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Here, there we go. Now I'm on.
I'm not gonna start another character study until probably after Thanksgiving. I'm gonna do another one of those
fun things. Yeah, we're gonna do another
one of those fun things tonight, those little subjects I like
to bring up. I think I've gone through this before, but just
one of those things. Next Sunday night, and you guys
all need to be thinking about this, we're gonna be, I'm gonna
give you something on faith promise. Talk a little bit about Faith
Promise. And if you're familiar with that, most of you here are
participating in Faith Promise. And we'll have all the information,
how many missionaries we're supporting, how much goes in. What we'd like
to do every year is add two or three missionaries, but that's
up to you. And if you're not familiar with Faith Promise,
I'll explain it to you next week, give you a week to pray about
it. And then the following week, we'll pass the cards out and
you can fill it in. And then we'll figure out if
we can add some missionaries or not. And understand this,
with the card thing, it's just a matter of the figure. We don't
wanna know your name. We don't want any of that stuff.
We just want the figure that you are gonna promise to give
to God throughout the year. And then we can take those cards
and add them up and figure out what we can do. So, excuse me,
we'll start that next Sunday. And I should have had this warming
up while I was saying all that stuff. But tonight we're just
going to do a little fun thing. I call it a fun thing. And you don't even have to take
your Bibles anywhere tonight. You can follow along if you'd
like in your scripture. We'll have the verses up on the
board if I bring the board down. Can I tell you what my dream
is? To push a button and have the screen just come down. To
have this thing wirelessly connected to that that shoots it up on
the screen. I'd be in high cotton if we got
to that point. So I'd be as happy, as I said
outside, I'd be happy as a hog wallowing in a mud hole. But
to this point, that's what we do. So let's have a word of prayer
and then we'll get into this. Father, we come to this evening, we thank
you again for Your goodness and your grace, Lord, we are so grateful
for your people. Lord, our hearts go out to Barb
and Joe and Betsy with the loss of Joe. Lord, he is at home in
heaven. He's probably just flying around
up there right now, still so excited about being there. And
our day will come. Lord, we're waiting for the trumpet
to blow. And if the trumpet doesn't blow, One way or the other, we're
going to end up there with you. And Lord, we're so thankful for
that. And Lord, I pray that you'd bless our service tonight. Give
us some things to see, some things to think about. Lord, help us
in this stuff. Lord, it's a wonderful time of
year coming up where you came to this world. Your first Advent,
as they say. and you chose to become a human
being and enter this world through the womb of the Virgin Mary,
and live down on this planet, and live in this mess for 33
and a half years, and offer the greatest sacrifice could ever
be offered for the sins of man, and rise again from the dead.
And Lord, we're looking forward to celebrating that time, not
in the way the world does, but a celebration of a God who loves
people, and was willing to come to this world to be their savior.
Lord, I pray you take this piece of dirt up here tonight and just
fill it with your spirit, your power, your passion, your words,
your wisdom. Lord, at any time, if you want to preach to us,
that'd be great. If you want to teach us, that would be great.
Lord, I do pray you'd minister to us tonight. I thank you in
Christ's name, amen. All right, let's see if I've
got anything up here. I went too far already. Go back. There we go. And I am going to
use my high-tech phone and turn this light off here. Cindy, how's
Walter doing? Better? Okay. It's always good
to be doing better. It's good to see the Sorensons
again. Glad to see you tonight. All right, we're gonna talk tonight
about the Messiah. I mean, that was the thing that
really Christmas is all about is the coming of God to this
world to be the promised savior to the Jewish people. We know
that all the Gentiles are in on this thing, but primarily
Messiah was the promise to the Jew. You say Messiah to the Gentiles
at that time, it's like, what are you talking about? You say
Messiah to the Jew, they knew exactly what you were talking
about. The sad thing is that he came into his own, the Bible
says, but his own received him not. And there's no reason why
they should have missed it. So we're gonna look tonight at
what we call identifying the Messiah, and if you've got Jewish
friends, it'd be good to take some notes. There's really some
simple, simple means of figuring out who Jesus Christ was, how
we know he was the Messiah. There's a lot of scripture verses,
a lot of prophecies he fulfilled, and sometimes that gets a little
intricate in trying to take that approach, but there's just, there's
a simple way of helping Jewish people understand who their Messiah
is. In fact, Itan Bar, who is a young evangelist to the Jews,
Jewish himself. wrote or quotes from Tractate
Sanhedrin 99a, which is a Jewish writing. And he says this, that
the Old Testament, this is Jewish mentality. The Old Testament
contains a complete ID kit so that the people of Israel can
recognize the Messiah, put their faith in him. Even the sages
admitted all the prophets prophesied until only towards the Messianic
era. So the Jews still goes by the
Old Testament to try to figure out who the Messiah is, and that's
an amazing thing. Because, what's the matter? I'm just standing in the way?
