The following program is recorded content created by The Truth Network. It's Matt Slick Live! Matt is the founder and president of the Christian Apologetics Research Ministry, found online at calm.org. When you have questions about Bible doctrines, turn to Matt Slick Live for answers. Taking your calls and responding to your questions at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Hey everybody, welcome to the show. It's me, Matt Slick, and you're listening to Matt Slick Live. As usual, if you want to give me a call, it's easy. The number is 877-207-2276. And so there you go. All right. Now, if you want to email me, you can do the same thing. Just direct an email to info at carm.org, info at C-A-R-M dot O-R-G. Put in a subject line, radio comment, or radio question, and we can get to you. All right, now, so Saturday was the 30-year anniversary of the CARM website. I started it October 25, 1995, and we had the release of the site on Saturday. And you guys can go check it out now. It is very fast. It is very secure. And it has stuff in it that you won't even become aware of, of how secure it is and how it doesn't intrude on your computer and how it doesn't extract information from you. It's very good. We're going to be expanding it over the next year in varying areas and options. We want other ministries to become involved with us and the new technology that we're using which makes things very secure and very, very, very difficult to hack. We are in a completely new system and it is housed inside of Cloudflare, which is a multi-billion dollar organization work and they provide a lot of super sophisticated, highly detailed, very secure software and we have built the new CARM site on it. And it's not on WordPress. It's not straight HTML. It's the way it has HTML and CSS. But it's really a secure site. But anyway, you can go check it out. And I am kind of curious to see the feedback anyone might have on it. If you want to call up and say you don't really like it or don't like it or where's this or where's that. And there is a feedback button in the upper area, a little menu that's there, feedback. So you can put in whatever feedback you want, you like, you don't like, a broken this or broken that. Because whenever you move a site from one platform to another, there's always issues. It's just how it is. And we've already found a few minor stuff, and I'm working on one now to fix a minor something. It's just not a big deal, but it's 99.9% great. And those of us who work behind the scenes with it are finding a little this and that. It's not the programmer's fault, it's just the nature of moving things over, duplicate files, incomplete files, just stuff. And they're surfacing, and just a very few of them. It's really good. We have the menu still, but you have to find it. It's in the upper area. It just says menu. You click it. You can go down and you can see the articles and the second-level pages, we call them, and everything's still there. But the main focus is the use of the search engine, which is so fast. I keep saying it because it is. And before with the old Karm site, it was a different search. There were two problems we had. One, if we really wanted to use a good search engine, Google had a way of doing that. It could go in and map the entire site, but it would produce ads, paid ads, and we didn't want any of that stuff. It would produce ads from other ministries, and a lot of them were bad ministries, and that's why we didn't want that. And so we couldn't do that, so we had to go with a third-party search engine, and it just wasn't that good. So this is the best of both worlds. And, oh, it's good. It's vectorized. It's got all kinds of bells and whistles to it. There's a lot of good features on it. I'd like to hear from you, see what you think. Anyway, let's get to Elijah from Pennsylvania. Elijah, welcome. You are on the air. Hey, Matt. A new atheist that I found on YouTube, um, he, he has shown his face on the line, uh, call show that I told you about last week. And I found a YouTube channel and one of his recent live streams, uh, he, uh, had a discussion with, uh, a female Christian and he brought up several, several alleged contradictions in the Bible. and um... before i get to my question what what you notice that he said that he is he's willing to have anybody to come on the show uh... from from uh... but the regular christian all the way up to a pastor or bishop or even the pope himself if you want to if you want to have a call call in and you know i have a discussion term uh... he's actually very very respectful he didn't he didn't disrespect a woman at all. He just has one rule that, uh, that, uh, that you don't, you don't talk over him and he won't talk over you. Well, that's nice. Why don't you send me, if you would send me those contradictions that he says, if you could send him the info at karma.org and find them, because then I can research them. And if they don't have an answer already, you can write answers. Okay. Yeah. I, I, um, uh, earlier today, a few hours ago, I did, I did send you the