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We'll get underway with today's
lesson by having a word of prayer together. Let's pray. Father,
we ask you to take this time that we have, limited though it may
be, and and use it fully for the advancement
of your kingdom, the exposition of your word, the benefit of
your people. We pray these things in Jesus'
name. Amen. Last week in our church membership
class, we began to look at the government and the discipline
of the church. And in the five-page handout
that I've given you today, basically we covered the first page and
a half where I look at the different forms of church government. Actually, I begin by saying it's
impossible to get away from the question of church government.
Every church is governed in some way. And the real question is,
how would Jesus have the church to be governed? That's what we
want to answer biblically. And then I pointed out that in
the history of the church, there are three basic patterns of church
government. A kind of top-down government,
where you have bishops and monarchical elders who rule from the top
down. And then you have church government
from the bottom up, a kind of democratic approach where every
member has the same authority as every other, and officers
have no special place, and every decision in theory should be
decided by the whole congregation. And then thirdly, we have what's
called the Presbyterian form of government, the rule of the
congregation by plurality of elders in a system of graded
courts. I turn then to the biblical pattern
and attempted to show that in scripture, the Presbyterian form
of church government is the one that was followed, endorsed,
and authorized in the New Testament. The church is governed by elders
and always a plurality of them. One-man rule is not allowed in
the Presbyterian system, and the elders are helped in the
work that they are called to do and in their ministry by the
deacons who give attention to the ministry of mercy in particular.
How do men come to be shepherds in the church of Jesus Christ?
Well, they are nominated by the fellow sheep, by the fellow believers
around them who say, we have confidence in this person. We
would be willing to submit to his rule. However, the orthodoxy,
the doctrinal competence of an officer must be verified and
confirmed by the ruling board of elders. In a congregation,
that's the session. In a presbytery, that's the presbytery
itself. And so we have a combination
of the people giving their warrant or affirming their trust and
confidence in an individual, and then the overseer saying
this person is qualified for office as well. within a Presbyterian
church. The decisions made by the elders
are subject to review by the Presbytery, and when disputes
cannot be resolved at the congregational level, they may be appealed to
the Presbytery level, which is the regional, is the governing
body of the regional church, and then beyond it to the General
Assembly. Now, that's all I'm going to
say by way of review. Those of you who are not in the class
can read the first page and a half and catch up with us, but I want
to pick up where I left off last week now with the necessity of
church discipline. or what is sometimes called censures.
This first long paragraph that you find at the bottom of page
two under the necessity of discipline talks about Christ giving directions
to us for dealing with a sinning brother. In Matthew 18, Jesus
says, if you see a brother who sins, here's what you're supposed
to do. Now, I hope it's obvious from
those directions that we are not as Christians to turn a blind
eye to sin in our midst. It is generally accepted in Christian
churches today to have a live and let live attitude and it's
really nobody else's business and we just kind of go about
our own lives. But that really isn't Jesus'
attitude. Other people are horrified at
the idea of confronting a person regarding sin in his life or
her life. And they'll say, you know, the
Bible says judge not. There are other people horrified at the
idea of the church confronting a person. Not only is it bad
that an individual go to another individual, that the whole church
should take up an issue, that they'll say, well, that's going
to offend people. That'll drive them away. However, both of those
attitudes are contrary to the directions of the head of the
church, Jesus Christ. And I want to suggest that as
wise as they may seem to us as human beings to let it live,
you know, live and let live and don't bet in people's lives and
judge not and Don't drive people away and offend them. As wise
as that may seem, it really impugns Jesus' greater wisdom and righteousness
because he says we're not to do that. He does say we're not
to judge hypocritically with a double standard. Don't go to
a person criticizing him for something he's doing when you've
got a beam in your own eye that's ten times or a hundred times
worse than what that person's doing. Jesus says that. But he
also teaches us that when a brother is caught in sin, you who are
spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness, looking
to yourself lest you also be tempted, Galatians 6.1. So this
effort, whether in one or more discussions to bring about repentance
on the part of a sinning brother, should be in private. And when
he does not heed you, You are to approach him again, Jesus
says, now with two or three other believers who can help bring
about reconciliation and be a witness to the situation. But if the
brother still refuses to repent, then listen to this. He says,
quote, tell it to the church for resolution. And we must do
this for the good of the offender as well as for the good of the
church. When we say, oh no, we don't want to get involved in
church discipline, what we're really saying is we don't love the church and
we don't love our sinning brother enough to do what Jesus tells
us to do. And so I ask, will this process
offend some people? Probably so. I don't doubt that
it will. I've seen that it does. But then
again, there's a lot in Christianity that offends our natural feelings.