I must be getting bigger or something. Anyway, we're gonna move the
screen over there eventually, put that new screen up. But thank
you for your support, I appreciate that. She didn't say a word,
but I look on the face. I said, OK, something's going
on. Anyway, Tractate Sanhedrin 99A, right there. The Old Testament
contains a complete ID kit so that the people of Israel can
recognize the Messiah, put their faith in Him. Very simple thing.
And again, I said it's amazing that the Jews will still look
to the Old Testament. My opinion of Judaism today is
that they take an eclectic approach to their Old Testament. Say,
what does that mean? It's better if you understand this. They
take the salad bar approach to interpreting the Old Testament
or believing the Old Testament. Say, what does that mean? You
pick what you like and you just leave alone what you don't like.
And when the Jew looks at the Old Testament, he has to do some
things because When I say that, I mean he has to allegorize some
things. He has to spiritualize a lot of things. I mean, you
think about it. There are no sacrifices made
anywhere today in any temple anywhere in Israel or anywhere
else. And yet the Old Testament says if you're going to sacrifice,
if you're going to keep the Day of Atonement, if you're going to
keep the Passover, you've got to go to Jerusalem. That has
to be done in the temple. It has to be done by the priesthood.
What happens to that? So they look at that in their
Old Testament and say, well, you know, we're gonna have to do something
about that, so we either spiritualize it or ignore it. But they'll
still go to the Old Testament to look for their Messiah, and
that's good, that's good. So if we're gonna minister to
Jews, and I think the greatest thing in the world is when a
Jew comes to know Jesus Christ as their Savior. I think that's,
you know, it doesn't get any better than that. But there's
kind of a simple way to help a Jew understand who Jesus was. In Luke chapter 24 and verse
25, the Bible says, then he said unto them, O fools and slow of
heart to believe. Now this is Jesus speaking to the two disciples
on the road to Emmaus. This is after the resurrection.
He has changed his form or his visage to the point where they
don't recognize who he is. So he just joins up with them
as they're walking along. And they said, what are you guys
doing? And he said, haven't you heard of what's been going on
in Jerusalem? And he kind of plays kind of a, wrong way to
say it, but it kind of plays dumb to them. And finally he
lets them know that he knows some stuff. It says in verse
25, then he said unto them, O fools and slow of heart to believe
all that the prophets have spoken. And this probably took them back
a little bit, but he's trying to help them understand that
what happened in Jerusalem, all the prophets had spoken about
that. Verse 26, ought not Christ to have suffered these things
and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all
the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the
things concerning himself. So you find the Messiah in all
the scriptures. Brother Mario has preached that
a number of times. In Genesis, he is the? He's the
promise. In Exodus, he's the? Lamb, I'm
catching you off guard, aren't I? Passover lamb, but you can
go all through the Bible and there's Jesus Christ in every
book of the Bible. And so he expounds to them, the
Messiah has been there all the time. You've missed it, but he's
been there all the time. And continuing on in Luke, verse
44. It says, and he said unto them,
these are the words which I spake unto you while I was yet with
you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written
in the law of Moses, the prophets, and the Psalms concerning me.
Law and the Psalms and the prophets is a designation for the Old
Testament. Three divisions of the Old Testament, we've gone
through that before. So he's saying, I've been everywhere
in the Old Testament. Everything about me that happened to me,
that's going to happen to me and all that, he said it's in
the Old Testament. You just need to find it. Now, one of the first things that
we need to look at, and this is what Mario is referring to
as the promise, the first mention of Messiah, the first promise
of a Messiah is in Genesis chapter three and verse 15. This is after
Adam and Eve have sinned and he says to the serpent, and I
will put enmity between thee and the woman and between thy
seed and her seed, it shall bruise thy head, thou shalt bruise his
heel. He's referencing her seed. He says to her, the woman, you're
going to have a child and that child will fix this guy right
here. He'll do away with this guy right
there. The serpent will bruise his heel, but your seed will
bruise his head. You'll get the victory there.
So from that point on, every time Eve has a child in her mind,
she's thinking, is this the one? Little did she know that 4,000
years, almost 4,000 years were going to pass. But every time she had
a child or maybe one of her grandchildren, she was thinking, could this
be the promised seed? And that's the belief that continued
on. So from Adam, and Adam had a son by the name of Cain and
Abel. We know what Cain did to Abel.
And then to replace Abel, there was a son named Seth. He had
other sons and daughters according to Genesis 5, I believe it is.
But it was through Seth, that men began to call upon the Lord
again. And it was through Seth and Enos, his son, and Cainan,
and Mahaliel, and Jared, and Enoch, and Methuselah, and Lamech
that Noah was born. And so the seed, the promise
of Genesis 3 is gonna go all the way down here to a fellow
by the name of Noah. And Noah has three sons, Ham,
Shem, and Japheth. The seed is not gonna come through
any of the descendants of Cain or any place else. This is where
the promise of the seed is going to come. So now we're down to
one man by the name of Noah who has three sons. So it's one of
his three sons that the seed is gonna continue to go through. Time is interrupted by the flood,
but then after that you have again Shem, Japheth, and Ham,
and the seed is gonna make its way through, of those three boys,
the seed will make its way through Shem. Shem is the father of those
that live in the Middle East. Ham is the father of those that
live in Africa. Japheth, we would say, were the
father of the Europeans, but it's gonna be through Shem, and
then through Arphaxad, and Salem, and Eber, and Peleg, and Reho,
and Sirach, and Nahor, and Terah. How many remember who Terah was?
