a great time. Now, this is a little hard this
morning because I'm surprised to see so many. Actually, I didn't
know that there was such interest in these historical things, and
I'm grateful for that. This is a little hard because
Ulrich Zwingli is a little hard, and what you receive this morning
is maybe not exactly what you expect. But we'll work it through,
and then with the question time, well, I think when I'm done I'll
be under fire here. I don't know how much you know
about Ulrich Zwingli, but I hope you know him a little better
when we're finished. Master Ulrich Zwingli died on
the battlefield of Kappel, October 9, 1531, in his 48th year. He expired still in the prime
of life, along with his brother-in-law, stepson, his son-in-law, and
his best friend, Leo Judd. Zwingli had led the Protestant
army against the Catholic force Cantons. And he exhorted his
ranks with these words, Brave men, fear not. Though we must
suffer, our cause is good. Commend your souls to God. He
will take care of us and ours. His will be done. The battle
ran against the Protestant armies, and Zwingli himself, staggered
by a rock, aimed at his head while he knelt to give one of
his soldiers aid. Rising to his feet, he was pierced
through with the lance, and he felt his lifeblood flow through
his fingers. Eyes uplifted to heaven, he spoke
his last words, What matters, this misfortune? They may kill
the body, but they cannot kill the soul. He lay a long time
propped up against a pear tree while Catholic soldiers pleaded
that he recant. Zwingli simply shook his head. The battle lost. The victors
took vengeance on their enemies, Captain Bockinger of Unterwalden,
recognized Zwingli by torchlight, and drawing his sword pierced
Zwingli through with these words, Die, you obstinate heretic. And
then, like Saul of old, the enemy took Zwingli, burned his body,
mingled the ashes with the ashes of swine, and cast the ashes
to the four winds. And thus died the one who was
called the third man of the Reformation. Now, who is Master Zwingli? Why should we, living some 400
years after his death, still take an interest in his life
work? Moreover, why should we, who
are Baptists, be interested in the enemy of our forefathers,
who persecuted them and had them put to death? What is the significance
of the life of Zwingli to the Reformation and the Church of
God as a whole and our Christian lives today, What is Zwingli's
Legacy? Ulrich Zwingli was born on January
1, 1484, some 510 years ago, in a lowly shepherd's cottage
at Waldhaus in the county of Togenburg. Zwingli was a German-Swiss
patriot who loved his country and its people. And while born
in a lowly cottage, his father was not a peasant. He was the
chief magistrate of his village, the village of Wild House, and
he sired seven sons and two daughters. Zwingli was the third son. His
parents were God-fearing and strong Catholics of the more
noble sort, so the history books report. Zwingli's mother was
a sister of the dean at Weston, and early in life, Zwingli was
inculcated with Catholic doctrine and Catholic faith. The Swiss
were freedom-loving people. It is interesting in history
to see how geography has played a part in the lives of a nation. But the grandeur of the mountains,
the blue lakes, and the sloping pastures gave them a sense of
being free men. Some of you may have traveled
to Switzerland and seen some of the glories of the Elves.
Their lifestyle was physical, it was wholesome, and because
of their refusal to be subdued, they formed themselves into a
fearsome fighting machine. Their soldiers were admired and
hired all over the world. In 1444, Louis, The 9th or the 11th of France
sought to conquer the mountain country with overwhelming arms,
but the Swiss fought so tenaciously, tearing the arrows out of their
bodies that they might fight on, that Louis' soldiers became
disheartened and melted away. Now the Republic of Switzerland
itself was founded by the eternal covenant of the three force cantons,
Uri, Schwarz, and Unterwalden. It grew from there by conquest,
purchase, and free association. At the time of Zwingli, it was
ruled by a single dyad, with each canton sending representatives. By the time of the Reformation,
Switzerland was made up of 13 cantons, Zurich joining in 1351. Switzerland was Christianized
as early as the 4th century, while still under Roman rule.
Geneva was the seat of one of the most ancient bishoprics in
Europe, and the north and interior of Switzerland was evangelized
in the 7th century by Irish missionaries, Columban and Gaullus. The latter
founded the Abbey of St. Gaul. In time, the whole of Switzerland
fell under the bishopric of Rome. The Swiss served the papacy well
over the years, often supplying the warlike popes with men-at-arms. I believe the Swiss still stand
guard in the Vatican. Zwingli was born seven weeks
after the great German reformer, Martin Luther, on January 1,
1484. The village of Wild House was
the highest village in the Alpine Valley, and from there Zwingli
might gaze upon the seven Cherfistan and the snow-capped Sintas. The
inhabitants of Wild House are described as a cheerful, energetic
people, traits found in Zwingli himself. The Reformation came
to the valley in the year 1523. Interestingly, Zwingli's public
life took place very close to his boyhood home, Glerus, Einzendelm,
and Zurich. His was a happy home with honest
virtue and hard work. He grew up believing and practicing,
as George Washington, that one should never tell a lie. Now,
young Zwingli was sent to his uncle in Weston for early schooling. the intent being that Zwingli
would one day render services to the Church as a priest or
theologian. When he was ten years old, he
took his first major step by entering the College of Basel,
where he excelled in Latin, grammar, and dialectics. The year 1492
saw Zwingli at the College of Bern, a student under the most
famous scholar in Switzerland at the time, Heinrich Wulfen,
or his Latin, Lupolus. who excelled in the classics,
Latin verse, and later supported the reformers themselves. Zwingli
was only 16 when he went to Venice to round off his training. He
studied at the University of Venice. He was a relatively young
man. He studied scholastics, philosophy,
astronomy, physics, and the ancient classics. In Vienna, he became
enthusiastic about the new learning, which emphasized the pagan philosophers
of Greek and Roman times, and of course, the Renaissance was
having its beginning. He also learned to play several
musical instruments, such as the lute, the harp, the violin,
the flute, the dulcimer, and hunting horn, with considerable
skill, we're told. You've seen those hunting horns
that go way out down there and then come out somewhere down
there? I've seen them yodeling there. Zwingli regarded music
as that which refreshed the mind and softened the temper. But
his Catholic opponents said of Zwingli that he was the evangelical
lute player, piper, and whistler. Zwingli was expelled from Vienna
for misconduct. And so he returned to Switzerland
and further studies at Basel. Here, Ulrich met his best friend
and future reformer, Leo Judd, who gave to the German Swiss
a Bible. He also acquired his Master of
Divinity. He never earned a doctor's degree,
and therefore was often referred to as Master Zwingli. It was
during this time that Zwingli was confronted with the current
breezes of Reformation blowing through the Church. He was much
taken by a certain Thomas Wittenbach, professor of theology, who opened
his eyes to the abuses in the Church, especially indulgences,
and urged his students to seek remission of sins through the
death of Christ alone, rejecting the keys of the Church for the
key of faith. Zwingli, upon graduation, was
ordained in the capital of the Canton Galeris, called Galeris. And here he would spend ten productive
years as pastor, preaching, teaching, visiting, and in systematic study
of the scriptures. He began to study the Greek language
in order to become proficient in New Testament studies, and
he was introduced to Erasmus by correspondence and was much
taken by the scholar and humanist, and later met Erasmus personally. He continued to study ancient
classical authors and committed to memory Galerius Maximus for historical
examples. I don't know who Galerius Maximus
is, but the idea of committing him to memory is a phenomenal
feat. And in God's Providence, he also
read Picasdell of Merondola and grasped the doctrines of predestination. Now, Zwingli never came to blows
with Erasmus, as did Luther, but they eventually drifted apart.
