Footsteps of Messiah, page 420. We're talking about the Kingdom Age, and we're talking about what God's going to do for Israel in the Kingdom Age. What we're going to see, the primary issue is the possession of the land. We know that they're in the land right now, but they don't have full possession of the entire land grant. They have partial control, and they've always had partial control. They never had a full control of the land, and they'll only get full control of the land in the Kingdom Age with the Lord. We're going to look at the Abrahamic Covenant, but one of the things, you know, going to Israel and seeing everything on the ground and stuff and listening to the guide and whatnot, there's an issue that Israel continues to have and it plagues them even to this day. And I remember we were standing in the city of David and the guide was talking about something and It was one of the guys from another party that was there that hyped up. And I remember the guy saying that, you know, all we want is peace and we just want to get along and stuff. And I think his comment was, and he was right to say it, don't give them an inch. And I think he was referring to the Muslims and whatnot. Don't appease them. And one of the problems that Israel has even today, and they've had even you know, since 1948. They fight for their country, but they always will back into this thing of appeasing and giving stuff away. Like they gave the Gaza Strip area, there were habitations there, and they gave a lot of the Gaza away. And what has that turned into? Just a place of rockets that comes out of that place. they gave that away and they'll do things like that that you say don't give them anything don't give Muslims anything they don't own the land they don't deserve it but they're doing everything they can for peace but it never works out because they always get fired upon you know and they rush the borders and stuff like that and so until Israel gets that figured out they're always gonna do trade deals for peace and stuff like that And I just, I'm watching what Trump's getting ready to do. He's getting ready to break out his peace plan, so to speak. And it's like, I listened to one Israeli gal who really gets it. I don't know if it was Carolyn Glick or somebody, but they said, don't even do it. Don't even try trying to give a message to Trump. Don't, because you're not gonna do a deal with the Arabs. You're not gonna do a deal with the Palestinians because you can't make a deal with them. So just, Forget it. It was the idea. So I don't know if Trump will What he'll do with that, but I'm nothing's going to appease the muslims because the muslims all they want to do is kill the jews and run Them off the land. Well, how do you make peace with that kind of people? We can't but israel, you know so desperate for peace wants to do what they can and because of their appeasement they never have the full right to the land. And you can see this in Joshua's day. Once they got into the land and they started fighting for territories and they got victories, there was elements eventually that they ended up settling with people in their land and wouldn't drive them out, if you remember. One people group even tricked them, if you recall, and they got into a deal with them. And so then what you start seeing is that Israel started settling with, we'll call them the Canaanites, but just different tribes, and let them live in the land commingling with Israel, and that became a thorn in Israel's side, because they wouldn't completely expel them out of the land. It's a good principle that we need to learn. Don't settle in your Christian walk. Don't tolerate things you should not tolerate. And you say, well, I just want to get along. And a lot of people just want to get along in their family for peace. Well, we want Christmas to go well. We want Thanksgiving to go well. So let's just turn a blind eye to what Uncle Joe is doing or to what this person is doing so we can have somewhat peace. It never works. It doesn't work for Israel with the land, historically and now, and it doesn't work even in your family. If you tolerate nonsense, they will end up biting you in the end. Just like when we were there, second day we were there, 300 rockets fire out of the Gaza. And if I go back to what, 2008 or 2009, they gave that area to the Palestinians and they took out thousands of Jewish settlers in that area and said, fine, we'll get out of the area and they displaced all these Jews and we'll give you the area just to have peace. And what comes out of that area every day? Most of the time, rockets. If you can get an app on your phone, it might run down your battery. It's called Red Alert. You can put it on your phone. If you put Red Alert on your phone, it will bing to you every time a rocket is fired. Every time. It's an Israeli app. It's called Red Alert. Put that on your phone and watch how many times that thing goes off. It'll go off all the time, and you won't believe it. And that's what's firing out of there because they appease. So that mindset is going to have to change. But here's what we're going to do tonight is they're going to get the land, but it's going to take Jesus to get them the land, the full extent of the