We talked about that when we studied the life of Abraham.
And from Terah, it is gonna come down to a fellow by the name
of Abraham. So we've watched the seed go
from a promise to Eve through a family that survived the flood
to one of their three children, now all the way to the father
of the Jewish race, Abraham. So if we didn't know anything
up to this point, here's what we know, Messiah's gonna be Jewish.
Okay, we're not gonna miss that. You say, well, we knew he was
Jewish. No, you didn't. You didn't know anything about Jewish up
here and with Seth or anything like that. Jewish didn't start
until right here. He could have, up to this point, it could have
been any nation. Well, it could have been any nation. It wouldn't
have been the Hamites. It wouldn't have been the Japhethites. It had to come through
here. Now we know, because of Abraham, that the Messiah has
to be Jewish. So we have the promise in Genesis
chapter three and verse 15. to Abraham in Genesis chapter
12. Genesis chapter 22 and verse 18, God says to Abraham, and
in thy seed, there's the seed again, in thy seed shall all
the nations of the earth be blessed because thou hast obeyed my voice.
Galatians chapter three and verse 16 gives us the interpretation
of that. It says, now to Abraham and his seed where the promise
is made. He saith not unto seeds as of many, but as of one, and
to thy seed. And Paul says, and that seed
is Christ. So here comes the seed from Eve all the way through
now to Abraham, and Abraham is given that promise. Still bringing
forth the seed. Then you have Abraham's seed,
which is Isaac. Isaac is a perfect type of Christ.
We've talked about that before. The sacrifice that Abraham almost
made of Isaac is a real good picture of what Christ went through
for us. Genesis 21 verse 12, it says,
and an Isaac shall thy seed be called. So we've gone from Abraham
now to Isaac. Matthew chapter one and verse
two, Abraham begat Isaac. So we're aware of that. So the
promise of God in Genesis down to Abraham, through Abraham. Now Abraham has two sons at the
beginning, Ishmael and Isaac. But we know it's not going to
be through Ishmael because God had already said to Isaac, the
seed's going to come through you. So now we've got Abraham,
Isaac. Then we look at Numbers 24, verse
17. He said, I shall see him, but
not now. I shall behold him, but not nigh. There shall come
a star out of Jacob, and a scepter shall rise out of Israel. So
you've got Abraham, Isaac, now you've got Jacob. So there were
other, again, other children born, but the seed is gonna come
through Jacob. And Matthew 1, verse 2, Isaac
begat Jacob. So we go back here again, and of the two sons of
Isaac, Esau and Jacob, the seed is gonna go through Jacob. And we're gonna narrow this down
more. Genesis 49 verse 10 says this, the scepter shall not depart
from Judah. Now we've not heard of Judah
up to this point. The scepter shall not depart from Judah nor
a lawgiver from between his feet until Shiloh come." Now that's
a very interesting prophecy. That's a time-sensitive prophecy,
if you will. Notice he said, the lawgiver
shall, the scepter shall not depart from Judah nor a lawgiver
from between his feet until Shiloh come. In other words, the Jews
will be ruling themselves. Now, they'll be ruled by the
Romans and all that, but they still have some aspect of self-rule. And notice he said that that'll
not change. Shiloh will come in that situation. Well, who
is Shiloh? You say, well, Shiloh was a city.
Well, it was a city, but many of the Jewish interpreters will
interpret Shiloh as being Messiah. And so what they're saying is
Messiah shall not come until the scepter departs and the lawgiver
departs from Judah. When did that happen? When did that happen? Pardon
me? I'm not hearing what you're saying. No, that's not when the scepter
departed from Israel. Technically, you could say yeah.
And the temple, the veil in the temple was written and all that.
But I'm saying politically, when did Israel stop being able to
govern themselves to an extent? Joe? Well, no. No, because they did
come back and they did rule themselves. You're right. They did lose it
for a while, but they came back. What's the other time? AD 70. And at that point, they're going
to lose it pretty much for good. So that's a time-sensitive prophecy. The point is, it says Judah.
So you've got Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. Jacob has 12 sons, and
one of them is named Judah. The Targum pseudo-Jonathan, another
Jewish writing, says this about Messiah, how noble is the king,
Messiah, who is going to rise from the house of Judah. So the
Jews know that Messiah had to come from Judah. So we've gone
a long way. We've gone from Eve to a promise
her seed there, to Noah, to Shem, to Terah, to Abraham, Isaac,
Jacob, now Judah. So we're tracing this seed right
on through there. It's starting to narrow things
down, isn't it? I mean, yeah, he was going to
be a Jew under Abraham, but there's a lot of people born of that.