While Zwingli agreed with Erasmus concerning abuses in the church,
the necessity of the study of scriptures in the original languages,
and perhaps the first hint of a figurative interpretation of
the Lord's Supper, he disagreed with Erasmus' semi-aplagian approach
to man's fallen nature. Zwingli held with Luther that
man's will was in bondage to sin and Satan and had only one
freedom apart from the grace of God, and that was to sin and
to sin only. It was during his stay in Galerius
that Zwingli went forth as a chaplain on at least three occasions with
the Swiss mercenaries fighting in other countries. He saw the
storming of Pavia, in 1512, the victory at Novera in 1513, and
the defeat at Mareganio in 1515. He saw firsthand the bravery
of his Swiss countrymen, but also the demoralizing effect
of mercenary life, the suffering, and the shame. He returned to
his parish determined to bring to an end the selling of human
flesh for the god of war. Schaaf describes his tenures
at Galerius in these terms, Zwingli became one of the most prominent
and influential public men in Switzerland before he left Galerius,
but he was then a humanist and a patriot rather than a theologian
and religious teacher. He was zealous for intellectual
culture and political reform, but chose no special interest
in the spiritual welfare of the church. He did not pass through
the severe struggle and violent crises like Luther, but by diligently
seeking and searching, he attained to the knowledge of the truth.
His conversion was a gradual intellectual process rather than
a sudden breach with the world. But after he once had chosen
the scriptures for his guide, he easily shook off the traditions
of Rome, which never had a very strong hold upon him. That process
began at Galerius and was completed in Zurich. It may surprise us
to learn that at Galerius and a subsequent church at Einzadeln,
Zwingli was not celibate. Although celibacy was the official
stance of the church at the time, it was widely held to be a joke.
Priests lived with or consorted with women on a large scale,
resulting in a large population of illegitimate children. It
is written that celibacy made concubinage a common and pardonable
offense. The Bishop of Constance, Hugo
von Hohlenlandenburg, absolved guilty priests on the payment
of a fine of four guilders for every child born to them. And
he is said to have derived from this source 7,500 guilders in
a single year. Zwingli was, at that time, unconverted
and lived in the light of the cultural mores of the time. Celibacy,
being unnatural and unscriptural, put tremendous pressure on both
men and women of clerical orders. Zwingli later confessed his failure
at chastity, although his confession leaves somewhat to be desired,
stating, I never mated with a married woman, virgin or none, but the
daughter of a barber who had already been dishonored. In Zurich,
he met and married a widow, Anna Reinhardt, who brought to the
marriage a ready-made family. She had a number of children. He was faithful to his marriage
vows, although he lived with Anna two years before legitimizing
the union, because at that time they were not free to marry as
of yet. Zwingli's marriage to Anna was
not the passionate affair of Luther and his Katie. He addresses
her as his dearest home wife and useful helpmate. Nevertheless,
she made his life contented, filled with hospitality, and
his children were well raised. In Einstein Del, in 1516, Zwingli
was forced to leave Galerius due to the opposition of French
political intrigue as Zwingli continued to oppose mercenary
service. His next stop was Einsendaun
with the intent of going back to Galerius when things quieted
down. It is in the Catholic canton
of Schwaz. Here in the Benedictine convent
is to be found the famous black image of the Virgin Mary, where
pilgrims still flock to worship and seek healing. At Einsendaun,
Zwingli continued his studies, making good use of the library
at the convent. Zwingli now began a diligent
study of the Church Fathers, esteeming Jerome, Origen, and
Chrysostom more than Augustine, it was said. But it was also
here that Zwingli began to study the scriptures, and especially
Erasmus, who had given the Greek New Testament to the world in
1516. Zwingli wrote out the epistles of Paul in Hebrew in his own
handwriting that he might have a copy with him at all times.
In the meantime, just as with Luther, an indulgence seller
entered into the territory of Switzerland. His name was Samson,
and Zwingli rose to the occasion. Zwingli claimed to preach the
gospel in Switzerland before Luther's name was known in the
Alps. but he admitted later that his
teaching was too much based on the Fathers and not sufficiently
on Scripture. Nevertheless, Zwingli was an
attractive preacher, very able to gather a large hearing, with
a voice adequate and clear in thought. One witness said that
Zwingli preached to the people the purest philosophy of Christ
from the fountain. Yet Zwingli enjoyed the confidence
of the Catholic bishop and received a pension from the Pope. He was
still a humanist, leaning towards Erasmus, an advanced liberal
in the Church with no thought of separation from the Church.
But the time had come in the purposes of God for Zwingli to
play a greater role in the advancement of the Reformation. A pilgrim
to Einzendelm had heard Zwingli preach and recommended him to
the vacancy of Grossmunster, the chief church in Zurich. His
enemies derided Zwingli, as a music lover, given to pleasure if not
impurity. Nevertheless, he was elected
to the ministerial post with 17 votes out of 24. And it was here in Zurich that
the Swiss Reformation broke out. Zurich was one of the chief commercial
cities of its age. It was founded among the rolling
hills of the Lake Limmat. It was a German canton founded
by King Louis of Germany, who built an abbey called the Frau
Munster in 853 AD. At the time of Zwingli, it numbered
7,000 inhabitants. It was the center of international
activity for the Swiss cantons. It was here the nations of the
world had their embassies and sought to woo mercenaries with
fame and fortune. Bullinger, son-in-law of Zwingli,
said of Zürich, before the preaching of the Gospel, Zürich was in
Switzerland what Corinth was in Greece. Zwingli's impact upon
Zürich was electrifying. His first Sunday in the pulpit,
he abandoned the lectionaries and began an exposition of the
Gospel of Matthew, beginning with the genealogy of the Lord
Jesus Christ. By such means, his auditors were
given, for the first time, a complete picture of the life of Christ.
