friends to the generation's radio broadcast kevin swanson your host with you today coming to you from a basement out here in eastern plains of colorado homeschooled father of five homeschooled myself back in the nineteen sixties and nineteen seventies by my parents and we are certainly in the age of the massive secularization of education in this country and every country around the world. There is an agenda afoot in which our children are being massively co-opted by a system of thought that is robbing them of the knowledge and the treasures that we have in the Lord Jesus Christ. And friends, this is a coordinated attack that is happening at the realms of principalities and powers that truly, truly have got a monopoly of thought in the public schools on just about every continent around the world, certainly Africa, Asia, America, Europe, South America, North America. These continents have been utterly taken by a materialistic, anti-supernaturalistic, socialistic, worldview. And so the question is, will anybody survive? The question is, will any of our children be discipled in the fear and the nurture and the admonition of the Lord? That's the question. Will anybody survive in this massive attack upon our children, upon our Christian families, upon our Christian churches, and will pastors stand in the gap? Will there be anybody with the faith and the courage to stand and say, enough, we need to raise our children in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord. We certainly need the Word of God to be as a front lip before our eyes as we sit in the house, as we walk by the way, as we rise up, as we lie down, that the Word of God be completely integrated into the history, into the science courses, into the literature courses, into every aspect of our children's raising? Will we bring back a distinctively Christian approach to education or will we toss our children into the arms of the devil and allow a false worldview and a false philosophy and vain deceit to be the means by which our children are educated? So that's the question that is facing every Christian family every Christian pastor around the world today in which modern secular education is completely dominating so now here's the question will Christian education survive? Will it develop in Uganda? Will it develop in the Bahamas? Will it develop in South America? Will it develop in Japan, in Korea, or in China? That's the question that we're going to deal with today on this edition of Generations Broadcast with me. is Pastor Daniel Chong. He is the director of the Korean Christian Homeschool Association, and I've been there. I've had the opportunity to speak at a conference in Korea. It was one of the best experiences of my life. And I'm so excited that the very roots of a new Christian education, distinctively Christian discipleship program for Christian families, is developing in South Korea. Yes. What a blessing. Daniel, welcome to the program. Thank you so much. Well, I tell you, I'm excited with what God is doing in Korea. Now, these are just the beginnings of a movement. You told me, off-air, 5,000 to 10,000 homeschool students in Korea today, and something like 50 graduates thus far, including your two children. two of your children have graduated as homeschool graduates, and you got the vision back, well, 40 years ago. So tell me how that started. 40 years ago, you got something of a vision for developing distinctively Christian education for Christian families in Korea for the advancement of the kingdom of God generationally. How did that happen? You know, when I was in high school, at that time, first, I believed in Jesus Christ, but in public schools, they teach me through, you know, evolutionism and humanism. So they teach humanism and evolution in Korean public schools as well as private and Christian schools. Yeah, MIT, and you know, it's a whole private mission, all the mission schools, whole schools are governed, you know, controlled by, you know, a governor. Right, so the government controls the private schools and the Christian schools in Korea to the extent that they mandate the teaching of evolution and humanism. Yeah, humanism. So they have quite a bit of control over the curriculum and the teaching in the private schools, the Christian schools, or the mission schools in Korea. But are homeschools exempted from that? Some optional schools, we can teach our children, but they couldn't receive any certification of school. So in homeschool, same situation. So God in his grace gave you two children. Yes. A son and a daughter. Yes. Beautiful. I've met them. Wonderful people. Thank you. God has blessed you, not only with two children, but now three grandchildren. Yeah, yeah. Praise God. Yeah, thank you. So the year was about 2000. This would have been 19 years ago. Yes. And you took the opportunity to begin to homeschool. Yes. Now your children were a little later in their years, I think junior high, high school level. But you decided, hey, it's time to homeschool my children. Yes. And the reasons, mainly you wanted to give them a