land that was promised to Abraham. But we have to know the basis of this land grant and how important it is. And we're going to look at the Abrahamic covenant a little bit. If you look in page 420, right there in the middle of the page, Genesis 12, 1 through 3 starts it. And it says, Now Yahweh said unto Abram, Get out of your country and from your kindred and from your father's house unto the land I will show you. And I will make of you a great nation and will bless you and make your name great and be you a blessing. And I will bless them that bless you, and him that curses you I will curse." There's Israel's foreign policy, by the way, God's foreign policy for Israel. And in you shall all the families of the earth be blessed. So there's the beginning of the Abrahamic covenant. And Abraham had a choice to turn away from this. The writer of Hebrews makes that point. But Abraham went ahead and decided he was gonna go for it. So he left Ur and went into the promised land. Okay, then you move down. And it says in Genesis 12 7 and Yahweh appeared unto Abram and said unto your seed I will give this land and there built he an altar unto Yahweh who appeared unto him. So now we expand the Abrahamic covenant to not just Abraham, but now to his seed, his progeny, his biological progeny. This is very important because it's for the Jews, okay? That's who's the biological progeny. Move up to page 421. Yes, go ahead. It is, because in chapter 12, that's where it begins, and it includes the seed aspect. And that's where you have to take everything in context. And what they're doing is they'll take 12, one through three, and ignore verse seven. And it's all together in the section that Moses is writing. And so, yeah, it goes beyond him, obviously. And then it's continued, and we'll see this as it keeps getting repeated, and it gets repeated to Isaac, and then it gets repeated to Jacob, and then beyond them to the nation of Israel. So the Abrahamic covenant continues to be reconfirmed with the descendants of Abraham all the way to the 12 tribes. And that is where you start understanding all the way into Genesis 17 that, oh, this is for the nation of Israel. Hence, This is why when we go back to Genesis chapter 12 that I can say whatever is promised to Abraham Is promised to Israel the idea if anyone hurts Abraham I'll hurt them if anyone blesses Abraham I'll bless them and then that promise goes to the progeny as well hence What do we deal with now is Jews. If you're pro-Jewish, you get blessed. If you're anti-Jewish, you get cursed. It's as simple as that. And we know that, but you're right, Chris, these liberals, they wanna explain it away. I've even had liberals tell me that right there in Genesis 12, that's hyperbole, that God really didn't mean that. Hyperbole? I said, are you crazy? Hyperbole? You know, Jesus would make hyperbolic statements, and they're statements of exaggeration, right? To get people's minds working. But I don't see any hyperbole in there, do you? But that's what liberals typically want to do. So they try to explain it away saying, well, God really didn't mean that. That's just kind of an expression. I don't think so. I'm going to tell you this, just looking at history, every nation that has tried to do away with the Jews, the Jews stand at their graveside when it's all said and done. And how do you explain the Jews' miraculous existence all these years, even being dispersed among the nations? I think these liberals need to think twice about what they're thinking. But anyway, if you're trying to replace the Jews, that's a convenient way of doing it, I guess. If you look at page 421 in Genesis 13, it's continued. And Yahweh said unto Abraham, after Lot was separated from him, lift up now your eyes and look from the place where you are, northward and southward and eastward and westward. So he's seeing the whole land of Israel. For all the land which you see, to you will I give it, and to your seed forever. So there's the continuation beyond Abraham, your seed, forever. He's noticed the word forever, not just for a time period, not till the church comes into play, it's just forever. And I will make your seed as the dust of the earth. Well, that's true. So that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then may your seed be also numbered. Arise, walk through the land in the length of it and in the breadth of it, for unto you will I give it. So the idea is, I'm going to give this to your seed, and your seed is going to be numerous like the dust. And then what I want you to do, Abraham, is I want you to walk north and south, east and west. I want you to reconnaissance the entire land. Now by car you can go across Israel in about 90 minutes. It takes about nine hours to go from north to south. So it would have taken him a while to walk this, but that's what God told him to do. I want you to see the land. Why? Why would he want Abraham to survey the land? He wants him to see the entire piece of land that he's going to give him, because one day Not only Abraham will experience the whole land grant, but all of Israel will and he wants him to see the exact boundaries of the covenant Yeah, I mean because the boundary goes what at this what let me back up What he