Where's the seed going to go? It's going to go to Isaac, not
Ishmael. It's going to go to Jacob, not Esau. Of the 12, it's going
to go to only one, and that's Judah. Isaiah 11, verse 1. There shall come forth a rod
out of the stem of Jesse, and a branch shall grow out of his
roots. Isaiah 11 verse 10. And in that day there shall be
a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people.
To it shall the Gentiles seek, and the rest shall be glorious.
So now we're dealing with a family within the tribe of Judah, and
that family is the family of Jesse. So you look at the You
look at the breakdown again, from God to Abraham, to Isaac,
to Jacob, all the way into Judah. And of the tribe of Judah, of
the families that are in Judah, we have the family line of Jesse.
So we're narrowing it down some more. And so as we continue to
look at this, of the line of Jesse, how many sons did Jesse
have? Samuel went to his house, he's looking for the king. He
went through how many sons before he found the one? Okay, there was Eliab, Abinadab,
Shimea, Nethanel, Radai, Ozem, possibly this one right here,
Elihu, and there's one more, and that's David. So you cross all those out, and
you have David. So we've come all the way from
Eve after being kicked out of the garden, the promise of the
seed there, we've come all the way through there, we've come
all the way through the family of Seth, all the way to Noah,
then through Shem, then to Terah, then to Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,
Judah. Now we're at the family of Jesse,
and of all the sons Jesse had, the seed is gonna come through
David. How can we miss this? How could anybody miss this?
I mean, it's pretty clear the direction that it's going and
who it's gonna come through. Jeremiah 23, verse five says
this. Behold, the day is come, saith the Lord, that I will raise
unto David a righteous branch, and a king shall reign and prosper
and shall execute judgment and justice on the earth. Notice
again, unto David, David. So the seed is gonna come through
David. Matthew 22, verses 41 and 42,
when Jesus is dealing with the Pharisees, He asks them a question. He asks them a question, well,
who do you think Christ is? Whose son is He? And it says
in Matthew 22 verse 41, while the Pharisees were gathered together,
Jesus asked them saying, what think ye of Christ, whose son
is he? And they said unto him, he's the son of David. So at
the time of Christ, the Jews knew where the Messiah would
have to come through and he's going to have to come through
the son of David. So all the way from Eve all the
way through Noah, and through Shem, and through Abraham, Isaac,
and Jacob, through the family of Jesse, through the son of
David, the seed has got to come through David. They knew that,
and Jesus had said that. So, in Revelation 22 and verse
16, in case you missed it, Jesus said, I have sent mine angel
to testify unto you of the things in the churches. I am the root
and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
So he says, I'm the son of David. All right? So again, we've traced
that thing all the way through. You look at the genealogy of
Jesus, and there you see at the beginning, God, Adam, Seth, right
on through, Abraham, and then you've got David. Now, this is
where it gets a little confusing. It's confusing because of our
ignorance of the genealogical process that they did in the
first century. But here's the basic breakdown. You have Mary
and you have Joseph. And if you've read the genealogies,
you'll know that things change at a certain point. By the time
you get, you got Boaz, Obed, Jesse, David. David has a few
sons. Two in particular, one named
Solomon and one named Nathan. Mary's genealogy. will come through
Solomon, who is the son of David. So that comes down to here. This
Joseph, by the way, is not the husband of Mary. This is the
father of Mary, the grandfather of Jesus. Then you have this
genealogy over here that I believe Luke gives us, that takes us
from Nathan all the way through till you get down to here. That's
Joseph's genealogy. The husband of Mary, the adoptive
father of Jesus Christ, who is Joseph. So you have two genealogies,
there's a reason for that, we've gone over that, we'll probably
go over it again, but it's not December yet, so we can't go
over that yet, it can only do that stuff in December. But anyway,
they all fit together, it fits together perfectly, that Jesus
Christ is the son of David. All right, so we know that. Now
let me ask you a question, is there anybody after him, anybody
today that could claim that same thing? You know, the Jews don't even
have their genealogical records anymore, most of it. And some
guy could show up and say, you know, I'm a son of David. Well,
can you prove that? Well, they could, they had the
charts, they had the genealogical stuff. So really, there's nobody
today that could make this claim, but we have some help in understanding
that stuff. Not only do we know the family
tree, Not only do we know the family line, that from Eve all
the way on through David, all the way to Jesus Christ. Not
only do we know that, we know the place of his birth. And so
the Bible tells us, Micah chapter five and verse two, it says,
but thou Bethlehem Ephrathah, though thou be little among the
thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall come forth unto me,
that is to be ruler in Israel, whose going forth have been of
old from everlasting. We know where Jesus was born.
That helps. We know he was born in Bethlehem.
Where is Bethlehem? Give me the general place where
Bethlehem is. Pardon me? Judah. That's where Bethlehem's in Judah.