Christian worldview? Yes. Some, you know, in school system is more influence from our Greek thought, Greek system. The Greek humanist system, right? Greek humanist system is, you know, various divide and classify each subject. And then, you know, in schools and divide in each years. So it's not good. And only just the Greek wars, more economic part, only just is how it's more cheap. So it's cheaper than Christian schools and private schools. Security is more cheaper than some time, you know, it gathers all together. That time is more, we save the money. Yeah, like that. So, home school is more organic. Which means that you have more opportunity for interaction with your children individually. Yeah, individually. So you don't have to do a one-size-fits-all approach. You can sort of develop a form of education for each of your children individually, but also there's some flexibility in what you study. And you like that. Yeah, yeah. You know, in Korea, it's almost curriculum is, you know, consulted the governor and very strong influence from evolutionaryism and humanism. So I got some Christian curriculum from U.S. Good. Okay. So you had to teach your children by myself. Using Christian curriculum from America. Yes. In English. In English. Do your children know English fairly well? Yeah. Yeah. I was missionary in Uzbekistan. Okay. At times I met U.S. missionary in the mission field in Uzbekistan. The time is my son and daughters, they attended, you know, mission schools. Yeah. And Evergreen International School. The time is my son and daughters, they studied all subject by English. I see. And so that's where they learn English and use Uzbekistan. Well, we want to further develop that as the years go by. That's the vision. We're going to take a break and be back in just a moment. I want you all to know that the situation in Korea is highly critical today. In terms of the political situation, will Christianity survive? Will freedom survive at all in South Korea? I'm not talking North Korea. I'm talking South Korea now. We're going to discuss that next on The Generation's broadcast with Pastor Daniel Chong. Be back in a second. It's hard to imagine Christian pastors going to jail for their faith, and it's just as hard to imagine Christian businessmen fined $135,000 for not baking a cake in celebration of a homosexual wedding. 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That's Generations.org. we're back on the generation's radio broadcast kevin swanson with you and friends we talk all the time about the difficulty we have in america with the massive walking away from the faith of retrograde that is going on amongst the millennial generation and certainly the fact that christianity the christian church is bleeding badly in the western world is affecting South Korea as well. South Korea being one of the strongest bastions of the Christian faith over the last hundred years, especially since the 1907 revival at Pyongyang, one of the most important revivals in modern history. But a hundred years later, now it's almost a hundred years, well 110 years later, things have changed dramatically in Korea. Pastor Daniel Chong with me today in studio and he just told me off-air that Just what, 10 years ago, some 300 students in his Christ University Christian group, now that number is down to 50. There is a massive bleeding going on in the Christian church. Somebody else told me something like 80 to 90 percent of Christian young people raised in Christian homes and Christian churches in Korea are leaving the Christian church, even as we speak. So the problem is desperate. in South Korea right now, which means that Christian discipleship, the raising of our children by parents who care to raise their kids in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord is absolutely critical. It's time now, I think, to call out for the Holy Spirit to come and to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, the children to the fathers, in order that our children will prophesy as mentioned in Jude and Acts 2 and so forth and so on. There needs to be something of a restoration of the Christian faith, of an outpouring of the Holy Spirit of God in the present century. And friends, we're in trouble here in America and they are in trouble, perhaps even more trouble than we are in South Korea. The church is not doing very well in South Korea right now. Is that the way you see it, Daniel? Yes. Now, in Korea, after the Korean War, North Korea's continuities have is invaded into South Korea by communists. So, they controlled and they made some kind of club in university. They trained there. Many students, university students buy Marxist, Karl Marx and Lenin. So Marxist ideology is expanding in colleges and universities throughout South Korea by influence from North Korea. But also just simply by influence from the humanist ideology that's so strong in the universities and the K-12 schools, communism is on the rise in South Korea. And this is far more advanced, far more frightening and imminent than what we see happening in the United