knows now there's been no boundaries given at this point in time So he's been taken into the land of Canaan, and he's standing upon some mountain, and we're not sure where, and he's saying, I want you to expand that. Now, I don't think, because at this point he hasn't been given the extent of it. So you're talking the extent to Euphrates River, and to the Nile Delta, the most eastern river on the Nile Delta, which would include the, what's the canal? Is the Suez Canal? Yeah, it's the Suez Canal. So we go past the Suez Canal, and it's the eastern leg of the Nile Delta. And I wrote the name down, because it's a name that most people don't hear. It's the Pelagiac, or Pelagiac. Pelagiic. The Pelagiic is the eastern river of the Nile Delta. It was called the River of Egypt, but it's in the Nile Delta. So it would include the Suez Canal, the Sinai Peninsula, and all the way up to the Euphrates, which would include Iraq, Syria, northern parts of Lebanon. It's a massive, massive land grant. Now, he doesn't see it yet. All he knows, Chris, at this point in time, is he sees the land of Canaan. So he's in the land of Canaan, he's on some type of mountaintop, and he sees what's in front of him. Now, just as Moses stood on Mount Nebo, he could see most of the promised land from Mount Nebo. And so if you're on a high hill somewhere, a high mountain in Israel, you can see how the land goes out. And so he wants them to explore it and show him, this is what you're going to possess. Okay. And I'm sure with God's providence, it's a clear day. And same thing with Moses and they see the promised land. But the one thing is this is, and you have to understand, he's gonna walk the land Abraham will never see the boundaries of it because there has to be a military conquest of the land because as he goes into the land there are Canaanites in there. There are people who are inhabiting the land. There are squatters. And so Abraham is too small with his numbers to do anything to drive these people out. He can't do anything. He lives in the land. He lives in a tent for the rest of his life. He'll go down to Egypt a couple times, but for the most part, he can't do anything about dispossessing the people. That's a problem. So you can imagine what Abraham's thinking. It's like, okay, you're going to give me this land, but there's people on it. And you're saying my seed's going to be on it. So I want you to start thinking a little bit further and I want you to get into the brain of Abraham. The brain of Abraham is saying, we're not gonna possess this in my lifetime. So what does he have to start thinking about? If he cannot drive the inhabitants out, if he cannot possess the entire boundaries, which eventually he'll be told what the boundaries are, what must he be thinking about what Yahweh will do then? He's going to die and he'll never realize this. So what must Abraham think Yahweh must do in order for Abraham to fully realize this if he dies? Because he's gonna die. He'll die at 175 years of age. Abraham must reconcile how Yahweh's gonna bring this about with him dying and yet promising it to him. If he's going to die, yeah, go ahead. He will bring him back from where? The dead. You got it. So a priest supposes in Abraham's mind that Yahweh then must resurrect me in order for this promise to make good to me and my descendants. I have to be resurrected because I will not live long enough to see this happen in my days. So what you start seeing with the patriarchs, they start looking past their life about this, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. That's not gonna happen in their days. It's going to happen in the future. They don't know how long it will take, but it's obviously taken 4,000 years and we're still not there. And what's going to have to happen is, and he's going to tell them, he's going to tell them that I'm going to put your people in slavery. Because when they're in that land of slavery, they can grow to a number where they're big enough and large enough to go back into the land and drive the inhabitants out of that land. And so he's going to be told this, of how Yahweh's going to bring this into effect, but it presupposes I want you to walk the land, I want you to see it, because one day I'm going to give it to you and your ancestors and you'll be resurrected when you see it and take possession. That's the idea. So resurrection is already on their minds. Yes, and the writer of Hebrews makes that point, that he took by faith Well then if he wants me to kill Yitzhak, and Yitzhak has been given the promise to him through as well the Abrahamic promise, he must going to have to resurrect Yitzhak. And that's what his mindset was. So resurrection was already on Abraham's mind of how this is gonna happen. I'm gonna die, I'm not gonna live to see this happen in my lifetime. And this is gonna take a long time. And so, yeah. Yeah, that's resurrection. That's what he theorized, that if I kill him, and he wants me to kill him, but yet he's promised my progeny this, he's gonna have to bring him back to life. That's how Abraham could do it. That's what motivated Abraham to go ahead and follow Yahweh's decision to sacrifice Isaac, is he was gonna bring him back to life. He has to. If he