The way of salvation was clearly brought out. His approach was
manly, plain, practical, and impressive. He did not immediately
attack abuses, but rather the sins of men's hearts. He soon
gathered followers who said, such preaching was never heard
before. Tired of old wives' tales, myths
and fables, their thirsty hearts cried out, this is a genuine
preacher of the truth, a Moses who will deliver the people from
bondage. No portrait is available of Zwingli in his lifetime, but
he is described as a fine-looking man of middle size, with a florid
complexion and an agreeable and melodious voice, not strong,
but it reached the hearts. As a pastor, he was cheerful,
loving, kind, hospitable, and benevolent. He took special interest
in students and young men whom he taught and encouraged, soon
gathering some very youthful disciples. In his first year
at Zurich, Zwingli vacationed at the famous Baths of Pfaffers
and Regats. Here he learned of a pestilence
that was passing through Switzerland and heading toward Zurich. He
immediately shortened his vacation and returned to his congregation.
For several weeks he gave himself unstintingly to the point of
exhaustion as the pestilence ravaged the city. When it was
finished, twenty-five hundred or one-third of Zurich's population
had lost their lives. Zwingli was spared, but for some
time felt the strain of those weeks, yet he had endeared himself
to the citizens of his beloved city. Aubigné, Reformation historian,
dates Zwingli's conversion and consecration to God to his experience
during the plague. But unlike Luther or Paul, perhaps
even Calvin, we have no account of a sudden conversion, but a
gradual growth in the grace and knowledge of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Nevertheless, Zwingli's spiritual deepening can be traced to that
event and the impact it had upon his soul as he was faced with
the fragility of life. In those dark days, he wrote
the following hymn, My pains increased, haste to console,
For fear and woe seize body and soul. Lo, Satan strains to snatch
his prey, I feel his grasp, must I give way? Death is at hand,
my senses fail, My tongue is dumb, now Christ prevail. He harms me not, I fear no loss,
For here I lie beneath the cross. In the year 1522, Zwingli preached
a series of sermons in opposition to the forbidding of the use
of meat during Lent. At the time, his publishers were
working overtime on Protestant books and felt the strictures
debilitating. Zwingli subsequently published
his first book maintaining that the conscience is to be free
in matters of secondary importance. The Bishop of Constance challenged
the pastor of Grossmunster and appealed to the Council of 200
and the Swiss Diet. The Council had already warned
priests to preach the gospel and forego sermons on things
that pertained to human invention. The support of the Council then
became instrumental in the advancing of the Reformation, and it also
became a snare for Zwingli, whose reliance on the Council soon
became all too apparent. For two years, Zwingli had little
opposition in Zurich. He had a honeymoon. But the question
of Meats brought opposition and even threats of assassination.
Nevertheless, Zwingli held his ground. His book Architales,
The Beginning and the End, because he hoped his first answer would
be the last, aroused opposition from none other than his old
friend Erasmus. the striking feature of the book
being its strong insistence of the authority of the scripture
over the authority of the church. Zwingli wrote, What agrees therewith,
to that I hold fast. What conflicts therewith, I shall
reject, notwithstanding all the hubbub that is made by those
who may feel themselves aggrieved by this maxim. Zwingli now became bolder in
his denunciation of medieval church teaching. He spoke out
against celibacy, images, purgatory, and even the mass. His boldness
required the great council to gather a number of the learned
for a disputation of Zwingli's views. 600 delegates gathered
at the town hall where Zwingli, six years after Luther's 95 theses,
presented the Reformed Church's first confession called the 67
Conclusion. solidly reformed, they reject
the primacy of the Pope, the Mass, the invitation of saints,
human merit, fast pilgrimages as unscriptural commands of men.
The articles are full of Christ, presenting Jesus as the sole
mediator between man and God. Salvation by faith alone in the
finished work of Christ, Christ the only head of the Church,
that men are bound to no works except those commanded by Christ,
magistrates are to be obeyed so long as they do not contradict
Christ, and all spiritual leaders are to repent and preach Christ
only, or perish. The Bishop of Constance sent
his delegate, and others came from the cantons of Switzerland,
but Zwingli clearly won the day and changes came swiftly. With
the approval of the Great Council, priests and nuns were allowed
to marry, convents were emptied, baptism administered in the tongues
of the people, mass and images despised. Riots were fomented
by angry citizens who became iconoclasts. Further disputations
were held, and this time, before lay and clergy alike, the Romanists
were badly represented and could not withstand the demand for
reform. On Pentecost, June 20, 1524, imagine this, the reforms
were enacted before magistrates and the heads of the Church.