I don't know why offending people all of a sudden becomes a reason
to not do what Jesus says. But failing to deal with the
unrepentant sin will offend others. That is, a church that doesn't
deal with sin in its midst does offend others, and above all,
more importantly, it offends God Himself. If the church is
true to its Savior and Lord, the church of Jesus Christ may
not choose to disregard His instructions for dealing with unrepentant
sin. The biblical common sense of all this is evident to you,
and I've brought you along and you agree with me. But if I have,
if you really are with me in this lesson, I need to tell you,
you are out of step with the vast majority of Christendom
today, certainly American Christianity. The idea of church, I mean, government
seems to be an obscure enough question in most churches, but
that the government should discipline people is just really a horrendous
thing. If you don't believe me, get
into a conversation with people who go to other churches and
say, you know, in our church we rebuke and excommunicate. They
go, what? How can you do that? And yet
it's so clear in the pages of the Bible. I feel somewhat like
in my sermon this morning, we are so set by tradition in our
views of Christianity that when we open the Bible, it's just
kind of like a slap in the face. Discipline is called for. And
I think this matter is biblically and persuasively set forth in
the Westminster Confession of Faith, chapter 30, of church
censure. And before I read that, let me
tell you that the word censure, not common parlance among us,
the word censure stands for a judgment against the person involving
some kind of condemnation. Church censures are not civil
penalties. Don't read them that way. Don't
treat them as though they were. And they have binding authority
only within the church. So when the session rules something
within the church, that isn't a civil penalty, and it doesn't
apply to anybody except in the church. They are ministerial
and declarative in nature, carrying moral and spiritual power. That
doesn't mean, oh, they're not all that important. Now what
it means is they have a lot more importance in civil judgments.
You know why? Because Jesus says in Matthew 18, which you bind
on earth or loose on earth has been bound or loosed in heaven.
So it may not have civil thrust, but it does have eternal thrust.
That makes it very important Censures are to be public, according
to 1 Timothy 5, and all the congregation is to give them support. When
the session rules and the person's been found guilty and a censure
is pronounced, the congregation say, well, we might agree, we
might not. It is your obligation. to support
that. And the goal of church censures
is always reconciliation and the restoration of the offender,
even in the case of excommunication. Even when we say this person
is not deemed a believer, we do that in hopes that they will
come to their senses, confess their sins, and become a believer
for the sake of reconciliation and restoration. Now, let me
read the chapter real quickly in the confession. Chapter 30
The Lord Jesus, as king and head of his church, hath therein appointed
a government in the hand of church officers distinct from the civil
magistrate. To these officers the keys of
the kingdom of heaven are committed, by virtue whereof they, the officers,
have power, respectively, to retain and remit sins, to shut
that kingdom against the impenitent, both by the word and censures,
and to open it unto penitent sinners by the ministry of the
gospel, and by absolution from censures as occasion shall require. Church censures are necessary
for the reclaiming and gaining of offending brethren. for deterring
of others from the like offenses, for purging out of that leaven
which might infect the whole lump, for vindicating the honor
of Christ and the holy profession of the gospel, and for preventing
the wrath of God which might justly fall upon the Church,
if they should suffer His covenant and the seals thereof, to be
profaned by notorious and obstinate offenders. For the better attaining
of these ends, the officers of the church are to proceed by
admonition, suspension from the sacrament of the Lord's Supper
for a season, and, finally, by excommunication from the church
according to the nature of the crime and demerit of the person.