said he's gonna do it through my progeny, he has to bring him back. And he has to bring me back to life if I die. And so, yeah, so resurrection was a very early concept already in the patriarchs that they already believed in. And they believed Yahweh had the power to do that, to resurrect from the dead. It's not a New Testament understanding. It's a very Old Testament understanding, very early. Okay, that being said, let's move to the next passage, which is very interesting, and it's actually when the covenant is signed into blood. And this is Genesis 15. So if you're following, it starts in Genesis 12, and it's continuing through Genesis at this point. Genesis 15 continues, and it says, and when the sun was going down, a deep sleep fell upon Abram. So what's gonna happen here is, or what's happened in the preceding verses of this, is that God has visited Abraham, and he's been there for a long time, most of the day, and he's going to do what's called a blood covenant with Abraham. And there's many, many types of covenants, but this is a big one. The Abrahamic covenant is a blood covenant. There's like a sandal covenant, there's salt covenants, there's all kinds of other different Middle Eastern covenants. Sandal covenants, when you exchange sandals until the promises came true, and then you gave back the sandals when they were done. But this one's a blood covenant. Now what this means in a blood covenant, and you have to understand before you read the text, in a blood covenant, animals will be sacrificed, the blood will be shed, and you will actually split the animals in half. And you'll make a walkway between the animals. And there'll be blood there. It's a path of blood, so to speak. And so the animals are split, the bigger animals, the birds are not, but there's gonna be five types of animals split in two. And so what'll happen is you kill the animal, you separate them out, and the two people making the covenant actually walk together in the middle of the animals, through them. And by doing that, that seals the deal in blood. Now, in a blood covenant, the animal's blood represents the fact that if one of the partners in the covenant breaks the covenant, then they will die. A death penalty will be enacted if you break this type of covenant. And so that's how people made blood covenants. And boy, if you didn't keep your part of the bargain, you get capital punishment. You die because of that. And that was a real deal thing. So what's getting ready to happen is a blood covenant between Yahweh and Abraham. But I want you to watch what happens in this covenant and what doesn't happen, okay? So let's read it real quick. And when the sun was going down, again, he's already split the animals in two, okay? A deep sleep fell upon Abram, and lo, a horror of great darkness fell upon him. Now what ends up happening is before the two walk in the middle of the animals of the blood covenant, Yahweh puts Abraham into a visionary sleep. And what that means in a visionary sleep is this, is that Abraham is asleep and the same word or same understanding is what God did to Adam when he put him to sleep to take a rib out of him to make Eve. He put him in a visionary sleep. He can't feel anything, but in a visionary sleep, the person who's been put to sleep by Yahweh still is conscious of what's going on. Does that make sense? Because Abraham, it says he's asleep, but he'll watch Yahweh do this in a vision. And you'll see Yahweh. Now, you'll see Yahweh in glorified form. Yahweh's appearing to him as a man, right? He's done that with the tree of Mamre, with the two angels, and he's had dinner or lunch with them. But we know that he's asleep, but in a vision, he is seeing this happen. He's conscious and totally aware. And it's probably so he doesn't die. But this great darkness that fell upon him is keeping him from moving. It's keeping him, his body on the ground, not moving at all. If you can get a picture of this, okay? So it's the same visionary sleep that he put Adam in, okay? And he said unto Abraham, now wait a second, Abraham's supposed to be asleep, but he's talking to Abraham. You see what's happening here? It's a vision sleep. He said to Abraham, know of a surety that your seed shall be sojourners in a land that is not theirs, and shall serve them, and they shall afflict them for 400 years. That's talking about the Egyptian bondage, right? So there's some bad news attached to this. Also the nation that nation whom they shall serve. I will judge that's obviously a reference to Egypt. Okay, and Afterward they shall come out with great substance And we know that the Egyptians gave them gold and silver and all kinds of things that they left but you shall go to your fathers in peace and You should be buried in a good old age. He's telling Abram, you're going to die. And he dies at 175, okay? And in the fourth generation, they shall come hither again. That's talking about Moses' generation, the exodus generation. For the iniquity of the Amorite is not yet full. So that's who's in the land and that's who Abraham cannot drive out. He doesn't have the power to do that. He needs the army of Israel to do this. OK, so that has to happen four generations later. In this text, the generation is 