verse 12 tonight, or chapter 12 tonight, but verse 18 says, And the nations were angry, and the wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants, the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great, and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. Now a few things, obviously in context there, that's pushing you way out to Revelation chapter 20 after the millennium. That's what we call the Great White Throne Judgment. And then I want to just, we'll talk about that once we get to Revelation 20 in a lot more detail. But then you'll see there it says, shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. Now, that is not a green initiative, okay? The destruction of the earth is not talking about the destruction of the old ozone layer. It's not talking about being green. That doesn't destroy the earth. Sin destroys the earth. That's what it is. And so it's talking about Republicans and Democrats, amen? It's talking about the kings and queens of the earth. Sinful rulers destroy the earth. That's what it's really talking about. You got a man sitting there and he says, I want more land. He goes and kills and takes the land. You look at communism, the way that thing works and the way they take everything for themselves. That's sin. That's the destruction here. You don't need to worry about the ozone layer. The Lord will fix all that when he comes back. Amen. It's not going to matter. You know what man just doesn't like? They don't like the idea of how puny they are. They don't like the idea of how small they are. They like to pretend they're bigger than they are. And you're not big enough to destroy the earth. I'm telling you, you're not. You're not big enough to destroy it with your carbon emissions and your carbon footprint. We're not big enough. The earth's not gonna be destroyed by it. You're not gonna mess it up. Don't worry about that stuff. And when the world gets all bent out of shape and you see all of Hollywood agreeing on something, they're wrong. They got that thing backwards. The Lord's gonna take care of it. He's gonna destroy it on his own, okay? Heaven and earth's gonna fade away and the Lord's gonna take it all and put a new earth and figure all that stuff out later. And you don't have to worry about that thing. But man likes to think they're bigger than they are. We actually have more strength than we do. We don't. And the pollutants that are going out there, all the chemicals in the factories, the air, it washes it up. It's not a problem. And the same thing. I mean, the rain washes all that stuff away, and they spill millions of gallons of oil in the ocean. The ocean eats it up. I'm not saying it's the best thing for the fish, but they're doing fine. There's plenty of fish in the sea, as the old saying goes, and you don't have to worry about that stuff. You're not going to hurt it. What really destroys the earth is sin. Alright, now look at verse 19. It says, And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament. And there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail. Now that's the last mention of the Ark in the Bible. The Ark of the Covenant. It's important to note where it is. It's in the temple, and that temple's in heaven, it's not on earth. So what does Hollywood do? They go looking for it. I was just listening to a couple guys just a couple days ago, and they're talking about, well, I wonder if we can find it. They're not even saved. They're not even saved guys. I wonder if we can find it. Now, if you go to, there's a fairy tale called Third Maccabees, that's what it is, it's a fairy tale, and in the fairy tale, Jeremiah takes the ark and brings it to England, and he hides the ark in a cave. Okay, that's a fairy tale, it's not in England hidden there. According to the passage here, it's up in heaven. Now, let me show you, look at, I wasn't going to show you, but I think I will, look at 2 Kings chapter 25, 2 Kings 25, you have the Jewish temple being destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar in 586 B.C. 2 Kings 25. Nebuchadnezzar comes in 586 B.C. and you have an account here. 2 Kings 25. Yeah, I didn't write even down the verses, so I'll have to kind of scan here. 2 Kings 25 verse 4, actually verse 1, It came to pass in the ninth year of his reign, in the tenth month, in the tenth day of the month, that Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon, came, he and all his hosts, against Jerusalem, and pitched against it, and they built forts against it round about, and the city was besieged under the eleventh year of king Zedekiah, And on the ninth day of the fourth month, the famine prevailed in the city, and there was no bread for the people of the land. And the city was broken up, and all the men of war fled by night by the wall of the gate between two walls." So the city's getting destroyed, the army of the Chaldeans come in there. Let's just skip down, I think about verse... 