The Bible teaches us the necessity of these church censures that
we've been talking about being carried out by the governing
authority of the church, whom we've already seen to be the
elders. Lack of discipline threatens the offender with eternal consequences. If the church doesn't stand up
and say, you will not get away with this, person goes through
his life or her life thinking, I'm perfectly all right in the
sight of God. It is an act of love to say, no, you mustn't
do that. Lack of discipline infects the
whole congregation, a whole series of passages there. And I think
you know that's true. You know of churches, maybe you've
been in churches, where because they don't discipline certain
sins, everybody thinks it's all right. Or at least they lower
their guard about it. And the whole lump, then, you
see, is leavened by that sin. The Bible says the elders are
supposed to try to keep that from happening. Moreover, judgment
comes upon the church. It's not just that you might
ethically be infected by an unrepentant sinner that the church doesn't
deal with, but God will judge the church that allows unrepentant
sinners to come to the Lord's supper and doesn't deal with
them. And then finally, and I think probably this gets through to
our hearts more than any of those other biblical considerations,
they are biblical, but the one that really gets us is when we
don't discipline the body of Christ, we bring dishonor upon
the name of our Savior. And that dishonor is suffered
repeatedly. When we hear the world look at
Christianity and say, oh yeah, well look at them, look at those
hypocrites. I won't mention any names. We've recently had some
sex scandals with notorious evangelistic TV guys, right? But you see,
if the church were doing its job, the world, you know, and
those people have been dealt with, the church wouldn't be
saying, oh, yeah, look, they've got their religious testimony,
but look at those hypocrites. What they'd have to say is, boy,
they really disciplined people there. They take this stuff seriously.
Now, they may not agree with our standards. We still have
to fight that battle. But the point is, church discipline,
when there is no church discipline, the world freely criticizes this. They don't mean it anyway. Brings
disgrace upon Jesus. And that's why we believe in
this congregation that censures are necessary. They're not easy.
They're not fun. I guarantee you that. But when
Jesus calls us, we can't look back. We can't say, well, I don't
want this cross. We have to carry it day by day.
There are different degrees of censure, and I want to explain
that real quickly and then get on to the next part of our lesson.
Not all censure is the same. If you go to a brother, as the
church goes to a brother who has not repented of something,
it may be that the wisdom of the elders is to give an admonition
or, more severely, a rebuke to a person, hoping that that will
be enough to turn them around. And so number one listed here
is admonition or rebuke, and there's some biblical passages
supporting that form of censure. That's a verbal reproof, an exhortation
that is given publicly from the pulpit. But then another form
of censure, sometimes following rebuke, sometimes you go directly
to this because rebuke is not enough, another form is called
shunning in the Bible. And most Presbyterians, if you
ask them today, wouldn't be able to explain that to you. They'll
say, oh, that's what the Mennonites do, right? They shun. The Bible
says we're supposed to shun people, 2 Thessalonians chapter 3. Shunning
is the withdrawing of social fellowship from a professing
believer, except for purposes of exhorting him or her to repent.
Now, how does the church indicate that it's shunning an individual?
Well, you don't tell them not to come in and sit down and listen
to the preaching of the word. That's what you want them to
hear. Paul says we are to exhort people as brothers, you know,
to turn. But the way we show that we're shunning someone is
we bar them from the Lord's Supper for a season, suspending them
from the sacrament. So they will not be served the
Lord's Supper unless they come around and repent. That is not
the same as excommunication, because at the time of shunning,
you consider this person a brother, and you're using this as a method
to try to reclaim your brother and get him or her to come to
their senses and repent. But then if they will not do
that, after rebuke, after shunning, one or the other or both, then
excommunication is the highest form of censure, supported in
1 Corinthians 5 and Matthew 18, It's the most severe form of
censure being the solemn declaration that a person is no longer considered
a member of the body of Christ. Excommunication is not the declaration
this person may never under any circumstances go to heaven. A
lot of people are scared off from it because they think that's
what the church is saying, and maybe the Roman Catholic Church tends to
say something like that. But in the Bible, excommunication
is saying it's the church's declaration that you're not considered a
Christian, not a member of the body of Christ. That doesn't
mean you never can be. It just means at this point you're
not. We will not give you the privileges or treat you as though
you are. And this censure is to be inflicted only with sorrow
and after earnest efforts are made for the restoration of the
sinner. See, we're not back to the Inquisition and the Dark
Ages and so forth. And we've done this in our congregation,
not a lot, but enough that it breaks our hearts. When we inflict
the censure of excommunication, we do it because we know Jesus
would have us do that to warn the sinner. We want to see this
person restored, but we don't do it with any sense of, boy,
here's some power we exercise, or isn't this fun? You excommunicate
people with broken hearts. Notice that ultimately it's the
sin of impenitence, failing to repent, that brings excommunication.