100 years. But just as a side note, don't let people tell you, oh, a generation is 40 years. In this context, it's 100. So what you'll see in the Hebraic idea, they'll use the term generation, but it'll refer sometimes to 10 years, 20, 40, even 100. It just depends on the context. So I know people will say, well, this generation, they'll make predictions and they can't do that. That's not a biblical way of hermeneutics. Anyway, that's a side note. And it came to pass that when the sun went down, and it was dark so this is happening at night behold a smoking furnace or it could be translated smoking flower pot oven and a flaming torch or basically the idea in Hebrew is a rising flame that passed between these pieces now that's interesting what is that? so Abraham is asleep but he sees a cylinder this is the idea of the oven it's a cylinder smoke and in the smoke is a rising flame can you get the picture? it's a cylinder of smoke with a rising flame inside of it what is that? yes so It's a theophany, right? It's a theophany. It's Yahweh. But what do you mean a cylinder or a pillar of smoke with a flame inside of it? In the future, how will Yahweh appear to the nation of Israel? In the Shekinah glory, during the day he would appear as smoke, a cloud, and during the night he would appear as a pillar of fire. He had a pillar of a cloud and a pillar of fire. But that's the idea of the smoking furnace is the idea in the smoking furnace, it's an oven, but it was cylinder shaped. It was a round cylinder shape. And that's what Abraham sees. He doesn't understand the perhaps what's what he's seen, but he's seen Yahweh in his glory And what is Yahweh doing? He's passing between the pieces so he sees the glory then go between the two pieces He's yeah, he's going he's going right between the two sacrifice the sacrifice where the blood path is and Yahweh's going through it by himself Abraham is seeing this he's asleep. But again, it's a vision sleep. So he sees what's happening. He can't move He's stuck on the ground and he's watching y'all we go through Between the animals. What is the significance of that? I told you what a blood covenant is what's missing in this? Okay, you got it. God alone is doing this, right? You following this? This is very, very important to understand the Abrahamic covenant. If you don't get this, you'll mess up the whole Abrahamic covenant. It's a blood covenant, but God says, go to sleep. What is the significance of putting him on the ground and putting him out of commission, but yet him still watching it? Right. You're not a partner in this one. This will not be a conditional covenant. Because if the two walk together through it, even if it's a blood covenant, it's a conditional covenant. If you keep your part, I'll keep my part. If one of us doesn't, I kill you. So he intentionally puts him down. I'm gonna walk it alone, which now then says, it's not conditional, it's unilateral, and I'm going to keep it. And I'm gonna swear upon my integrity of who I am as Yahweh, that I will make good on this regardless what okay in a in a blood covenant it's conditional what does that mean if you don't do your part I won't do my part but if I walk it alone and I keep you on the ground what am I saying about Abraham or any of his seed It doesn't matter their behavior. Abraham, if you fail me, I don't care. I will keep it. If your seed fails me, I don't care. I'm going to keep it. This covenant that I'm making with you and your progeny and your seed is despite how you behave with me. I'm going to do this for you and the Jews. Period. Regardless of how you act. That is the basis of the Abrahamic covenant today. They are in unbelief today, yes? They have rejected the Messiah, but the land grant still belongs to them because the Abrahamic covenant is a unilateral blood covenant that Yahweh walked himself. It can never be revoked. Because guess what? If that one who walks the covenant by himself fails, the whole thing fails. Well, God can't fail. He's God. God can't lie. He already says three times in scripture, I don't lie. So for God to be God, he has to keep his promise to Abraham. This whole deal about the Jews comes down to this promise to Abraham, this unilateral covenant. And most of Christianity doesn't understand it. So he says this, and so God does this, and then Yahweh says this. He goes, in that day, Yahweh made a covenant with Abram saying, unto your seed have I given this land from the river of Egypt until the great river, the river Euphrates. Okay, so those are the boundaries, guys. That's gonna come to fruition by Jesus in the millennial kingdom. And then he says, the Canaanite, the Kenizzite, the Kadomite, the Hittite, the Perizzite, and the Rephaim, those are the giant clans, the Amorite, and the Canaanite, and the Girgashite, and the Jebusite. What he's gonna say is, look, I know all those people live in the land and that you can't exercise them out, but one day I'm gonna bring back Israel in the land after their time in Egypt, and they're gonna be able to have the army big enough to drive these groups out of the land, especially the Rephaim. Do you see the term Rephaim? Those are the giant clans. literally Nephilim, okay? The Rephaim are the descendants