Accompanied by architects, masons, carpenters, the churches of the
city were purged of pictures, relics, crucifixes, altars, candles,
and all ornaments, the frescoes effaced and the walls whitewashed,
so that nothing remained but the bare building to be filled
with a worshipping congregation. The pictures were broken and
burnt, the bones of saints were buried, even the organs were
removed, and the Latin singing of the choir abolished, but fortunately
replaced by congregational singing of psalms and hymns in the vernacular. Bullinger writes, within thirteen
days all the churches of the city were cleared. Costly works
of painting and sculpture, especially the beautiful table in the water
church, were destroyed. The superstitious lamented, but
the true believer rejoiced in it as a great and joyous worship
of God." Here's where we launch out here. While we sometimes lose sight
of what the Reformers accomplished, If you think of it in these terms,
look at Zwingli's approach to the Mass. Recall that the Mass
is celebrated for over 800 years. It's central to the Roman faith,
the Roman church faith. It's celebrated weekly, if not
daily. Christ is sacrificed on the Roman
altar. Now, in place of that, Zwingli
managed to abolish the Mass in favor of the scriptural Lord's
Supper, celebrated not daily, not weekly, but four times a
year. Further, Zwingli moved from a sacramental understanding
of the Lord's Supper, where grace is bestowed to a simple ordinance
of remembrance of Jesus' once-for-all sacrifice on the cross for those
who believe in his name. So in three or four short years,
Zwingli had done that remarkable deed of
overthrowing the mass. It was his understanding of the
memorial nature of the Lord's Supper, and this is one of his
contributions, of course, to the church, that led to the eventual
split between the Reformers and the Lucerans. Under pressure
by Catholic princes, the Protestant leaders sought unity between
the German and Swiss Reformers. At the Marburg Conference in
1529, Zwingli and Luther sat down to iron out any differences. They agreed on every article
but the 15th. Luther claimed the bread and
the wine were the actual flesh and blood of Jesus. Did not Jesus
say, this is my flesh given for you? Zwingli replied that the
verses were to be understood figuratively. Jesus said he was
a door, but not a door literally understood. Luther pounded the
table and petulantly replied, you do not have the same spirit
as us. And the meeting broke without
agreement. Zwingli's next contribution to
the Reformed cause was baptism. Not simply the forbidding of
exorcism at baptism, or having it spoke in the vernacular, in
the tongue of the people, but Zwingli toyed for a bit with
the idea of abandoning baptism of infants altogether. Some of
the younger and more noble men of Zurich had begun to question
the place of infant baptism in the church. They too had studied
the scriptures and were an equal match with Zwingli in that regard. When the controversy broke out,
Zwingli wrote to a friend. The former controversy with the
Romanists is mere child's play to this. Why? Because the Anabaptists,
as they would one day be known, and as Zwingli well knew, stood
where he stood on the word of God, and were as proficient as
Zwingli in the scriptures of God. In 1525, Zwingli was faced
with a new challenge from a different quarter then. In the eyes of
the radical reformers, as they are known in history, Zwingli's
reforms were too gradual and not sufficiently thorough for
their taste. The controversy would swirl around
the ordinance of baptism, but its roots were more radical than
either the mode or the meaning of baptism. Zwingli at one point
seemed willing to abandon infant baptism, stating in one sermon,
Nothing grieves me more than I am at present obliged to baptize
children, for I know it ought not to be done. Certainly the
Radical Reformers thought Zwingli was in their camp. At the disputation
in the Grossmunster of 1525, Felix Mons, later an Anabaptist,
speaking before the Great Council said, I am sure Master Zwingli
understands this matter of baptism the same way I do, knows it even
better perhaps, but for a reason that I do not know, he does not
reveal his views. Now the question arises, of course,
in the controversy, why did Zwingli change his views? Why did he
stop at the threshold of a radical reformation? Why did he cling to infant baptism
when he knew it was unsupported in the New Testament, or at least
at one point in time felt it was unsupported? And I just throw
in here, it's very interesting in reading to find that Busser
and Bollinger and even Luther at one point questioned baptism. And why did Zwingli become a
fanatical anabaptist? So we can call him an anti-Baptist
filled with an unholy hatred for his former compatriots, co-reformers,
and disciples of himself. And this leads to a greater question.
Why was Zwingli so successful in his reforms in Zurich in such
a short period of time? We've already seen how in such
a short period of time he overthrew centuries of ingrained dogma,
the mass being but one example. Well, our problem is that we
think Zwingli and the other Reformers simply got into the pulpit, Bible
in hand, preached in such a manner as to win their populace to the
way of thinking. And in part, that is and may
be true. But coinciding with this is the
truth that the Reformers were heirs to an underground church
whose presence was reaching a crescendo of demand for a church more in
line with scriptural teaching. Now this was a church within
the official church of the Holy Roman Empire. They paid minimum
dues to the official religion of the empire, that is Christendom,
but secretly advanced the faith once for all delivered to the
saints. These views now began to surface in men like Huss and
strong leaders like Zwingli and Luther and later Calvin. Their
doctrines are the basic beliefs of evangelical churches today.
And when the Reformation began, this underground church saw an
opportunity to advance the cause of Christ more perfectly. And
they looked to Reformers like Swingly with expectation, but
were eventually disappointed as they were in Luther. Now,
we have to keep in mind that church history just doesn't fall
out in chunks, but it rolls out, as it were, with one event awaiting
another event and depending on another event. Because at the
ascension of Constantine as emperor, Christianity began to enjoy a
favored status in the empire. And this was buttressed by the
dubious arguments of none other than Augustine, who was wholly
persuaded that Constantine had bestowed a great blessing upon
the Church. The official religion of the
Empire was to be Christianity, and everyone in the Empire was
regarded to be Christians, or soon forced to be so. The sign
and seal of one's membership was baptism in infancy, thus
entitling you to all the privileges of the Empire as well as the
Church. Certainly, from the beginning
of the establishing of Christianity as the state religion, voices
protested and continued to protest. The Donatists, for example, opposed
the corpus christenium, or christenedom, for the corpus Christi, body
of Christ. They said only those who had
been born again and show forth the fruits of the Spirit are
the legitimate members of the body of Christ. This protest
was ridiculed by Augustine, saying that the Donatists were insignificant
and must conform to the new state of things. Augustine advocated
the use of the sword to invoke conformity upon pagan and his
fellow believers alike. Nestorius, the church historian,
wrote concerning Augustine, while personally philanthropic, His
theory of one monolithic, unanimous society contained the germs of
spiritual despotism, of intolerance and persecution. For one thousand
years, the protest of the Donatist was carried on, sometimes publicly,
more often than not, secretly. And now, in 1525, a very common
event took place that was to change history. Conrad Grebel,
A nobleman's son had a son whom he refused to christen in Zurich. Grebel was a scholar whose father
sat on the great council. The magistrates were scandalized
and wished to prosecute, but first they had to appeal to the
church for a decision whether this was heresy or no. On January
17, 1523, the good burghers were invited to the town hall for
a disputation between Zwingli and what would later be known
as the Anabaptists, although no one had been baptized in that
fashion as of yet. Zwingli knew what the magistrates
expected of him. He also knew that to side with
the Radical Reformers was career suicide as well as life-threatening,
and he temporized. In all likelihood, he hoped that
in time infant baptism would fall as had the Mass. Whatever,
the Council acted immediately upon the decision that all parents
who refused to baptize their children or christen them after
the custom of the centuries must themselves be brought under prosecution
and persecution. The Radical Reformers were determined
And Zwingli in turn hardened his position. And those who were
former friends were now disliked strongly by Zwingli. He consented
to their death, and their manner of death, and even their torture. Now why? It is always hard to
judge the motives, but in all likelihood Zwingli knew he was
wrong, but Zwingli also knew he didn't want to pay the price.