13 ought to do. It says in the pillars of brass that were in the house of the Lord. Now that's the temple. That's where the Ark of the Covenant was. You can go... Oh man, where was that? There's a passage that talks about it. I can't remember, I was looking at it and I can't remember now where it talks about it being, oh, it's when it's Solomon. When Solomon built the temple, they bring the ark in there, that's where it was supposed to be. It says that we're in the house of the Lord and the bases and the brazen sea that was in the house of the Lord did the Chaldeans break in pieces and carried the brass of them to Babylon. Okay, so you're about to get a detailed description of what's taken from the temple. Verse 14, and the pots, and the shovels, and the snuffers, and the spoons. It sounds like a... Okay, it doesn't matter. I'm thinking of Dr. Seuss. The snuffers, okay. And all the vessels of brass, wherewith they ministered, took they away. And the firepans, and the bowls, and such things as were of gold, in gold, and of silver, in silver, the captain of the guard took away. The two pillars, one sea, and the bases which Solomon had made for the house of the Lord. The brass of all these vessels was without weight, and the thing goes, and you get the whole thing. and the Ark's gone. It's not mentioned here. You're given the most, I mean, down to the most minute details of Nebuchadnezzar getting his hands on everything and he does not get his hands on the Ark, it's gone. And Harrison Ford doesn't get it either, and he doesn't touch it. I know, I know. But the Ark, listen to me, the Ark represents the presence of God. It wasn't there anymore. That city had gone to hell. That's why the Lord's allowing Nebuchadnezzar to come in there and destroy the place. They were living like the devil. So the thing's gone. And it looks like, what it looks like to me is that it's up in heaven. I believe it's up there right now. And maybe not, but that's what I think, is the Lord takes that thing. The last time it appears is in Revelation 19, and it says it's in the temple of God. Where's that? Look at Revelation 14. Where's the temple of God? Well, it's not physically over in Jerusalem right now. So if it's not physically in the temple of God... At that time, the temple was down on earth. Solomon built that temple, and the ark was there. Well, that's destroyed, and the ark's gone, so the Lord has it in the temple up in heaven. Look at Revelation 14, 17. That's what I think. Revelation 14, 17 says, and another angel came out of the temple, which is in heaven. Look at chapter 15, verse 5. It says, And after that I looked, and behold, the temple of the tabernacle of the testimony in heaven was opened. Chapter 16, verse 17. It says, And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air, and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven from the throne, saying, It is done. So that's where that thing is. That's what it looks like to me as it's up in heaven. Back to Revelation 11. And verse 19, we read it, there at the end says there were lightnings and voices and thunderings and an earthquake and great hail. Now that brings us to the end of the second account of the tribulation. And chapter 12 is going to start the third of the count of the tribulation. Now we don't have to turn there, but in chapter 6 you say it very similarly, talking about lightnings and thunderings and it sounds very similar, it talks about the hail falling and all that. You'll find that in a few places in Revelation. We don't need to look at them. So, in chapter 11, you saw the second account of the ending with the seventh trumpet sounding and Jesus coming back. He returns at the end of each account. And then chapter 12 kicks off the third account. And there's four. I know we've taught that. So you've got the third account going on here. And this account is going to focus on the Jews during the Tribulation. You're going to see that specifically chapter 12. And listen, chapter 12, that's the number of the Jews. So the Jews show up and there's a lot of emphasis on the Jews and then the nation. And then what you're going to find is it's really going to focus in hard on the three and a half year ministry of the Antichrist when we get to chapter 13. Alright, let's look at Revelation 12, look at verse 1. The Bible says, And there appeared a great wonder in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars. Now there's a woman here. Now this is obviously not a literal thing. This is one of those passages in Scripture that you can tell by context and what's going on. This isn't literal. some kind of a vision or something like that. John's getting a picture of something here. The Roman Catholics teach that that's Mary, and it's not. The Protestant scholars teach that the woman there is the church, and that's wrong as well. And I'm gonna show it to you, and we're gonna go through a bunch of stuff here, but this woman, this vision is a picture of the nation of Israel. It's Israel. Now, the Roman Catholic depiction of Mary, you'll find them, and I've seen them. You'll see a statue there, and it's Mary, and she's got her feet on the moon, and a lot of times around that moon is a snake, and you've got Mary, the mother. Now, listen. I just, we just came through Christmas time and I talked about Mary. I always talk extremely highly of the woman. She was a great woman. She was not a