States. Thankfully, to some extent, socialism has been set on its heels. for a few years here in america although it does march on and the government spending to gdp has grown significantly here as well but in south korea you have a horrible situation with the present president uh some three million uh koreans protested just a few weeks ago at the um capital of south korea and seoul and So tell us a little bit about what's going on. You think that communism is on the rise and South Korea could very well turn into another North Korea. Yes. Right now, our governor includes President Moon. President Moon. Yes. And President Moon, you say, is a communist, perhaps the most leftist of anybody in the history of South Korea. Is that true? Yeah. Now there is independence from Japan, and then we are first founding fathers, Dr. Lee, President Lee. And Dr. Lee, President Lee, you told me off-air also, a born-again Christian, you believe? Yes, sincere. Sincere Christian. Yeah, he graduated in who graduated in Princeton, Dr. Wilson, he was here, yeah, Wilson's student. So he got a gospel from a missionary from the US, and that time he was in prison. Right, so Dr. Moon was in prison as a young man. No, Moon is Lee. I'm sorry, Dr. Lee, right? Yes. Dr. Lee was in prison as a young man. And for some political reason, he was in prison. And at that time, a Christian missionary preached the gospel to him. He received it, and he became a sincere Christian. Yeah, and then he converted, and then he stayed in prison. At that time, he converted from secular to Jesus Christ. He received many Christian journals from missionaries. He read many journals. And then maybe he got a Christian perspective, and then he knew about communism. And these are the roots of South Korea. I don't know if many of our listening audience understand that the roots of South Korea begin after World War II. And this president served as president of Korea and South Korea from 1945 roughly to 1960, so for some 15 years, he really became the Christian roots of the modern nation of South Korea. you have something of a Christian heritage, something like what we have. We have George Washington, Patrick Henry, Samuel Adams, we have some Christians in our background too. And we're happy for that because those roots give us something of a Christian heritage and God's blessing visits our nation for 200 years because of them. So God has blessed your nation, there's no question about it. You're one of the most prosperous nations in the world, thanks to your Christian roots, much like our nation is. However, just like we are doing, your nation is abandoning any semblance of the Christian faith. They're just walking away from the Christian faith. They're denying Jesus. They're not teaching Christ in the public schools. They're teaching evolution in the public schools and they're teaching Marxism and communism in the high schools and the colleges across South Korea. They are aggressively teaching communism. They want to turn South Korea into a communist nation Yes, private wars underground. They made some club, and then now it's teachers' unions. They are suffered by communists, and then they make some group. And then, you know, they now graduate in university. They become, you know, mass media wars, and you know, it's a governor and yeah, in quotes. And each part of our governors, all aspects of social part, they got authority and power. And then now it's our countries that turn left. So the communists have control of your media, the communists now have control of your politics, the communists have control of your schools, your teacher unions, and your teacher unions are communist, generally, and they also are in unity or seeking unity with North Korea. Is that correct? The teachers unions are aligning themselves with North Korea? Yes. And then especially one, for example, is teachers' union said to children, you know, is in Korean war, the time is South Korea invaded to North Korea. It's a liar. It's not correct. Yeah. It's North Korea invaded, you know, South Korea. Yeah. They totally, you know, yeah so they're reconstructing history we understand how that works it works here the same as it works everywhere as satanic forces seem to gain control over education now if you were the evil one and you were an evil conspirator the first thing you would do to co-opt the nation would be what to take control of the k-12 schools and the universities yes and that's precisely what has happened in america the liberal to conservative ratio of professors in universities across America has increased from 2 to 1 to about 20 to 1 in just the last 25 years. So America's universities have been massively liberalized. We have far more socialists and communists serving as professors of our major universities today than were serving back in 1990. So the same thing has happened in South Korea. They're going after the best nations in the world, the most God-blessed nations in the world that had something of a rich Christian heritage. That's precisely what's going on in South Korea now. And so far, they've