I quote a historian, there must have been something rankling
in Zwingli's bosom, some deep-seated grudge against his erstwhile
friends and associates. How otherwise to explain his
deep hatred for them, a hatred that made him speak of and deal with the Anabaptists
as though they were veritable demons. Though on the previous
page he had a long list of un-evangelized pagans in heaven. Now Zwingli
believed that un-evangelized pagans who lived rightly would
go to heaven. It was Zwingli who suggested
that the heretics be baptized a third time by drowning and
pursued a policy that speaks of a guilty conscience. It's
interesting that before that, why did they put them on the
stake? The reason that they put them to the stake and fired them
is because they were to gather the tares and cast them into
the fire. But of course, with the idea
of baptism, then the idea of drowning. As he beat a retreat,
as it were, on the political front, he also beat a retreat
on the theological front. He acknowledged And this is another
contribution that Zwingli made, which those in the Reformed faith
perhaps will appreciate, and those of us who are Baptists
perhaps struggle with. He acknowledged that the Fathers
had erred concerning baptism by making it a sacrament, and
therefore he disagreed with Luther. Luther said that baptism had
come through the church untainted, untouched. Can you imagine? Every
other doctrine is tainted except baptism. But Zwingli said the
infant is not brought to the font to be made a Christian because
there are no magical powers in the waters themselves, but he
said they come because they are already in the Christian church.
They are part of the covenant that God made with Abraham and
passed from generation to generation. The only difference between the
sign in the Old and the New is that the Old, the sign is circumcision,
while in the New it is baptism. And Zwingli's argument was much
loved by other magisterial reformers, as they're called, that is, those
who depended on the magistrates for reforms, because it allowed
them to maintain the evangelical truths of salvation by grace
through faith alone, while satisfying the magistrates as to a homogeneous
and undivided society. The idea of some people living
apart in a pluralistic society was simply unacceptable to the
medieval mind. Zwingli did not take into account
the differences between the Old and New Testament in my estimation.
That the New not only fulfills the Old, but, according to Hebrews,
makes it obsolete. A New Covenant takes its place
that no longer says, Know the Lord, but every member will know
the Lord. That circumcision was a sign
and seal of Abraham's faith in God is true. but only a sign
and seal of Abraham's faith in God. For Abraham's circumcision,
in a sense, does reflect New Testament baptism. But for his
descendants, circumcision inducted them into the physical blessings
of Abraham while being a constant reminder in the flesh that they
must exhibit the faith of Abraham if they were to be heirs of the
spiritual blessings. Further, it seems clear that
circumcision is filled in the New Covenant by regeneration. Baptism, then, is applied to
those, and only those, who have been so circumcised, i.e. regenerated. The fact is, Wingly
was once again defending the old Corpus Christianum. Zurich
was the nation of Israel revived, and the idea of a composite society
made up of defined believers and unbelievers was simply unacceptable. True biblical baptism, by the
way, draws the operborium of the world for this very reason,
I suspect. It separates and culls out of
people who claim a distinct and higher and heavenly citizenship.
Beasley Murray points out that true baptism often draws the
ire of outsiders. For example, in India, amongst
Hindus, christening draws no response. But when believers'
baptism is practiced, the crowds hiss. If society applauds, And
it is probably because christening is wrong if it hisses, it is
because believers' baptism deeply offends. This led Zwingli into
fatal error. Having failed morally to stand
against the magistrates, even though he claimed that the magistrates
go through, go contrary to Christ, dare to be opposed, he sought
to justify his position theologically. And he gave a brilliant argument,
and a brilliant argument it is, and we give him that much. Having
sought to justify infant baptism, he now saw the need to meet the
challenge of the radical reformers on another ground, concerning
the purity of the churches. Like Luther, Zwingli taught a
people's church. All were members of the church
who had been baptized and given the sign, but only God knew who
were the true believers. The sign of membership being
baptism just as circumcision was applied to all males in Israel
as the sign of their membership in the Israelite nation. To aim
for a pure church based upon regenerate members was hypocritical,
they said, and pharisaical. In order to enforce conformity,
both Luther and Zwingli appealed to the magistrates as had the
Roman harlot before them. As Verduin points out, when Luther
went magisterial, he made it impossible for himself to preserve
the New Testament emphasis on fruits bespeaking and interchange. The Anabaptists protested, saying,
These two, Luther and Zwingli, have exposed all the knavery
and tricks of the papal harlot, much as if they were out to smash
it with thunderbolts. But they have attached themselves
to the worldly powers, having put their confidence in the help
of man, and it has gone with them as with a man who, as he
patches an old kettle, only makes the hole bigger. They have raised
up a people utterly callous in sin. And the Anabaptist was never
tired of saying, whenever government and church are together, as in
Bern, there cannot be the true church. And the reformers knew
this too, and for a while they tried the termination of christening.
But when the regnum, that is the magistrates, entered the
picture and bared its teeth, the price went up and swingly
back down. I give you the instance of Michael
Slatter, a fine Christian man and an Anabaptist who was condemned
to death because he protested the Corpus Christianum in favor
of the Corpus Christi, the body of Christ. He was taken to the
city center, his tongue was cut out, he was tied to a wagon,
and with red hot tongs they tore his flesh to shreds five times
until he reached the stake and he burned to death as an arch
heretic. And this brave woman, Katerina
Zell, who was a wife of one of the magisterial reformers, said
to a room full of preachers, perhaps, she said, they separate
from the church because of you. He who commits a crime the magistrate
should punish, but his business is not to coerce and play the
boss in matters of faith, as you seem to think. This belongs
to the heart and to the conscience. Balthasar Hubmeier gives a different
account as to how the Reformation looked to the Anabaptists. Yes,
he said, the old saying is being fulfilled. It goes from bad to
worse. Things are not getting better,
but worse. This punch in the jaw we have to endure from the
side of the worldly ones, meaning the worldly ones in the church.
God have mercy on us, for we have to endure this because we
keep excusing ourselves For everybody nowadays wants to be a good Christian
and soundly evangelical by taking a wife, eating meat on Lent,
no longer bringing sacrifices, never fasting, never praying,
but all we see is boozing, gourmandizing, blasphemy, usury, lying, cheating,
swindling, violating, dispossessing, forcing, flirting, loafing, harlotry,
fire-setting, gambling, dancing, raping, garrotting, and murder.
Oh, the pain of it. All this transpires under the
cover of the Gospel. And when you say to that kind
of evangelical, it is written, brother, cease from evil and
do good, they shoot back at you. It is impossible for us to do
good. All things are included in the decrees of God and therefore
unavoidable. They think by that device everything
is permissible. And if you continue, it is written
that he who does evil shall go into the fire and not be quenched.