Some people say, oh, you only excommunicate for sexual sins
or for this or that. Oh, no. Excommunication is not
for any particular kind of sin except ultimately failure to
repent. Any sin will be forgiven if you
repent of it, but failure to repent will eventually call for
you being put out of the body. Okay, so that's what we mean
by church censures. That's what we mean by the discipline of
the church. Ultimately, these things can be declared when a
sinning brother will not come around, or a sinning sister.
I have three sections. Eventually, I'm going to publish
a little book on membership in the church, and that's why you
see it the way it is. I only have a note to myself on these
next three sections of what to elaborate on. I want to talk
about the importance of shepherding oversight, the limits of shepherding
authority, and submission to the authority of shepherds, especially
for those of you who are contemplating membership in our congregation.
First, the importance of shepherding oversight. You say, well, why
don't I go to church where they don't have shepherds? Don't have
to worry about all this. Well, first of all, you shouldn't
do that because then you're going to a church that's not as fully
as it should following the teaching of Jesus. As I already taught
you, you should be looking for a church that wants to obey the
Bible in its fullness. Churches that don't have a government
and don't have censures are not doing that. And don't think that
you're free of guilt if you say, well, I'll just choose one of
them because God will hold you accountable for going contrary to his word
and doing that. But there's another importance to shepherding oversight
that isn't just this formal matter of disobeying the command. In
Hebrews 13, 17, we read, obey them that have the rule over
you and submit to them For they watch in behalf of your souls,
as they that shall give account, that they may do this with joy
and not with grief, for this would be unprofitable for you.
The Bible says obey your leaders because God's put them in a position
to care for you, to oversee your life, to watch in behalf of your
soul. You know, watching in behalf
of someone's soul isn't always a matter of going and saying,
hey brother, hey sister, you're out of line, be careful. Now that
can be done gently and it must be done biblically when it's
called for. But you see, the shepherds do
more than just call for you to stop sinning. The shepherds also
come when you're weeping. They come when you're brokenhearted.
They come when you're confused and you don't know what the Bible
would have you to do. The shepherds are there to help keep the sheep
as a flock together and working with one another in the service
of God and reconciliation with personal relationships. The shepherds
do a lot of things, all of which amounts to looking out for your
souls, being your spiritual doctors, if you will. And we all need
that. Now what would you think of a
person who had tuberculosis or some other disease who said,
you know, the way I'll take care of that, I just won't ever go
to the doctor. Won't even have to deal with it. You say, well,
what a fool. And the problem's there, it's
just you're not addressing it. You're not getting the help that
you could from the experts. In the same way, all of us as
sinners, unless you've been glorified and you're still walking on earth
somehow, You've still got sin. You still have problems in your
life. You do get depressed. You do get confused. You do get
out of step with the rest of the church, and you need a surgeon
of souls. You need someone who has some
expertise and greater maturity, hopefully, and insight to God's
Word to help you. That's why shepherding oversight
is important. That's why you should think long
and hard before you join a church. Say, do I trust these people?