of the giants. The King of Og is a giant. So they get back in the land and what Satan has done, why they've been out of the land, he's infested the land with giant clans. And so when the spies come back, they say, hey, there's giants in the land, the Rephaim, yeah, there really is. Yes. It's an interesting thing that you'll see in the Old Testament, and I think it's encapsulated in principle by 2 Peter 3, that God's not willing that any should perish, but all should come to repentance. And head of that verse is the concept is God is, we see that God is slack, but he's giving people a time to repent. And so Peter uses that principle. And what you'll see is the way that principle is stated in the Old Testament is their sin is not yet full. So the idea is I'm giving them time to repent, but if it reaches a certain point and they don't, a certain time period, then I'm gonna stop it. So it's the idea of time period. Because a lot of the Canaanites are as sinful as they're gonna get, but it's the idea I'm giving them time. And basically what he did, he gave the Canaanites 400 and something years, 430 years, whatever it ended up being, to get their act straightened out. But they didn't. Now, what they could have done, All of them had this chance as when Israel came back in the land, they all could have, because they all heard what happened in Egypt. Rahab tells them, the spies, hey, we all heard what happened. I'm pumped up because I'm for you guys. They all could have taken the choice of Rahab, all of them, right? Rahab got it and she joins with them. They could have done that, said, come on in, it's yours, we understand that. But like even the Moabite, Ruth said to Naomi, your people will be my people, your God will be my God. They could have all done that, they didn't. And because they didn't, they're told to be driven out. Now, it's not genocide, you have to understand that. Joshua is told by God, drive them out. That's the term, drive them out. What does that mean? You either move or we're gonna fight. That's how it goes. And if we fight, we might kill you. So we're asking you to leave. If you don't leave, we're gonna fight. And a lot of times they wouldn't leave, and so they fought and they killed. And then when you see the fights in Joshua, and then you see a harem pronounced, the harem will be pronounced on giant clans. And the harem will be, I want you to kill everybody, not just the men. I don't want you just killing the men. I want you to kill the women. I want you to kill the children. I want you to kill the animals. And I don't want you touching any of their property. Burn it and burn it down. Why? Why on the giant clans are they told to kill every living creature and burn everything? Cause they're hybrids. They're not fully human. They're not fully animals. They are hybrids from demonic activity. And so the giant clans, when they see that, like Goliath, Goliath was from a giant clan. They are told to harem them, wipe them out, kill them all. Yeah. Can they be what? Yeah, I would imagine they did, but we never see like any of them come into faith. So I don't know. Angels had a probationary period to make a decision for Yahweh. Humans have a probationary period to make a decision. I don't know if God did that for them or whatnot, they had to make a decision, I don't know. But we don't see any evidence of the giant clans ever, ever come to faith. In fact, they were fathered by a demon. And in those giant clans, what we know from ancient history is that they worshipped that particular god of that town or that country. So it appears that they were birthed by a demon and they stayed worshipping their demon god, their demon father, so to speak, and they never came out of that. and definitely used by Satan. I mean, that was Satan's whole intention is to thwart the plan of God by using these hybrids. They tried to ruin the human line and were unsuccessful. So now with the giants, they're trying to keep Israel out of the land. And I can tell you this, that's what kept the other 10 spies from saying we can go forward was the giant clans. These guys are not making it up. They're not lying. They saw real giants, like the size of Goliath and stuff. The king of Og of Basham, I think if I remember reading it right in the scriptures, his bed was like nine feet long. That's how big he was, and Goliath was what, nine feet, nine eight, almost 10 feet, and his armor was 300 pounds. When you see armor being 300 pounds, that's not like a, you know, one of these manute bull type guys. This is a pretty stout guy. By the way, just as a side, if you go and study almost all the ancient literature, Celtics, ancient Europeans, primeval Polynesians, Aztecs, Mayans, all have giant stories. All of them. All have giant stories. Yeah, that's right. I heard a thing Chuck Misler used to say when he was alive, and I don't know if this is true or not, maybe this is, but he said, you know why the Indians used to say how? And you'd put up your hands like this. Do you know why? No joke, I don't know if it's true or not, but this is why he said, because what you'll see, there's a certain peculiarity with the giant clans on their fingers. Did you know what it is? They have six fingers, they have six digits. And