savior. And you know what they have? They've got a, they've got a statue there and she's standing there and she's standing on a moon and she's got her foot on the head of the snake and she's holding a baby Jesus. That's weird. Jesus Christ is a man. He's a lion according to scripture. He's a king of kings. He's a warrior. But she's holding a little baby and she's got her foot on the head of the snake? No. No, Jesus Christ is going to stamp out that serpent. Not her, but the Roman Catholic. That's weird. They've got it off. But that's what you have is that Roman Catholic system is a very matriarchal society. And what they've done is they've elevated Mary. Listen to me. They've elevated her higher than she should be. She should be elevated. She was a great woman. But she was flesh. But they call her the Queen of Heaven. That's a problem. Do you know what the Queen of Heaven is in Scripture? Look at Jeremiah chapter 43. I always say this, I always preface this when I start talking about Roman Catholicism, is I have a problem with the system and not the people. I have Roman Catholic family, I have Roman Catholic friends, this is not a diss on the people, I'm thankful for them, but the system itself is corrupt, it's got problems. And the problems I have with them are in the Bible, they're biblical problems. Now that's a common phrase, they call her the mother of the creator. The mother of grace. No, that's not Bible. She was the mother of the man, Jesus Christ, but she was not the mother of God. God was way before her, but you know what? One of the names they call her is the Queen of Heaven. Do you know what that is in Scripture? Jeremiah 44 verse 17 says, But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the Queen of Heaven. That's a false goddess, is what it is. It's a demonic spirit called the Queen of Heaven. Now, later on, they started attributing that title to Mary. She's not the Queen of Heaven. She's the mother of a man. And she did a good job, and I'm thankful for her, but that's all she was. She was a saved woman, that's all. This Queen of Heaven is a false goddess, and they're worshiping her. Now, let me give you a few things here to think about. Back in 1854, you have Pope Pius IV, He made an edict and said that Mary was immaculately conceived and not that Jesus was immaculately conceived. If you ever hear the Roman Catholic Church teaching on the immaculate conception, they're not talking about Christ. They're talking about Mary. That she was sinless and immaculately conceived. And then that same Pope made an edict that if you didn't believe it, you were damned. Now that's wild, man. If you don't believe that she's sinless and that she herself had an immaculate conception, that Pope in 1854 damned each and every one of you to hell. I don't have a problem with it. Jesus already saved me. His damnation can't do anything to my soul. But he puts a curse and damnation on all of you that don't believe it. And he also damned some of his own saints prior to him saying that, because some of his own monks and own friars, they fought with each other over whether Mary was sinless or not. Catholics, they argued before 1854. Some believed she was sinless, some believed that she wasn't sinless. And then that Pope damned his own people. Well, if you don't believe it, you're damned to hell. And that's a mess is what it is. It's not Bible. It's not scripture at all. That Pope comes along and says, you have to believe it or you're under threat of damnation. Now listen, I'll say this. One of the greatest blessings in life that you can get is if that guy puts a curse on you. Did you know that? If that guy has got a curse on you, you're probably doing good. What you got to be careful of is making sure that his blessings don't come on you. You see, if you have the damning hand of the Pope over you, you're doing all right. But if you get under his blessing like John F. Kennedy did, God bless you, my son. What happened to him? Now, here's a couple for you to consider. Here's a couple things here. Here's Pope Pius IV. He gave his blessing to the king of the two Sicilies, and in less than a year, the king lost his crown and his kingdom under the blessing of the Pope. That same Pope sent his blessings to the Austrian Kaiser and in less than a year he lost Venetia and suffered defeat. That same Pope sent his blessing to Queen Isabella of Spain and in a short time she lost her crown and died in exile under the blessing of the Pope. He sent his blessing to the Empress of France and in less than a year the Emperor and Empress lost their crowns and both died in exile and then their only son was killed by Zulus in Africa. Sound like a blessing or a curse? I'm sure it's coincidence. I'm sure. The crown princess of Brazil was blessed by the Pope and with the result that she found out later that her recently or soon after that her baby was deformed and she died in exile. The Pope blessed the emperor of Mexico, Maximilian. Soon after he was dethroned and killed by his own people. The Pope blessed, have you ever read the Bible when God puts a blessing on somebody, they win. They get victories and they live longer. The Pope