Will they look out for my soul? Are they competent? And I'm not
going to be a Pollyanna. There are some churches where
I wouldn't say yes. I wouldn't trust the shepherds
of that church, even though I think they're Christians, and even
though I think they mean well. I just don't think they're competent
shepherds. And that's what you should look at when you look
at this congregation or any other. Now, what's the limits of shepherding
authority? Now that I've argued so strongly for the authority
of the shepherds, there are going to be some people who say, well,
how's this different from, you know, some cultic groups where,
you know, you can't even go to the store and buy something without
calling your shepherd and saying, is it alright to do this? Well,
we don't believe in that kind of thing in the Presbyterian
Church, and the Word of God doesn't support that, though that's sometimes
called shepherding, I know that. In the Westminster Confession,
chapter 20, section 2, we have a definition of Christian liberty
that is worth reading, I think, in answer to this worry that
some people have about shepherding. Chapter 20, Section 2 God alone
is Lord of the conscience, and hath left it free from the doctrines
and commandments of men which are in anything contrary to his
word, or beside it if matters of faith or worship. So that
to believe such doctrines or to obey such commands out of
conscience is to betray true liberty of conscience. And the
requiring of an implicit faith and an absolute and blind obedience
is to destroy liberty of conscience and reason also. You see, in
our constitutional document, in our confession of faith, you're
told you will be protected against people trying to bind your conscience.
So, let's say you join this congregation and the session decides, when
you come to church, everyone has to wear a green shirt. Oh
yeah, you must. Jesus wants you to do that and
you're really sinning against God if you don't. You say, well,
that's what I'm afraid of. It might be some kind of arbitrary
law laid down. Yeah, but you see, if your session
does that, you come in your red shirt, your white shirt, your
blue shirt, whatever you want. And as you come in, you read
this to us. God alone is Lord of the conscience. And unless
you can show this to me from the Bible, I don't have to do
it. And so what's your protection against tyranny in a Presbyterian
system? First, the word of God. And then, of course, if the session
says, oh, well, of course, you don't know the Greek and Hebrew, and
we know better. You are supposed to wear a green shirt at the
church. Then you say, well, maybe we better ask the Presbytery
about this. We're not so sure you got it right. And then you
appeal to the Presbytery. And if the Presbytery is so out
of whack as to not have figured that out, then you appeal to
the General Assembly. And now, if the whole General Assembly
says, well, green shirt sounds good to us, of course, lay it on them.
Then what do you do? Well, I know I'm being lighthearted,
and I'm using a facetious illustration. But in principle, what you say
is, well, this is not a true church then. And if they are that far
out of line with the Word of God that the whole church can't
correct that mistake, then this is not the church. They may be
good people, green-shirted idiots, but they are not the church of
Jesus Christ. Okay. Now, submission to the
authority of shepherds. Once you do join the church,
you have to understand that you are making a vow that you will
submit to the shepherds. Some people have it in their
mind that, um, I join the church voluntarily, I leave voluntarily.
And if the shepherds say something I don't like, don't have to do
it. It's kind of like every man for himself. Well, of course,
if that's true, then I don't know what it means to have shepherds
or elders or overseers. There is no authority at all.
But you have to understand, you don't join the church voluntarily. Well, you do, but that's not
the whole story, is it? Does a person come to church
some Sunday morning and say, okay, I'm joining. Boy, you're
a church member. No, it doesn't work that way.
Now, the person must voluntarily wish to join the church. But
what must happen when a person joins the church? Well, they're
interviewed by the session to hear their confession of faith,
to make sure it's a credible one, that they're willing to
lead the Christian life and be living in peace and harmony.
And then with the permission and acceptance of the elders,
then you become a church member. So yes, it's voluntary, but it's
with oversight. Now, when you're ready to leave
a church, please remember that too. You may voluntarily choose
to leave a church, but it's with oversight. In Psalm 15, verse
4, we read that the person who dwells with Jehovah swears to
his own hurt and changes not. Sometimes it happens that we
have people join our congregation who later say, oh, I wish I hadn't
done that. And those of you who are looking at the membership
class may say, well, that's what makes me a little fearful, too.
Maybe I'll join this church and find out, lo and behold, you got some
skeletons in your closet, or you didn't tell us everything,
but this is really kind of a bum deal. Okay. There are appropriate ways to
leave church. However, you mustn't think that
you just decide, oh, I don't like this, so I up and leave.
You didn't join that way and you don't leave that way. You
leave a church with oversight. And that sounds kind of funny.