video to your, uh, to your email, but I did, I did, huh? I saw it, yeah. I watched about three minutes of it, and because I got so many things going, because I'm going to Europe next, or going to Jordan next week, so there's a lot of stuff going on, but I'm trying to schedule in, still doing things and writing stuff, but yeah, his initial question motivated me to start writing an article on the necessity of the Christian faith, but at any rate, I am interested in, and I didn't watch the whole thing, but if you could just extract out of it the alleged contradictions, I would like to have those. I did write a few down here in my notes on my phone to ask you. So I guess I'll start with this one. He said that Mark misquoted the prophecy in Mark 1-2. So in Mark 1, 2, that prophecy is found... So Mark says that he's quoting the prophet Isaiah, but in Mark 1, 2, that prophecy is from Malachi, I think. Malachi 3, 1, and then in verse 3 is where he actually quotes Isaiah from, I think, Isaiah 40, verse 3. And so his objection is that the author of Mark was confused and didn't realize that verse 2, that prophecy isn't found in Isaiah, it's found in Malachi, and he says that's an error on that author's part. It's an error if the understanding is that it had to be specific to a book. A lot of times what the Jews would do is use a major prophet as representing all the other prophets just to speak quickly. And that's what probably is the case there. Okay? Okay. Um, let's see the next one. Um, okay. So he says in Deuteronomy 22, 20 through 21, he says that, uh, he said that it says that women should be stoned to death if they did, if they do not bleed on their first time having sex with their husbands, because, um, uh, he says that, uh, the idea is that, If a woman bleeds the first time they have sex, then that means they lost their virginity. And he says that this is wrong because it's known that over, it's known that about 50% of women don't bleed on the first time that they have sex. And he said that even back then that the ancient Jewish rabbis, early Greeks and early Romans, even they knew about it and he said that we have documentation that even women that didn't bleed on their first time. So he said a lot of the women that have gotten sown under Old Testament law would have been innocent if that was the case because they don't always bleed on their first sex act. Yeah, that one I have to research, because I'm looking at the text, Deuteronomy 22, 20 through 22. But if the charge is true and the girl has not found a virgin, if she's found that she's not a virgin, let's see, look at what's coming before. Okay, then they shall bring her to the doorway, the father, and said he had stoned her to death because she committed an act of folly, played in the harlot, okay. And I don't see anything about the issue of bleeding. There so I'm curious about that Why that I guess I guess I guess what he's trying to say that the thing about the bleeding I guess is the only real way that you can You can know for sure if a woman is a virgin. That's not true. That's not true. Like you said, sometimes it just doesn't happen that way. And so I'm sure they had other ways that they could find out if it was known that she was messing around. That's what it says. The charge is true that the girl was found, not found a virgin. that means she's fooling around. And so what does it mean that the charge is true and how is it that she's found? So in a case like that it would require just studying it to see literally what's going on and if the idea of a contradiction is there or not. Sometimes what people will do, the atheists will do, is they'll say, well it's just morally wrong to do that. And I love it when they say that because I say, and who are you to say that it's right or wrong morally? You have no standard. You can't judge another culture by your own. It's called ethnocentricity. And you don't have a universal standard of morality by which you can say it's right or wrong. The best that an atheist can do is try and show internal contradictions in the Bible. I've only found one issue of the Bible I've not been able to solve. Just one. I forgot what it was. Had to do with a time frame with a fig tree and something. That was years ago. But now I'm able to solve it. So that's it. I don't see anything in that text that requires that, the issue of blood and stuff like that. So what's the next one? The next one I didn't write down, but I do remember off the top of my head. Um, he had brought up, I think Jeremiah 31, but then he went to, I think it was Matthew two 17, two 17 to 19. If I remember correctly. And he was saying that Matthew was trying to say that this was a, I think a prophecy or connection to Jesus. And he said it actually wasn't, and he said that Matthew was wrong, because the thing in Jeremiah 31, I think the chapter was, where it wasn't actually talking about Jesus, it was talking about something completely different. I don't remember the exact verse. I would have to find the timestamp. A voice was heard in Ramah weeping great mourning, Rachel