All right, that fits. Everything works together there.
Here's a prophecy in Micah chapter five and verse two, and it says,
though they'll be little among the thousands, Bethlehem was
not a thriving metropolis. I mean, if you take a look at
the map, there's Israel right there. There's Bethlehem or Judah
right there, and then in that area, you have Bethlehem, right
there. Jerusalem is up here, Bethlehem
is right here. Of all the cities that were in that area, there's
only one city that's gonna fit, and that's Bethlehem. And somebody
in Bethlehem, Bethlehem is in Judah, so somebody of the tribe
of Judah, of the family of Jesse, of the son of David, has to be
born in the city of Bethlehem. And then the key thing is the
timing. The time of His coming. Now we
went through Daniel 70 weeks, a couple weeks ago. Don't have
to go through that again. I hope you remember some of it.
But Daniel 9 gives us, again, the exact time. Genesis 49, again,
the scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from
between his feet until Shiloh come, and unto him shall the
gathering of the people be, binding his fold on the vine, his asses
colt unto the choice vine, he washed his garments in wine,
his clothes in the blood of grapes. In reference to the second coming,
the last part of that. But the first part again, the
scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor the lawgiver from
between his feet until Shiloh come. So the Jews were, in a
sense, self-ruling. They had their religious leaders
and all that, and they governed themselves as long as they didn't
cross the Roman government. They governed themselves. And
it would be that way until Jesus Christ shows up, and then after
he shows up, God gives them 40 years to get the thing right,
40 years to repent, and they didn't do anything. And so at
AD 70, Titus and the Roman legions come in and destroy it. But we
have the time. Malachi chapter three and verse
one. Behold, I will send my messenger and he shall prepare the way
before me and the Lord whom he seeks shall suddenly come to
his temple. Even the messenger of the covenant whom he delight
in. Behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts. He shall suddenly
come to his temple. When did he do that? Palm Sunday, I think is what
we call it. He came to his temple on Palm Sunday. What does this
prove right here? Time-wise, that there has to
be, if he's suddenly gonna come to
his temple, what does there have to be? A temple. The temple was
destroyed in AD 70. So the timing of this thing is
pretty well narrowed down. When you go to Daniel chapter
nine, again, we've gone through this a couple of weeks ago. Know
therefore and understand that from the going forth of the commandment
to restore and to build Jerusalem. Does anybody remember the date
of that? 444, 445 BC. And remember there
are 483 years and we did the math down to the days and the
solar years and all that stuff. From the commandment of the going
forth to restore and to build Jerusalem unto Messiah the Prince
shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks the street shall
be built again, the wall even in troublesome times. And so
when you take the amount of time, you go to the prophetic week,
we came up with Jesus Christ being crucified around 30, 31
AD. After threescore and two weeks
shall the Messiah be cut off but not for himself, in other
words he'll be put to death, but he's not dying for himself.
And the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy
the city and the sanctuary, and the end thereof shall be a flood,
and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. Verse 27. And this is talking
about the last week. He shall confirm the covenant
with many for one week, and in the midst of the week, he shall
cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease, and for the overspreading
of abominations, he shall make it desolate even until the consummation,
and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. All
that means is this, that last week is the tribulation week. 483 years have gone by. At the
end of that, Jesus Christ shows up. It was around AD 31, AD 32. depending on what calendar you
use and how you do that figuring. But let me ask you this, who
else could it have been? Who else could it have been that
went through the nation of Israel, I mean all promised all the way
back from Eve, ends up going through Abraham, Isaac, Jacob,
Judah, of the families of Judah, Jesse, the sons of Jesse, David,
David shows up, Jesus Christ referred to as the son of David,
born in a city where it says exactly where he's supposed to
be born at a time when it only can be him. So again, I don't
know how the Jews miss this because it's pretty clear. There's the
70 weeks again. We've talked about that. I'm
not going to go through it again. But it clearly sets the time
for when Christ was supposed to be crucified. Alfred Eidersheim,
a very interesting guy, he listed 456 specific prophecies of Christ's
first coming. And there are that many. A lot
of prophecies concerning Christ. And so a fellow by the name of
Peter Stoner decided to, and he's a mathematician, decided
to do the calculating. He was into, I'm trying to remember
the term right off hand, It'll come to me. Anyway, Peter
Stoner was the Chairman of the Department of Mathematics and
Astronomy at Pasadena City College until 1953. He was the Chairman of the Science
Division at Westmont College, 1953 to 1957. He's a Professor Emeritus of
Science at Westmont College, Professor Emeritus of Mathematics
and Astronomy at Pasadena City College. So this is not just
some average guy. This guy is a pretty smart cookie. And what Mr. Stoner did was to
begin to do some estimating. The estimates were worked out
by 12 different classes representing some 600 university students.
They said, what is he estimating? He's taking the prophecy probability.