But the session will help you to leave the church. Sometimes
we'll help people who don't want to leave the church because we
excommunicate them. But those who want to leave the
church, the session helps them too. And the help doesn't always
mean helping you to stay here. although that should be our goal
and our hope in every case. But sometimes where it isn't
possible, we still want to exercise oversight until you have another
set of elders to take over the oversight of your life and help
you. And so remember that once you submit to the authority of
shepherds, you've sworn to do something, and when you later
don't want to do it, you must still do it. And even when you
want to leave the church, you must continue to abide by the
oversight of your shepherds. And so I have a whole section
here on leaving the church. We have a lot of grief sometimes
when people want to leave the church, not because it's impossible,
but because they act in a way that is somewhat impossible.
And I'm going to, for the sake of time, jump down a third of
the page and note, we may not leave a church without cause.
And I tell you, I teach you this lesson with a heavy heart, because
I have brothers in my own denomination that haven't learned this lesson
yet. We have congregations withdrawing from our church without cause
and without reforming the church the way they should. And I'm
sorry, they set a bad example for you, but I'm going to teach
you what I believe in all good conscience is God's Word. You
and congregations are not to leave the church of Jesus Christ
without cause. Scripture calls upon us to pursue
and preserve the unity of the church, and I have numerous passages
They really push hard too, you know, give diligence to keep
the unity of the spirit and the bond of peace. Consequently,
this unity may not be disrupted by departure from the church
without cause. Sometimes you have to. Luther
had to. Machen had to. In fact, in both cases, they
were put out of the church. But you don't disrupt the unity
of the church unless it's necessary. When you find some reason for
wishing to leave a church, you are morally obligated to seek
to reform the church by the scriptures. To fail to make that effort is
not simply to change from one car manufacturer to another.
It's disloyalty in the midst of battle, disloyalty to one's
fellow believers who are in the battle with you, and disloyalty
to the high command of Jesus Christ, the head of the church.
If the congregation or the denomination of which you are a member refuses,
or in some cases is simply not interested, to be reformed, when
efforts at improving and or correcting the church have failed, then
you are free to seek a new fellowship and to place yourself under new
elders. Remember, of course, you are not free to become autonomous.
That is to be a Christian without church affiliation or oversight.
Now, apart from leaving the church when reform efforts have failed,
in what ways do people have their names removed from the role of
the church? And I put down three here. Removal by death. And I'm
not going to read it for you because time is short, but obviously,
When your name is transferred from this congregation to the
church in heaven, we all rejoice. That's wonderful. That's transfer
with great approval. Secondly, there's removal by
providential circumstances. Sometimes people move out of
the geographical region of a congregation or become part of a new work
closer to their own residence. And that's fine, and we give
a letter of transfer when that sort of thing happens. I have
a note here, if you should move out of the geographical region
of this church and into a place where there are no congregations
of your denomination or a fraternal denomination, a denomination
of like faith and practice, then you'll need to choose the best
evangelical church that will advance your spiritual and a
letter of standing is provided so that they'll know that you
came from a church and were in good relations with it. Then
finally, some people are removed by discipline, which we've already
talked about. Ultimately, excommunication removes the name of a person
from the church. But short of excommunication, a form of discipline
is erasure. You don't find that in the Bible,
and I have a little bit of qualm about that. But in our congregation,
in our denomination, when a person will not be subject to the oversight
of the church and leave in a peaceful and appropriate way, then we
may erase their name and record the circumstances in the minutes,
even though we don't have a trial and excommunicate them. Okay,
so this completes our lesson then on church government and
discipline and the oversight of the elders and what you should
be thinking about if you want to join the church. I'm going
to take just one or two minutes for questions on this lesson
and then we'll change tapes and we'll talk about this morning's
sermon. Kent. What was their standing? Right. Well, actually, we had
a family a number of years ago where that happened. They came
to a charismatic understanding of things and they wanted to
leave the church for one that practiced the speaking in tongues.