blessed the Emperor's widow. She became a hopeless maniac and died in exile. The Pope blessed a steamer filled with nuns en route to South Africa in 1870. It was lost at sea and they all died. Every soul perished. The Pope blessed General Bullanger and in less than two weeks he was in exile and later committed suicide. In 1895, the Archbishop of Damascus gave the Pope's blessing to the Spanish troops, and with the results becoming Spain lost both fleets and two armies. In 1897, the Pope blessed the bazaar in Paris. Within five minutes of the blessing, it was in flames and nearly 150 people perished, including the sister of the Empress of Austria. Five minutes? God bless you guys. I need to go check and see if the Pope blessed Hollywood this past week because that might have been it. Oh, he did get the Medal of Freedom, didn't he? Anyway, I'm sure it's coincidence. I got a few here. 1912, the Pope blessed the Titanic right before its maiden voyage. It's only voyage is what it should say. In 1928, the Pope blessed the Italian airship and gave a cross to place on the North Pole. The airship foundered and broke in two, half its crew being lost while its general was severely injured and was later censored by an Italian committee. It was the greatest fiasco of the time. After Mussolini had murdered the people of such and such and sacked their country, the Pope blessed the Italians as a great and good people. Mussolini came to an inglorious end and was hung upside down and his body mutilated. And then, of course, July 2, 1963, President Kennedy of the USA received and was blessed by Pope Paul V or VI. He was assassinated, murdered in Texas November of that same year. So listen, I didn't read half of them. I just don't have time. On and on it goes. So if he puts his hand over and says, you're damned, You're good. You're going the right direction. Throughout history, the Popes damned people and it probably meant they were Bible believers as a general rule. And he damns everybody in this room that believes a King James Bible. That's a good position to be in. Alright, that was free. The Roman Catholic Church, they say this woman is Mary. And according to them, this is, listen, listen, this is very important doctrine. You ready? I've given you history. Now listen, I'm going to try to give you a little doctrine. What they believe is that when Mary died, her body went up, straight up into heaven because she was sinless. That was the immaculate conception that was pushed on us in 1854. But in 1950, another Pope, Pius XII, listen, this is so important, he said that Mary was bodily assumed and that you had to believe it or you were damned. You know what that means? Meaning her body is literally raptured and literally resurrected into heaven when she died because she was sinless. Hey buddy, if she was sinless, why did she die? The Bible says the wages of sin is death. She was sinless, she shouldn't have died. You say, well Christ died, he was sinless. Yeah, but that's because of my sin. The wages of my sin was his death. Do you believe Mary died for your sins? No, no way. That would be blasphemy. Watch. Look at Romans 5. If she was sinless, she wouldn't have had to die. You die because of sin. If you were sinless, you wouldn't die. She didn't die for your sins. Romans 5.12. Romans 5, 12, wherefore, as by one man sent into the world in death by sin, and so death passed upon all men for that all have sinned, verse 17, for if by one man's offense death reigned by one. Listen man, you're condemned because of Adam's sin, not Eve's sin. By one man. So I need a man to save me, not a woman. I don't need a mediatrix, I need a mediator. For if by one man's offense death reigned by one, much more they which receive abundance of grace and the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one." Who? Mary? No. Jesus Christ. It's because of Him. He was sinless. Alright, Revelation 12. Revelation 12, 2. And she being with child, cried, travailing in birth, and pain to be delivered." Now, what you'll have is the Roman Catholic Church there, they'll teach that that woman is Mary, and they do that because of verse 2. She being with child, she's travailing in birth, pain to be delivered. Look at verse 5. It says, And she brought forth a man-child, who was to rule all nations, with a rod of iron. And her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. So they'll say that that's Mary, because that looks like Jesus Christ going there. But what you're going to see as we go through here, that it can't be her, because she doesn't fit everything. Israel will fit all of it. The nation of Israel will. What I just read to you is the only thing that matches in the whole account, but Israel will fit everything. You know why? Jesus Christ was born of the Jews. Jesus Christ was the Lion of the tribe of Judah. Mary won't match everything in the passage. Look at verse 6. And the woman, let's just read Mary. And Mary fled into the wilderness, where Mary hath place prepared of God, that they should feed Mary there a thousand two hundred and threescore days. That doesn't make any sense. Are you telling me that Mary's coming back for the tribulation? That