Into the fire that is not quenched. They quickly find an apron-fig
of leaves with which to cover their blasphemy as they say,
it is written that faith alone saves us, not works. With that kind of subtlety, they
manage to be and remain soundly evangelical. This is a protest
to the Anabaptists. It wasn't simply baptism. It
was simply the purity of the Church. What is the Church? And
what is the Church to be made of? And if you think it's Anabaptist
trumpery, then listen to Luther. This is a little hard, by the
way. I was glad to hear your zeal for Christian discipline,
but in this sad time, I dare not introduce such a thing. But
the Anabaptists were, and it cost them their lives. Besides,
he went on in a very unpleasant fashion. You know you have to
let a peasant do his bit of boozing, and a drunken guy will wet a
haycock down. Luther hung back, but the Anabaptists
did not. And in a few short years, they
established an underground church of phenomenal success. One Baptist
pastor baptizing Poland over 6,000 converts in six months. So successful, in fact, that
the rival church under the Reformers were forced to double the police
force to try in vain to stop the flood now let loose. As for
Zwingli, he was fully committed to the use of the sword against
his former companions in Christ. The consequences had far-reaching
results. One of the earliest martyrs was
Felix Mons, who had gone to the dispensation and tried to persuade
Zwingli in the Council of 200, condemned for being involved
in rebaptism and having confessed that he wanted to gather only
those who confessed Christ and followed him, and to separate
themselves from the state church. Such doctrine being harmful to
the united usage, it was said of him of all Christendom and
against sound government, man's was placed in a rowboat with
his wrists firmly tied together and passed over his cock-knees. A heavy piece of wood thrust
between his bent knees and elbows, he was rode out into the Limmat
River, thrown overboard, and drowned. And that was the beginning
of many such like martyrs. I write to show this because,
as Joe Vandenberg said, we write concerning these men in history
that we might rejoice in the great things that they did, but
we might also escape from the mistakes that they followed. Zwingli was not guiltless. He wavered at the very point
which Scripture demands, a church free from state authority, in
which Jesus Christ alone is head. A church, as Baptists at least,
we believe, made up of regenerated members only, and the sign being
Believers' Baptism. And his wavering cost his life
nonetheless, for it was inevitable that the two Christendoms, Rome
and the Reformed, would clash, but they would be in the same
bed when it came to the Anabaptists. Both appealed to the sword and
to the magistrate to protect the one true church. And in the
Battle of Capelle, the Protestants had won victory over the Catholic
countenance, and the terms of peace ensued. But Zwingli was
anxious for a full military victory, because he realized that the
Protestants would only get weaker and the Catholics stronger. But
the Bernese, his allies, insisted on terms of peace. But when the
Catholics again broke the treaty sanctions, or the treaty sanctions
were imposed, And the Catholics, now desperate and having nothing
to lose, marched to war with 7,000 strong to 1,500 Protestants. Zwingli, seeing what was forthcoming
before the war started, sought to resign, but the magistrates
he had relied on refused to accept his resignation. On October 9,
1535, the Protestant forces were defeated, and as Verdun describes
it, His body was slain on the field, his hands still clutching
in death the musket he had shouldered in the service of this new hybrid.
This was a truly horrible way for a career that had held such
great promise at the outset to end. But the pit which Swingly
had dug he fell into. He had taught that the regnum,
the magistrates, of the Protestant cantons had the duty to suppress
by forms of arm, if need be, every religion but the right
one. Meanwhile, other men of the class were teaching the regnum
of the Catholic cantons the same wisdom. In his last agonizing
days, Zwingli said, a chain has been forged, and it is all but
complete, one that will cut off the head of many a devout Zuricher. A little later, the hybrid held
in its grisly maw the body of Ulrich Zwingli. Now, just some
lessons in conclusion. What is Zwingli's legacy to the
church? I would suggest two things. Zwingli's
legacy to the church was certainly in the area of infant baptism.
He rescued it, and he rescued it by the argument I was saying
that New Testament baptism is the fulfillment of Old Testament
circumcision. And just as Abraham and his children
were all to be circumcised, so the believer and all their children
were to be baptized. And it's an argument that's powerful.
It's an argument I'm sure here some this morning would want
to defend. But it was Zwingli's argument. And while it has been
advanced, It was Zwingli who first proposed it and proposed
it soundly. It was Zwingli also who gave
to us the understanding of the Lord's Supper, especially for
Baptists in figurative terms, and went further than some in
the Reformed faith when he demanded that it be remembered or practiced
as a memorial. And we see the blood of Jesus
as figurative as we see the bread as figurative of the body of
the Lord Jesus Christ, reminding us of the once for all sacrifice
on the cross. But Zungle was a man, after all,
and he had the failures of a man, a brilliant man and a scholar.
Yet he wavered, I believe, my thesis is right, when he ought
to have trusted. His reliance on the state, I
believe, set back the Reformation at least 300 years and it stained
the Reformed churches with the blood of good and innocent people
for at least 200 years after that. It forged a church state
that would eventually undermine the doctrine of the formers and
would be a breeding ground of rationalism centuries later.
His reliance on the sword is contrary to the true teachings
of Jesus for his church. It is a reminder in our day and
age that the church is not to rely on the state nor appeal
to the state to assist in the advancement of the concerns of
the church. Our weapons are not carnal but
spiritual, Paul says, and how long will it take the church
to learn that? In the face of the renewed attempt to establish
a theocracy after old Israel in America, we must strongly
resist. We, especially as Baptists, have
a deep stake in this. Theonomy is the old Church-Constantinian
hybrid that has been the death of the Church for centuries.