That's a word I couldn't get. He's taking the prophecies. He
said the 456 that Irishman talked about, no, he's gonna take eight,
and then he's gonna take a few more. But he's taking these prophecies
and he's trying to figure out the probability of them all happening
and coming true at the same time. And he's using some 600 university
students. So this is not something he's
just cooking up in his office. The students carefully weighed
all the factors, discussed each prophecy at length, and examined
the various circumstances which might indicate that men had conspired
together to fulfill a particular prophecy. They made their estimates
conservative enough so that there was finally unanimous agreement
even amongst the most skeptical students. However, Professor
Stoner then took their estimates and made them even more conservative.
So he's cutting it down as much as he can. He also encouraged other skeptics
or scientists to make their own estimates to see if his conclusions
were more than fair. So they take what they've come
up with, take it from some guys that are skeptics or some guys
that maybe let's just say are not religious, and says, here's
what I've come up with. See if you can take it apart.
See if you can refute this, basically. He submitted his figures for
review to a committee of the American Scientific Affiliation,
Upon examination, they verified that his calculations were dependable
and accurate in regard to the scientific material presented.
So again, this stuff has been viewed and reviewed and reviewed
by people that we would say maybe be hostile witnesses, that would
be opposed to the idea of what he's putting together. They're
looking at the way he figured it out. They're looking at the
math, they're looking at the science. They're looking at all that.
The American Scientific Affiliation, a very important body as far
as this stuff is concerned, they examined it and they came to
the conclusion, whether they agreed with it or not, they came
to the conclusion that he is dependable and accurate in his
findings. Okay. Let's see what they found
out. He took eight specific prophecies. Now remember, Eidersheim found
456. He said, let's just take eight. For Christ to fulfill just eight
of those prophecies is one times 10 to the 17th power, which means
it's 10 with 17 zeros behind it. Those are pretty high odds. The number would kind of look
like that. And the only place anybody uses a number like that
is in our Congress and Senate and Washington, that's gonna
be our future cap and whatever, debt ceiling. But that's one
times 10 to the 17th power. That's a big number. What he's
saying is the odds are one in that number right there for Christ
to be able to fulfill all eight of these prophecies at the same
time. So the illustration he comes up with is this. If you
take the state of Texas, now Texas is a big state. I have
driven through Texas. It's when you enter into a state
and the mile marker says 740 some miles, you're thinking,
what in the world am I getting into here? And when you drive
into a state, you know, driving my bus, my motor coach, what
have you, and you find a place to spend the night and you wake
up the next morning and say, where are we? We're still in Texas.
You've been familiar with that. Texas is a big state. Especially
once you get past San Antonio, there really isn't too much.
And I remember one year we had left Corpus Christi, Texas. We
had been with Willard Welder. We had left there and we're traveling,
trying to get through Texas, and it's midnight. It's New Year's
Eve, midnight, in the western Texas. And so I found a rest
area. I thought, we'll rest here, you
know, and we'll come out and we'll see if these fireworks
going up and all that stuff, you know, we'll hear the guns.
Absolutely nothing. As far as the eye could see,
I could see absolutely nothing. You didn't hear anything, you
didn't see anything, and I'm thinking, wow, we're in another
world here. This is beyond imagination. Texas is a big brown state for
the most part. Stoner said this, let's take
silver dollars and let's cover the state of Texas with silver
dollars. Three feet deep, three feet deep, the entire state of
Texas with silver dollars three feet deep. Let's take one silver
dollar, let's mark it, either color it a different color or
what have you, and let's throw it in with all these other silver
dollars, let's stir them all up. Then let's fly a guy in over
Texas blindfolded, let's drop him in, and let's see if he can
find that one marked silver dollar blindfolded the very first time
he reaches down and picks up a silver dollar. The odds of
him doing that are the odds of Jesus Christ fulfilling not 456
prophecies, just eight of them. That's impressive. But he goes
beyond that. He's gonna look at 48 specific
prophecies, which is one times 10 to the 157th power. Okay, I have no imagination of
what that would be like. I did this, here it is. I counted
all those zeros myself too. That's the number. Let's hope
Washington never understands that there's a number that big.
That's the number. One times 10 to the 157th power.
So, 48 specific prophecies, he changes the illustration. It's
not the state of Texas anymore. It's not silver dollars anymore.
He says let's just take all the electrons in the universe. And
there's probably not as many electrons in the universe as
there was in that number. But he said, let's take all the
electrons in the universe. Let's take one electron and let's
color it. And let's throw it in with all
the other electrons. And let's take a man blindfolded and have
him reach into all those electrons and pick out the colored one
the very first try. What's the odds of that? One
times 10 to the 157th power. 48 specific prophecies that Jesus
Christ fulfilled. That's the odds. He fulfilled
over 400 prophecies when he came the first time. There's a fellow by the name
of Borel or Borel, Emile Borel, French mathematician. Very famous for being a mathematician
and a fellow that did things about probability. He said this, he said events
with a probability on the scale of one times 10 to the 50 will
not happen. One times 10 to the 50th power
will not happen. Say preacher, there's a chance
that anything can happen. He says by the time you get to
one times 10 to the 50, if that's 10 to the 50 zeros after it,
it ain't gonna happen. That's a law of probability.