she's going to be miraculously fed? Why? Isn't she a goddess? Can't she feed herself? What's going on there? See how it can't fit? Verse 5, I can see why someone could say verse 5 fit, but verse 6, it doesn't fit at all. Now the Protestants are just as bad. They say the woman's the church. That's the Protestants. They'll say it's the church. Well, and if you get a brider, they'll tell you that this is the Baptist church. It's so stupid. Here's the problem with it, you ready? The church is never called a woman. If you cross-reference it with 2 Corinthians 11, she's called a chaste virgin. You say, well that is a woman, yeah, but that's not the wording. She's a chaste virgin, a spouse to Christ, and then later, look at Revelation 19 over here, it doesn't call her a woman either. She becomes the bride in Revelation 19, but she's not called a woman here either. What is she called? Revelation 19, 7. Let us be glad and rejoice and give honor to him for the marriage of the Lamb has come and his wife hath made herself ready. She's never called a woman, but Israel is. I can show it to you. We'll get some of that scripture later. She's called that. But this is the church right after the judgment seat of Christ. She's made ready. She marries Jesus Christ. So I believe the Catholics and the Protestants are both wrong on this. I believe that it's Israel. Now, the reason that I believe that, I'm going to show you. I'm going to compare Scripture with Scripture. That's where we're going to find it. Now, what I believe in Revelation 12.1, let's just read it again to give you the picture. Revelation 12.1. And there appeared a great wonder in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve sars." Now, the woman collectively is going to be the twelve tribes that make up the nation of Israel. Now notice, pay attention to how this is set up here. There's a woman, what does she have? She's clothed with the sun. and under her feet the moon, and upon her head a crown. She's got twelve stars. Twelve. The number of Israel. The twelve tribes. Look at Genesis chapter 37. This is your best cross-reference to prove that it's Israel. Specifically, the children of Israel. Genesis 37 verse 9. And what you have is, here's the story of Joseph. He's the dreamer. And who's he the son of? He's the son of Jacob, whose name is Israel. And he's got brothers. And they make up the 12 tribes. They're the children of Israel. Genesis 37 verse 9. And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it to his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more. And behold, the sun, and the moon, and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. And he told it to his father and to his brethren. His father rebuked him and said unto him, What is this dream that thou hast dreamed? Shall I and thy mother and thy brethren indeed come to bow down ourselves to thee, to the earth? What you have is a picture. So back in Revelation 12, you've got the crown of the 12 stars. Those are the 12 tribes of Israel, corporately, as a nation. And it represents Israel as a woman. Look at Revelation 12 and go back and look at verse 2. Revelation 12 verse 2, And she, being with child, cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. Now let me stop the Protestant right there. When did the church ever give birth to anybody? Now you could say, if you wanted to say Mary, that makes sense, she gives birth to Jesus Christ, but when did the church? The church is a virgin. when she marries the Lord. She didn't have any children. It has to be Israel. And the context, here's what's important to get. The context of the passage is a woman going through the tribulation period. And it's not the time of the church's trouble. It's the time of Jacob. That's Israel. It's their trouble. And notice what's going on in verse 2. She's travailing in birth. And so what you're going to find over and over and over again is that it's not Mary travailing in birth going into the tribulation. It's Israel. Look at Jeremiah 4. Excuse me. Jeremiah 4. Jeremiah 4 verse 31. And there's a bunch more, but I'm just gonna give you a handful because I told you we're comparing scripture with scripture. Jeremiah 431. Jeremiah 431. For I have heard a voice as of a woman, there it is, not a virgin, a woman, in travail. and the anguish as of her that bringeth forth her first child, the voice of the daughter of Zion." So it's Israel. It's not a church. It's not Mary, the voice of the daughter of Zion, that bewaileth herself, that spreadeth her hand, saying, Woe is me now, for my soul is wearied because of murderers. It's pictured as a woman going... Now, part of that whole thing, you know all those passages, and Brother Matt's gone through them, you'll see them all through the Gospels, where it says, Watch and pray, watch and pray, watch and pray. You don't know when the Lord's coming as a thief in the night. He's coming to take you as a woman travailing in birth. And you know what happens with a woman? She gets up there past seven months and all of a sudden she's not supposed to fly anymore. All of a sudden she stops planning long trips. Why? Because it could happen at any time. Nine months is when it should be. But she could go early. You don't know. Something could happen. Uh-oh. Why? It just hits you. That's what's going on. It's like travailing in birth. Look at Jeremiah chapter 6. Look at verse 24. Jeremiah 624, we have heard the fame thereof, our hands wax feeble, anguish hath taken hold of us, and pain as of a woman in travail. Now that's Israel. Alright, look at 1 Thessalonians 5. And let's see what the Lord says in regards to the church. 