And I believe that God punished Wingly for the ruthlessness which
he pursued and sought to destroy his former companions in the
faith and lovers of Christ. that Zwingli was a Christian,
no one will deny, but we see what sometimes happens to us
if we imbibe the wisdom of the world rather than the true wisdom
of Christ. I am thankful to the Reformers
and Zwingli for their penetrating insights into the doctrines of
grace and salvation by faith alone, but insofar as their understanding
of the New Testament Church is concerned, they were sadly misinformed. They did not make a complete
break with Roman Catholic baptism, for Luther calling it the only
doctrine that came down through the centuries untouched, and
they did not allow the headship of Christ to be preeminent, and
they did not seek the necessary separation of church and state,
and they failed to insist upon a distinction between the company
of the redeemed and the worldling in their midst. Amen. Now, I just might add, boy, that
had to be boring. I almost fell asleep reading
it. But I think we'll have questions. Don't you? Well, someone's got
their hand up already. Not yet. Time out. I have to take a Coke. The question for the tape. Is it true that Is it true that the Anabaptists
opposed the doctrines of grace? That the Radical Reformation
jeopardized the success of the proper Reformation? And that all damnable heresies
from the 16th and 17th century can be traced back to the Radical
Reformation? And is there any proof in the
public writings of Zwingli that to substantiate the claims that
he was a closet or secret anabaptist? Mr. Robinson? Well, I commend you, you picked
up the paper very well. I'll start with the last one
first. There's no proof in his writings that he was a closet
Anabaptist. But, nevertheless, the Anabaptists
felt betrayed by Zwingli, and they felt betrayed by Zwingli
because time and time again they insisted that Zwingli had changed
his mind. and that they had every reason
to believe at one point in time that they would be supported
by him. Now there is a quote from one
of his sermons saying that he regrets having to baptize infants
but of course again that's not written and so you could say
maybe that's hearsay but certainly his opponents felt that at one
time Zwingli was in their camp and they felt also that the same
of Luther that he would continue the Reformation rather than halting
it. So you can defend Zwingli on
those grounds. You can say he never did change
his mind. But I believe he did. And I believe
that the Anabaptists weren't lying when they were in disputation
with them. And Felix Mance wasn't lying when he said, Zwingli knows
this, and he knows it better than I. And I don't understand
why he won't reveal it. And I believe Zwingli wouldn't
reveal it because he knew exactly what would happen when the magistrates said otherwise. I think, what
was the other question now? Yes, that's right. Well, the
Anabaptists are not a homogeneous group. And there are three types
of Anabaptists. There are the evangelical Anabaptists,
and then there are the Anabaptists who receive revelation through
the Spirit and through the Bible out. But you have to keep in mind
that many people were, if you didn't belong to the Catholic
Church or the Reformed Church, you were just lumped as an Anabaptist. The name Anabaptist covers a
lot of group of people that shouldn't be there at all. The main body of Anabaptists
coming from the Waldensians, because I believe there was an
underground church fomenting reformation, and that these reformers,
the reason that they were so successful in part And the reason
that they advanced so quickly at that time is not that the
Reformation started in 1517 with Martin Luther, but the Reformation
was already boiling and percolating underneath, and Luther was the
one through whom it suddenly burst forth. The Waldensians
and others were teaching true evangelical doctrine within Christendom
at the time. I don't believe the Anabaptists
are the source of all heresy. I think that's quite wrong. If
you read their confessions, you see that many of the things they
believed, fought for, and taught were soundly based on scripture,
which we believe and practice today. Did Anabaptists believe
the doctrines of grace? Not likely. Some did, of course,
but I think in part because of what I mentioned in the paper,
the doctrines of grace were sometimes used as a cover for sin. And
we can't help ourselves because God destined everything so we
can practice our wickedness and they sought hard for a purity
of church. But I say, in defense of the
Anabaptists, that we have to be careful, because their enemies
had the press. They had the power. The Anabaptists
didn't have the press. They didn't have the power. They
often didn't have time to write theological works, because they
were hunted and persecuted. And anybody that differed from
the two churches was linked as an Anabaptist. And many times,
it was quite unfair, because the Anabaptists didn't hold those
views at all. There was another question there?
Or was that answered those questions? They're well put, I appreciate
it. Yes, that's an interesting question
because it's probably at the very heart of the paper because
that's exactly what Zwingli would have felt. They asked him in the disputation,
they said, Zwingli, if the magistrates go contrary to the scriptures,
you would oppose it. He said, that's right. That was
fundamental doctrine with him. But the fact is, he didn't. Did they undermine the true reformation? Well, one has to assume that
Luther and Zwingli and Calvin were giving us the true reformation,
and my contention is they were giving us a new hybrid, more
closely linked to the New Testament, and more closely in line with
the New Testament, but it still was not the complete reformation.
It didn't separate church and state. It continued to use the
magistrates as a sword to wield against those who opposed them.
And it's only in our centuries, after centuries of bitter religious
strife, that Reformed churches have come to the place where
they see themselves as separate from the state as well. As interesting
as that happens, the so-called sign of the covenant, baptism,
weakens, always. Because the sign of the covenant
is always connected with the nation as a whole. The sign being
applied to everybody. Everybody considered Christian
within the nation. So my answer to that was that
when those Anabaptists had the same choice as Wingly, but the
difference was they said, we'll give our life. for this, for
a pure church. And that's exactly what they
did. They knew exactly what would happen to them. I don't think they jeopardized
the Reformation at all. I think that they finally, as
a matter of fact, I think in God's time, they finally won
out. Question over here. We'll get
to you, George. You have to keep in mind, of
course, that, or at least I think you have to keep one thing in
mind. Why were they so opposed to the magistrate? And I think
that it's maybe a lesson for all of us this morning is that
we are creatures often not of action, but reaction. Faced with
persecution and faced with, in many instances, a hostile magistrate,
the reaction was that all magistrates are the devil and one ought not
to be involved in politics. But they certainly had a view
which reveals itself in Hutterite communities,
Mennonite communities, who we come right out of the world.
We're a community unto ourselves. We don't have intercourse or
communion with the world. And that was certainly a legacy
that they left to the world. And you may be quite correct
that it wasn't a biblical legacy in that regard. And I agree with
you. I'm not so sure we want to trace
Baptist roots back to Anabaptists, but certainly many of the things
they taught, the supremacy of the scripture, the importance
of separation of church and state, Jesus being the head of the church,
the purity of the church, are things we want to defend today.
And of course, in Reformed churches, they want to defend the same
thing, obviously, today. the purity of the church. The
problem with Zwingli is he had a real problem because what would
happen is if the princes said, okay, this canton will be Protestant,
well, boom, everybody in the place had to be Protestant. And
you had to conform, period. No questions asked. That legacy lingered in the church
for a long time and does in some churches today, Greek Orthodox
and others. The question is, are there any
Mennonite groups today that believe in some form of baptism? I assume that they baptize believers. Maybe I assume too much, I don't
know. Someone knows here about Mennonites. They do all three. The interesting
thing about Mennonites, though, is they do the very thing that
they complained against. Isn't that interesting in history? You see, they complained that
you can't force religion on the conscience, so they form a community
purely of Mennonites, and woe betide a Mennonite boy or girl
who doesn't go along with the conscience of the community.