It's not gonna happen. The sort of event, which though
it's impossibility may not be rationally demonstrable is, however,
so unlikely that no sensible person, and there's the problem.
No sensible person. The people that reject Jesus
Christ and the people that reject the Bible, when given evidence,
say what's their problem? They're not sensible. What's
their problem? Their problem is they love their
sin and they hate Jesus Christ. The Bible says, a fool has said
in his heart there is no God. They are corrupt. They have done
abominable works. They don't seek after God. That's the problem
with atheism. They want to sin. They've got, we all have the
evil nature. They want to live in their evil
nature. They want to fulfill their evil desires and all that
stuff. And they don't want God being involved in any part of
it. So they don't, they're not atheists because they have some
scientific evidence. They may think they have a little
bit here and a little bit there, but in reality they have no scientific
evidence that God doesn't exist. They have no scientific evidence
that Jesus Christ never showed up on this planet. They have
no scientific evidence that what's written in this book is wrong. They just hate God. They love
their sin and they hate God. And when you're in that condition,
you've lost your senses. A reasonable person would look
at what I just showed you, what Peter Stoner had come up with.
A reasonable, sensible person would look at that and say, you
know what? You got something there. There's something about that.
And you found all that in the Bible? All that's in the Bible.
You know what? There must be something about
that Bible. There must be something about this fellow named Jesus
Christ. Maybe I need to examine that. Maybe I need to check that
out. However, so unlikely that no
sensible person will hesitate to declare it actually impossible. If someone affirmed having observed
such an event, we would be sure that he is deceiving us or has
himself been the victim of a fraud. That's the man who dealt with
probabilities most of his life. In dealing with the Jews, I said
when I started out, there's a lot of different prophecies. We just
looked at 48 prophecies. Why don't we just sit down with
Jewish people and go through all 48? Well, you can do that
if you like. Or go through eight of them. You can do that if you
like. But in reality, there's only three issues that you need
to deal with the Jews about. Just three issues. We've already
discussed one of them. That's the time. That's where
I would begin in Daniel chapter 9. We talked about that when
we went through the 70th week. You said, well, the Jewish people
say he's a minor prophet. What's a minor prophet? The prophets
are not, you know, single A, double A, triple A, the majors.
That's not the way it worked. Yes, if a man received a prophecy
from God, he was a prophet. Isaiah had 66 chapters, Jeremiah
had a whole mess of chapters, 53 I think it was. Those are
big, those are major prophecies. Then you got Daniel, Hosea, Joel,
Amos, Obadiah, Jonah, Micah, Nehemiah, Bacchus, Zephaniah,
Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi. These are the smaller books of prophecy. That's why they would be considered
minor. But does it make a difference? If God gives a man a prophecy,
does it matter if his book has three chapters or 103 chapters? Does it matter? It's still a
prophecy from God. If he's been proven to be a prophet
of God, he's a prophet of God. What he says is from God. What
difference does it make if he doesn't have a big book, if he's
just a small book? What difference does it make?
The Jews will say, well, we don't think the dating is right on
that. We think Daniel was probably written about 200 BC. Okay, 200 years before it happened. That's pretty good. You prophesize
something 200 years before it's going to happen. What difference
does that make? What difference does it make
if he prophesied it 50 years before it happened? Of course,
we know he didn't. But we have the time. Time is pretty clear. Another thing about Messiah.
The Jews have been waiting for Messiah. all the way from Eve,
all the way through. They've been waiting for Messiah
to come. But what did Isaiah say in Isaiah chapter 53 about
Messiah? This is mind-boggling. The Jews
wanted Messiah to come. They couldn't wait till the Messiah
came. Their hope was in Messiah. And when he comes, he was despised
and rejected of men, a man of sorrows, acquainted with grief.
We hear that's where our face is from. He was bruised for our
iniquities. The chastisement of our peace
was upon Him. Listen, when He came, they rejected Him. Does
that make sense? Somebody you've been waiting
for for thousands of years, or at least hundreds of years, you've
been waiting for this man to show up, and when He shows up,
you reject Him. Does that make any sense? It
doesn't make any sense. But that's what happened. So
we know when Messiah was supposed to come. We know that when He
did come, He would be rejected of His own people. And then thirdly,
according to Isaiah 42, we know he would have a large Gentile
following. So we know the time, we know
the Jews rejected him, but we know he has a large Gentile following. Now show me somebody else that
would fit all that stuff. It's not hard to figure out who
the Messiah is. So if you sit down with your Jewish friends,
I would go over and deal with the time thing, Daniel chapter nine,
so explain this to me. And then explain to me why you
rejected him when he did come. He was cut off, but not for himself,
is what Daniel said. Explain why you rejected him.