1 Thessalonians 5. I've got a question for all these guys that say we're going to go through it. If the church is supposed to be a virgin, how could she surveil in birth? It doesn't fit in type. What you have is Israel, is bringing forth a man-child, and what you're going to find, well, I'm going to get ahead of myself, I'll just hold on. 1 Thessalonians 5 verse 1, But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety, then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child, and they shall not escape." Not the church, they. Someone else. Not the brethren. What's going on with the brethren? Verse 4. But ye, brethren, are not in the darkness, that the day should overtake you as a thief. Well, that day doesn't overtake you because you're not travailing in birth. He's going to call you out. You get called out before. You go up and get married. Look at Isaiah 13. Isaiah 13. Isaiah 13.6. Isaiah 13.6. How ye, for the day of the Lord is at hand, It shall come as a destruction from the Almighty. Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt, and they shall be afraid. Pangs and Charles shall take hold of them. They shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth. They shall be amazed one and another. Their faces shall be as flames. Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel, both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate, and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it. All right, one more, Isaiah 66. And when I say one more, that's not all of them. I took a bunch out. There's some over in Micah, there's a couple more in Jeremiah, and I believe in Isaiah as well. A little homework if you're curious. Isaiah 66, verse 6. A voice of noise from the city, a voice from the temple, a voice of the Lord that rendereth recompense to his enemies. Before she travailed, she brought forth. Before her pain came, she was delivered of a man-child. Keep going. Who has heard such a thing? Who has seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? Or shall a nation be born at once? I'm not sure how much to get into all this, I might have to save it for another time, but what you have is over there in Revelation 12, the nation of Israel, it's bringing forth a man-child, and it's likened to this, this thing is likened to like travail, it's like horrible pains and giving birth, and what comes forth is a remnant, just a small seed. Now what's that travail? It's probably like a holocaust. It's something that's butchering them and killing them. And what comes out of it at the other end is a remnant that survives and runs into the wilderness. And that's what's going on. It's being likened to a man-child here. And it happens on the day of the Lord. It might happen real quick, I don't know exactly. But it says here, shall a nation be born at once? For as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her child. Shall I bring to the birth and not cause to bring forth? Saith the Lord, shall I cause to bring forth and shut the womb, saith thy God? Rejoice ye with Jerusalem and be glad with her. All ye that love her and rejoice for her, excuse me, rejoice for joy with her, all ye that mourn for her. And that's something coming out. Now listen, listen. Do you see how much scripture you have to ignore to make it merrier the church? Verse after verse after verse that shows you that it's not the woman is not Mary, the woman is not the church, it's Israel. And you gotta, that's a lot of scripture to ignore. And it shows you that a lot of religion is just fluff and tradition. This fits my idea, this fits what I think is right. As opposed to comparing scripture with scripture. I'm almost done, look at Revelation chapter 12. So what you have happening here is there's a remnant of Jews that run out into the wilderness. We'll see that as we go further into Revelation 12. And that woman, Israel, brings forth a child. Now here's the thing. In history, it's Jesus Christ being brought forth out of Israel. But in prophecy, it's Israel bringing forth a child, and it's a remnant that runs out in the tribulation period, and they stay away from the Antichrist, and they don't take his mark. That's what that is. Alright, let's look at verse 3, and I won't get into this real heavy, but look. It says, And there appeared another wonder in heaven, and behold, a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns and seven crowns upon his heads. Now, that's the devil. You can see in verse 9, and the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent. That's a good cross reference for Genesis chapter 3. I've heard people, I mean they're all knuckleheads, but they'll say, well that serpent there, there's no passage that says