been successful at legalizing abortion, and almost every nation in the world has legalized abortion, with South Korea being one of the very last nations to outright legalize abortion. I think that just happened this year, didn't it? Either this year or last year. yeah so then the nation this year the nation has legalized abortion they're um they're also imposing very high taxes this is like venezuela Yes. So President Moon is turning South Korea into Venezuela, and that was a disaster. Yes. So what's going to happen with homeschooling in this next election? So you're having an election in 2020, just like us. Yes. What's going to happen in the 2020 election, and what kind of impact will that have on the future of Christianity, the Christian faith, Christian families, and Christian homeschooling in South Korea, do you think? Yes, the Freedom Party, but this freedom is not from God. It's just the socialized freedom. The Republican Party is more on the right side. The Freedom Party is more on the left side. Now it's this governor's left side. Yes, a neo-Marxist. They are now, they want to change our constitution. They, you know, they accept, you know, accept, you know, freedom in constitution. The time is weak. At that time, we can't lose our freedom of speaking, freedom of consciousness, conscience, and then freedom of religion. Right, so you think you're right on the edge of losing the freedom to speak, the freedom of religion, the freedom to suppress, the freedom to homeschool. Yes, yeah. When we lost the freedom, at that time we couldn't teach our children by a biblical perspective. Yeah, now it's our governors, they want to join with North Korea, like a federal union with North Korea. So now it's very difficult. Our governors, they want to close relationship with China and North Korea. Yeah. So you're at a very, very critical stage in the history of South Korea right now. How is the church responding to this? Is the church waking up and realizing that the future of the nation is at stake? Yes. Right now it's some, yeah, some, not almost, it's some pastor, Christian leaders, we recognize the situation. So now it's, a strong protest. This governor, at the end of the week, regularly on Saturday, we have a meeting of about 200 or 300 people. uh millions on 12 millions okay so three million people came down to the capital to protest yeah how many pastors you said the pastors are aware of this pastors are getting more active how many pastors do you think are coordinating their forces and beginning to push on this Yeah, now about 10,000 or 15,000. 10,000 to 15,000 pastors are involved in fighting for the future of Korea, the freedom to worship, the freedom to raise our children in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord. So thankfully, they're waking up. So you think this is something of a wake-up call for South Korea? Yes. Now it's like a white house. In Korea, it's a blue house in front of a blue house. About 1,000 or 2,000 people stay there day and night. Oh, so 24-hour-a-day prayer is going on right now. Friends, 24-hour-a-day prayer, 724s, a thousand people are in front of the Blue House in South Korea appealing to God for his mercy upon the nation. Isn't that something? I don't think we've ever seen that in the history of this country. So We see something of a faith that's still alive and well in South Korea that's encouraging, similar to what's going on in Hong Kong as well, as they gather around the various airports and government buildings and sing the song, Sing Hallelujah to the Lord. Do they sing hymns? They do sing hymns and choruses. as a thousand people are day and night praying in front of the blue house around the capital in South Korea, my friends, we're going to expect a miracle here. We need a miracle. Yes. Especially America has a very strong relationship with South Korea. We pray for the North Korea has a very close relation with China and Russia, but South Korea already has a close relation with the U.S. and Japan. This relation is just very, very important. Freedom from God is very important. So next year, in April, we have an election vote for Congress. At that time, we must win. That's right. So next year, the 2020 elections in South Korea, absolutely critical congressional election coming up and we in America need to be in prayer for our brothers and sisters in South Korea and do what we can to encourage the nation of South Korea to take the right track towards freedom and liberty instead of destroying their nation by a communist ideology, a communist economy, and a godless form of education that will inevitably destroy the nation. Well, we need to be in prayer for South Korea, so I think that's the message. Thank you so much. That's the message today on this edition. of Generations. Thank you. Daniel Chong is with me on the Generations broadcast. He is director for the Korean Christian Homeschool Association, and we look forward to hearing more of what God is doing for the nation. Yes, thank you so much for inviting me. 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