We've been going through Sunday school on Sunday mornings, and
we're at the part now where he had been tried by the elders
of Judaism, and then they're dragging him over to Pilate,
and Pilate's dealing with him and all that, and you just see
manifest rejection of Jesus Christ. which again is an amazing thing.
I've preached on the street a number of times asking this question,
what fault do you find with Jesus Christ? You preach to a large
crowd and they're doing whatever they're doing and what have you,
and the question I've preached is what, show me something wrong
with Jesus Christ. And I've never had anybody come
up to me and give me a list. I said, show me something wrong
with Jesus Christ. One thing, one thing wrong with
Jesus Christ. And I've said this, I can find
something wrong with him. I think he loves sinners too much. But try to show me, show me one
thing wrong with Jesus Christ. Here's this Jewish population
who's seen him heal every day. He was ministering every day,
from morning till night, healing people, delivering people from
demonic oppression, giving sight to the blind, hearing to the
deaf, cleansing the lepers, and then the next day it starts all
over again, day after day after day after day after day after
day. That's what they've seen. They've heard him preach, the
common people heard him gladly, and yet it was the religious
leaders that rejected him. But he ends up with a large Gentile
following. Explain that one to me. How in
the world do you come up with a large Gentile following? You
came to a nation called Israel in the middle of the Middle East,
and now there are people in Papua New Guinea, Australia, the Amazon,
China, Korea, Russia, England, all following this Jewish Messiah
that showed up 2,000 years ago. Could you explain that one to
me? So three things, if you have a Jewish friend, three things.
Deal with the time of his coming, the fact that it was rejected
by his people, and he's got a large Gentile following to this day.
There's no other sensible explanation other than Jesus Christ is exactly
who he said he was. He is God manifest in the flesh.
He is the Messiah. He is the Son of God. His name
is Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins. And this
December again, we will celebrate the fact that our loving God
in heaven did not turn His back on us when our first parents
sinned in the garden. but came to their rescue and
has always been the plan of God to come to the rescue of a bunch
of sinners like us. And 2,000 years ago, he died
on the cross, shed his blood to pay for sins, rose again the
third day from the dead, and now offers to any person that
wills a free gift of eternal life. That's what this holiday
is all about. And it's a sad thing that the
Jews miss that. Any questions? Any questions
or comments? You know, when God does something,
he doesn't mess around. Notice one thing, none of this
stuff is by accident. I mean, he's got everything laid out
perfectly the way it should be. Everything, he's under control.
Yes, everything, he's got everything under control. Yes? That's the sad part about the
future of us trying to win as many as we can. Right, right.
It's going to be a serious persecution. Right, right. Yep. We support
a couple of missionaries that deal with Jews in Israel. I'm not from around here, as
you know. I've only been here about four
years. I don't know what the Jewish population is in Phoenix. I know
there's a large mosque by ASU, and there's somewhat of a large
Muslim population, but I'm not sure about the Jewish population.
Yes, sir? Andrew lives in New York in a
small town, and he goes up there, and all of where he's at is all
Hasidic Jews. Hasidic Jews, yep. And he said
they absolutely despise It's a shame. Anybody else? All right, well, we'll just be
dismissed in prayer. And don't forget, Tuesday night, everybody's
bringing pecan pie, and maybe sugar-free would be really good.
Lots of Cool Whip and all that, and we'll have our prayer and
praise. You know I'm kidding, right? Well, kind of. You can
bring blueberry, I like that too. So, yes sir, Joe. Well, it's sugar free. I mean,
they're using substitute, the fake sugar. No, no. You're getting too technical.
You know, let's just leave it what it is. Anyway. All right,
so Tuesday night, and just trust and pray you all have a great
Thanksgiving. Don't forget to try to make some contact with
Barb, send a card or something, and my wife and I are gonna head
out there sometime tomorrow and visit a little bit, but keep
them in your prayers. All right, Father, we thank you
for your word. We thank you for the Lord Jesus
Christ. You made it so clear, your entrance
into this world and how it was predicted all the way back from
the beginning. And you made it so clear that nobody could make
the mistake. We know who you are. We know where you came in
at. We know you're the Messiah. Our heart's prayer goes out to
the Jewish people, Lord, whose eyes at this point are still
closed to this truth. And Lord, we just pray that you
would... And again, Lord, I don't know
what's going on in Phoenix or Mesa or what have you, but Lord,
I just pray that you would reach the Jewish population in this
area with the truth, especially this time of year, with the truth
of Jesus Christ. Lord, thank you again for your
goodness and grace. Bless us again, Lord, as we come
back Tuesday. And just thank you for being
such a wonderful God. We ask this all in Christ's name.
Amen. All right, you are dismissed.
Identifying The Messiah
This message goes through the genealogy of the messiah along with the time and place of his coming.
| Sermon ID | 112221229416481 |
| Duration | 53:24 |
| Date | |
| Category | Sunday - PM |
| Bible Text | Genesis 3:15 |
| Language | English |
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