that that's the devil. I don't think there's an older serpent than Genesis 3. That old serpent, called the devil and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world, he's cast out into the earth and his angels were cast out with him. So that's the devil himself, and I can give you some more stuff on that next time, but I just want to draw your attention to verse 4 as we close. It says, And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman, which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. Now, I don't have time to get into this tonight. I just know it'll take us way late. But there's a question there of him drawing those stars. That's obviously talking about angels, obviously. And those stars, the question is, is he drawing those stars like the sons of God? Is that a past historic event? Or is it something yet to come? And I'm pretty much, I mean, I'm set on what I think. Maybe it's, is it Larkin? I think Larkin teaches that thing like that's just talking. It's talking about the history of Genesis 6 and the fallen angels from back in the day. I don't think so. I think it's going to happen again. I think he's going to deceive them again. And around the time of the tribulation, he deceives them. I don't know exactly when that is. It could be right now. Maybe those UFOs over Jersey, I don't know, I'm just saying. But I think he deceives them again. I think he causes them to fall again. Look at Isaiah chapter 9. Now, I've shown you the scriptures, I don't think I need to show you again, but what you have, when it says stars there, a lot of times throughout the Bible, it'll say something's a star, it's an angel, and vice versa. We're not talking about something up there like the sun. It's just something, it's just the way the Lord does that sometimes, calls it a star. Isaiah 9. And look at verse... I will tell you in a second. That ain't what I'm looking for. There's a verse that talks about he's rather like the stars and he swings them down. I'll have to find it for you next time. I can't remember. There's a verse in Isaiah specifically I remember. I thought I had it here, but I don't, where it talks about him drawing them like the tail. It's really similar to Revelation 12 when he casts them down to the earth. I'm not sure where it is. I'll get it for you next time. I read 15, but it didn't look like it. Yeah, no, that's the note Doc has, but that's not even the one I'm looking for. I know there's another one in Isaiah. I just, I don't, I had it in my old Bible. This new one doesn't have it anymore. I'll get it for you. I'll get it for you next time. I know where it is too. It's like top right, man. I can see it in my mind's eye. But that thing, it looks like he grabs him again. You know what? I bet you it's right there. Nope. That's pretty good, Isaiah 34'4". It's probably not the exact one I'm looking for but that's pretty close. Isaiah 34, 4, And all the hosts of heaven shall be dissolved, and the heavens shall be rolled together as a scroll, and all their hosts shall fall down, as the leaf falleth off from the vine, and as a falling fig from the fig tree. Now, the reason why, and this is just what I think, I can show you scripture to give you the principle, but I can't prove it 100%. But the reason that I think that it's still prophetic and it's still future is because every time the Lord has to come down and drop some serious, I mean catastrophic judgment, the angels are there too. And there's normally something perverted going on. So in Genesis chapter six, you've got the sons of God come down, they co-mingle with women and the Lord says, I gotta clean this place up because the spiritual is mixing with the physical. In Daniel two, it says iron mixes with clay and the Lord goes, can't have it, wipe it out. And then in Genesis chapter 18, you've got before the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah, you've got two angels there and the men are trying to Perversion is trying to take place, and the Lord says, wipe it out. And then what you have is, when you get over to the Gospels, you have Jesus Christ, and he says, just like in the days of Noah, just like in the days of Lot, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man. Well, those are some similarities. And they just happen. You see how all those things start lining up, and all of a sudden it says the devil tricks them again. Now, how does he do it? How in the world, how does he trick them again? They're up there right now, the sons of God. They're giving glory to God right now and they've got the completed word of God and they're sitting up there and the devil is so sneaky. You know what that tells you? He'll trick you. He'll get you. If he can get a holy, excuse me, if you can get some kind of being up there that's looking the holy God and seeing all that purity and all that holiness, he's looking right at them and he goes, I'm going to go with him. I think he's got a chance. He can get you if you're not careful. All right, I think I'll close there. Any questions? Nope. All right, let's close. Father, we thank you for your words and Father, I thank you for the folks that come out. It's a blessing to