so they said the American Indians were trying to find out who were Nephilim, not that they were using the term Nephilim, but when they said how, they always put up their hand to say, you have five fingers or you have six, because if you have six, you're a different breed. Maybe true or not true. Chuck Missler. He used to teach that a lot when he taught about the giants. And you can read the scriptures, there's giant clans that have, it'll say they had six digits. Yeah. And that's where they say the American Indians, again, that all came after the Tower of Babel and all those myths came out, there were giant clans. And so a lot of times you see Stonehenge and you see all these big giant things where like, how did humans do that? Well, if giants existed, they could do that. They could lift things like that if they're giants existed. So again, we don't know all the story, but there's definitely something that went on there. There isn't. And quite frankly, it's really easy to say why there isn't. Most of them were worshipped as gods. And then we don't have hardly any remains of human skeletons unless they're preserved like in a tomb or, you know, like the Egyptian mummies and whatnot. But most of the ancient world buried them in dirt and they would dissolve. There would be nothing left of them. So that's why we don't have a lot of ancient bones unless they were put into a crypt, like a pharaoh or something like that, because the environment would have just chewed them up after a while. Even the bones would have disintegrated. And so we don't have any pictures of that. But we definitely know this. Something happened, because it's all down in all these ancient literatures that we see that there's giants. and they would appease these giants and do things. Let me add this and then we'll stop and take a break. If you look at second temple literature, and second temple literature includes the time of the Herodian and Herod's temple and the time of Jesus, that's second temple literature. If you wanted to know what the Jews thought, you read Second Temple literature, their mindset, and you'll understand why the apostles write the way they do. And one of the big pieces of literature that they read was the book of Enoch. And if you read, the book of Enoch is not canonical, it's not scripture, but it was a very popular book that they all read. In fact, the book of Jude quotes part of Enoch in the book of Jude. Not that it gives a stamp of approval on it, but again, if you want to know what the Jews thought in the first century, read the book of Enoch, and it will tell you their mindset about the Nephilim, about the giant clans, and that was foremost on their mind. They knew that these hybrids had been created. They had all these stories about them and how these angels, the watchers, came down. And guess where they came down at? To make a decision to breed with women. Mount Hermon. Mount Hermon's the highest mountain in Israel. Okay, so mountaintops are always associated to the gods. right, the worship of the God, Mount Olympus and the Greeks, but heaven is, you'll see when we study heaven, heaven's on a mountain. We went by Mount Hermon, but the guide wouldn't go there, and I wanted to get closer to Mount Hermon, because that's where Jesus transformed himself, and the disciples saw the Shekinah glory on Mount Hermon. Why Mount Hermon? No one ever knows this for some reason. I'm talking about the guides or whatever in Israel. Why did he transform into Yahweh on Mount Hermon? Because Hermon was the place where the sons of God decided to mess up the line of the Messiah and destroy the line of Messiah and they made a decision on Mount Hermon to cohabitate with human women and create giants, create hybrids. Now we have a clue that when Jesus died, his spirit went into Tartarus and proclaimed to those angels who are bound forever that he had did victory and their doom was sealed. And so the fact that he was transformed on Mount Hermon into Shekinah glory is symbolic of something. And what is the message being sent? If the angels decided to do that from Mount Hermon, then why take the disciples there and transform himself? Because the Messiah is the one to reverse Hermon. And only the Son of the Most High God has the ability to reverse it. to defeat it, to defeat Satan's plan. And he did. And so that's why it's all symbolic for him to go on Mount Hermon and say, they show his kind of glory. He's going to defeat Satan at the cross and eventually throw him into the lake of fire and thwart Satan's plan of trying to destroy not only the Jews, but to destroy the line of the Messiah. And he wasn't successful, was he? He defeated him. And it just goes to show you that it goes back to Genesis chapter three, that God is going to send the seed of the woman to destroy the seed of the serpent and the serpent himself as well. And he did it symbolically by going on Mount Hermon and transforming. He went to their turf and said, it ain't happening anymore. Boys, we're done. And I'm the one who finishes this. So it's another narrative that you have to understand that's going along concurrently with the human drama of redemption. It's the angelic warfare, it's the angelic conflict that he's doing as well.