They find themselves outside the community. You see, I remember
Dr. Masters saying, we have to give
our children, we have to give people the right to say no. Because if you place your child
in a situation where he must be a Christian, or your community
places children where they must be a Christian, you've got a
real problem. And the Mennonites ended up where?
where they didn't want to end up in one of the ironies of history. You can't force Christianity
on the conscience. It's the weapons of grace. First part of the question, I
believe, was in what ways was Wingly hobbled by Right, by the edict laid forth
by the magistrates. Right, that Zwingli was to reform
the church based solely on the word of God. Well, he certainly hobbled when
it came to the subject of baptism. As soon as the disputation took
place, it was a court that was packed in favor of the continuation
of infant baptism for the sake of the homogeneous community. Many of those who were leaning
towards believer's baptism didn't even want to participate in the
disputation because they knew that the question had already
been decided by the magistrates. So there was a constant interference
in the church by the magistrates, and Zwingli knew this as well,
and even when he attempted to resign, they rejected his resignation
and so he followed through with the battle at Capelle. When we talk about Romans 13,
I think the problem here is, that's what I was thinking when
you were saying, I think the problem is we don't make a distinction
between preserving grace and saving grace. In the Old Testament,
you have a community where there's preserving grace and also saving
grace. But in the New Testament, people,
you have saving grace. The magistrates, in Paul's idea,
are preserving grace. They preserve order. They punish
the wicked. But they don't advance the kingdom
of God. In the Old Testament, of course, the theocracy of the
people is all one thing. And therefore, there's a preserving
grace going on there in the Old Testament. And the sword is used
to enforce conformity. But even in the Old Testament,
God starts to make a distinction between the Saul who is king
and the Saul who sacrifices on the altar. And he begins the distinction
in a society. that God's purposes may be different
than the state itself. But I believe that Zwingli was
hobbled, and he felt hobbled. But I also believe that Zwingli
knew that his pension was with the magistrates, and I also believe
that Zwingli, although I don't account him as a coward, he was
not that, I believe that he knew the cost. I mentioned the one
fellow there because that's exactly what happened. The Anabaptists
knew that they'd have to pay the price. But I should add, that may be
a little harsh, because when you try to judge a motive of
man, that's difficult. What was his motive? If it is
true that at one time he even advanced the argument that maybe
infant baptism wasn't right, why did he change his mind? Well,
you might say it was purely scriptural, and that's a possibility. That
has to be fought on scriptural grounds. So I want to be fair
to Swingly because I'm going to meet him someday and he'll
say, hey, I heard you. Now Nestorius, well, it's the
old tale, isn't it, that bad men can speak good things. And
even a heretic can tell the truth. The fact is, he doesn't lie about
Augustine. Augustine wrote things against
the Donatists that were simply wicked. And his attack on the
Donatists, I believe, was an attack upon what was probably
the cream of the church at the time. And it was Augustine that
set up the whole idea of church and state working together to
employ and advance the kingdom of Christ. And I believe Nestorius
is right that he laid the groundwork for men who came later to use
the sword and ultimately the apex which is called the Inquisition.
We'll do that next year. Well, there were charges against
Zwingli. Is there any evidence of Zwingli
in his life being charged in a negative way with being a Whitlipite? I'm not aware of it, but I am
aware of the fact that he was charged with Waldensian Hussite thoughts,
and the reformers constantly tried to stay away from that.
They constantly denied that what they were teaching was linked
with this, not because what Huss and Wycliffe weren't teaching
was right. but simply because they realized that names, after
a while, have a certain operborium about them. Fundamentalism is a good name,
but because of what has happened in fundamentalism, if you call
someone a fundamentalist today, we sort of shy away and say,
well, I'd prefer if you said I was an evangelical or reformed
evangelical. Because names in history gather
certain, and that's what happened to Huss, even though Luther was
amazed when he sat down to take a look at Huss that he was teaching
the same thing. Why? Because they're coming from the
same source, the word of God. And my contention is, the opening
of my eyes in part to this, is we think the reformers come along,
stood in the pulpit, and everybody was saved, and they went out
and they reformed society, and they reformed economy, and on.
on and on. As a matter of fact, there was
a whole underground, I believe, going on within the church that
was pressuring and demanding reform, and ideas were circulating,
and some of these ideas had already to do with the mass, questions
of image, questions of pilgrimage. These were the ideas in the mind
of these people, and when a man like Zwingli, who had a powerful
preaching voice and the ability to gather people, got in the
pulpit, he found a ready reception. He found men and women who said,
my heart's so hungry and thirsty, we're hearing the Word of God.
No longer fables, no longer wise tales, no longer myths. And I
believe that that's what made it possible in two or three years
time. Imagine to change the whole mass, sweep the altar out, sweep
the mass out, and have the Lord's Supper four times a year. Why
did they have it four times a year? Because they were tired of having
it every week and every day. I don't know, you know, why four
times a year? No, I'm not aware of any association
with Wycliffe, but I am aware that Zwingli was charged with
bringing up these areas of the Waldensians and the other areas,
ideas that were floating about. Yeah. Perhaps one more question. I'll go to a home church man
there, George. Interesting, because there's
a human tendency that runs against the scriptures all the time.
And I think Verduin's got it right when he talks about a sacral
society. A sacral society is a society
in which there's a homogeneous society in which everybody believes
the same thing, worships at the same altar, and follows through
the same rites. And Christianity has fought the
sacral society since its birth, when Jesus was crucified. For
people not familiar with sacral society, just let me say, if
you're an Apache, you were born with your religion. You had an
Apache religion, and you did the same rites, and it was the
priest who had the insight and the mystery, and he was the one
that had control and authority in the society. And it's interesting,
in Apache society, you weren't interested in evangelizing anybody
else outside of your society. And you weren't interested in
evangelizing anybody in your society because you're all the
same. Now in our society today, we have a sacral society. But
it's not the religion of Christianity, but it's the religion of the
secular man. So what our secular society does is that all you
children and all you adults will conform to this idea that all
religions are the same. And you'll conform to this idea
that we will tolerate all religions and ideas except opposition to
secularism. And that's where Christianity
makes its thrust again. And Christianity demands the
sovereign rights of Jesus Christ. Its rights to evangelize in that
society and outside of that society. And so the two beasts that you
get in Revelation are very interesting because they are politics on
the one hand, the government on one hand, and false religion
on the other, and they support each other to keep that homogeneous
society and to keep out the people of Jesus Christ. But there the
suffering begins economically and sometimes physically. And
I think that according to my paper, and I'm not a historian by any stretch
of the imagination, but you had a sacral society, and the Magisterial
Reformers said, you will conform, just like the Romans said you'll
conform, and the Baptists said, we have to, Anabaptists said,
we have to remain pure to Christ. What happened to the Catholics?
Did they have to move away? Over to you. The pressure would begin to build
up upon them. They would be denied priests,
they would be denied their worship, they would be denied perhaps
economic opportunity.
Ulrich Zwingli - Swiss Reformer
Series CCFC 1994
| Sermon ID | 21409113706 |
| Duration | 1:21:47 |
| Date | |
| Category | Camp Meeting |
| Language | English |
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