And so we asked that they would allow us to bring them some material
and talk to them and try to educate them and see if we could agree
on this point eventually. And they were very pliable and
very submissive. And they allowed us to go out
as a session and talk to them. That's one of the cases where
we didn't persuade them. And I still think we were right
and they were wrong in that matter, but they had done the responsible
thing. They studied the issue and in their own conscience felt
tongues was for them. And so we gave them a letter
of standing, even though we cannot approve of the church that we're
going to. However, if someone had said, oh, I've become charismatic,
I'm going to go someplace where they speak tongues, and we said,
well, will you allow us to give you some material and will you
talk to us about this? No, we're just going to go. We would not
have provided a letter of standing because that is not a submissive
way and a peaceful way to leave a church. That's an unteachable
and self-centered way to leave a church. And to be honest with
you, statistically, that's the way the vast majority of people
leave a congregation. They get it into their mind that
they want to go somewhere. They won't do it with oversight. They
won't deal with the elders. They just decide they're going
to go. We can't respect that. You know, it hurts us, but it's
not because it hurts us that we have to discipline it. It's
because it offends the head of the church. Cindy? When I was in church, I had to
work through my charismatic background, because if I hadn't worked through
that, Yes, the question is, can you
join the church even though you differ with its doctrinal stance
on some points? And the answer is yes, you can.
In a previous lesson in the membership class, that's okay, I've instructed
people that you may not want to join a church if there's a
major doctrinal difference. I mean, it doesn't make a lot
of sense. However, the only thing we require for church membership
is a credible profession of faith in Jesus Christ. And I believe
that Baptists and Charismatics, you know, credibly follow Jesus
Christ, and I do believe they need education to change certain
things, and hopefully we'll provide that here. And it probably is
wisest to get as much of that taken care of before you join
the church as you can, but it's not prerequisite. You may join
the church even though you differ with some of its doctrinal positions.
Leanne. If one of the churches are under
the headship of the elders, who are the elders? Okay, the question is if we put
ourselves under the headship of the elders, of the oversight
of the elders, who's over the elders? Well, the elders in this
particular congregation are governed by, their actions are reviewed
by, and can be corrected by the Presbytery, which is the governing
body of the regional church. And then all those elders are
governed by the General Assembly. And so we have a system of graded
courts. And no one escapes review from
others until you finally get the whole church speaking. And
one more question, Tim. Want to choose which one you
want to ask? What is the uniqueness of the
limitation upon the elders' authority? and all walks of life are governed
by the Word of God. And whenever someone tells you
to do something contrary to the Word of God, you don't have to
obey them. Now, it so happens that your employer may ask you
to wear a green shirt to work as a condition of employment,
and he can't prove that from the Word of God, but he has the
right to do that. There is a uniqueness here in that the elders of the
church cannot require anything of you that God does not require.
That is to say, God doesn't require green shirts in worship, so we
may not do so. However, an employer may require
you to wear a McDonald's outfit, or a green shirt, or whatever
you want. So I guess the way in which that limitation applies
does have some uniqueness in the case of the church as well.
I follow up with a positive sense of, in what sense is a segregation
from the elders what they're going to judge them? Which it
is informing the sort of God Now, we can talk about that,
and that's a very good point to make, that an exhortation
or admonition from the elders does carry greater weight than
any other member. But the question that you started
out on is, is there a uniqueness to the limitation on the authority
of the elders? And that's what I was trying
to answer. Now, the uniqueness of the authority of the elders
is that it carries greater weight because Christ has ordained these
people to rule in the church, and you have submitted yourself
to them. They are supposed to have greater maturity. They are
answerable in ways other believers are not. And therefore, you should
take it with a great deal more solemnity and seriousness when
an elder comes and admonishes you about something. Okay, I'm going to conclude this
section of our membership class and promise you that we will
finish the membership lessons next Lord's Day. I have to say
that Lord willing, if I'm well and everything gets done. And
we'll be dealing with the sacraments and service in the church. This recording has been released
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06 — Necessity of Church Discipline (6 of 7)
Series Church Membership
6 of 7
GB773
| Sermon ID | 1124223404042 |
| Duration | 35:39 |
| Date | |
| Category | Teaching |
| Language | English |
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