weeping with her children, and she refused to be comforted because they were no more. And this is that they went to Egypt. Or the killing of the unborn. Sorry, I'm reading and talking at the same time. So Herod is when Herod killed them. And he's saying that that's not about Okay, so yeah, Jeremiah 31 15 is what he's referring to and One of the principles that people misunderstand that this is supposed to be from the Christian perspective the Holy Spirit Demonstrating this he hasn't doesn't have a right to say that's not what it's about The Holy Spirit has the right to say this is what it's about And so this is an internal critique. So if he wants to say that it's not true, he doesn't have a ground from an internal perspective. He has nothing to stand on, absolutely nothing. If he wants to go on an external critique, it's a whole different categorization problem that he's got. So the criticism isn't good. So Jeremiah 31.15 is quoted by Matthew, Matthew 2.17 and 19 and the context of Jeremiah apparently is a different context, not about what it's used for. Well, that's irrelevant to what he wants to imply and assert because internal consistency means the Holy Spirit did apply it that way and that's how we understand it. He can say he doesn't agree, but that doesn't mean anything. It's a useless argument. We've got a break, so hold on, buddy. We've got another one. I want to hear it after the break, okay? So hold on. Hey, folks, if you want to give me a call, the number's 877-207-2276. Be right back. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, everyone, welcome back to the show. Let's get back on with Elijah from Pennsylvania. Welcome. You're back on, buddy. You got some more? Yep. I remember, I think I remember one more. He had, what did he say? he had said that uh... jesus he called he called jesus a liar and a fraud and uh... he claimed that uh... jesus didn't fulfill uh... any prophecy but uh... he didn't go into like great detail about why he thinks that so i would have to i guess find a video of him going into detail about that or or like uh... like i guess if you were to ever talk to him you could talk to him about that but um... Yeah, I'm trying to remember, what was the other thing he said? He said something. He said that he doesn't believe that the resurrection happened because there's no sufficient evidence. And he said that he believes like the one person, one of the apostles that claimed that he thought he was from the day he said that uh... he said that it was a imposter claiming to be Jesus. And then he went back and told the apostles and the apostles believed it because they, I guess, wanted, wanted to feel better about him being back then still being dead. Something like that. Yeah. That's a dumb one. I mean, sorry, that's not a very good, it's just not a very good, uh, it doesn't account for all kinds of, of issues. Um, yeah, it's not a very good argument. Okay. So tell you what, we'll go through that so you can find out what contradictions that they claim. A lot of times what their claims are are just subjective opinions. I love to discuss morality with them, but I'm developing an article on the necessity, well, let me put it this way, why the Christian world views the right one. And I'm doing it in an interesting way. And maybe when I talk to someone like him or some other atheists, we can go through some of the issues. It's very logical. And it deals with worldview, accountability, and ultimates. And we'll see. Yeah, his situation is similar to Matt Dillon-Houndy, because he said that he was a pastor for ten years, and then he became an atheist when he said that he realized that he couldn't reconcile some of the things in the Bible with reality, because he said that some of the stuff in the Bible was just straight-up in error. Yeah, I've talked to atheists who've said things like that, and then I say, well, let's talk about it. And what else? That's an error. And then I find out that a lot of times it's just nothing. And very often what they'll do is create an error when there isn't one. And one of the tests I give to sometimes with atheists is that they can explain what a contradiction is. And, you know, for example, when two women were at the tomb and another place says one woman was at the tomb as a contradiction, the answer is no, it's not. If it says only one woman was at the tomb and another says there was two, then that's a contradiction because one, by saying only, means the other one cannot be true. But if it says there was a woman there, it's true. And there was another woman there, too. Both are true. And so what I'll do is I'll go through the issue of what defines a contradiction. I have the word traitor down my screen. I'm looking at it. And so they often don't know. And then when we go in and look at something, and I'll say, well, look, here's the possibilities. Why then are you asserting it is a contradiction? Because what they want, they're hypocrites in a sense, very often, because they want absolute proof logically, absolute connection, all your dots, that God exists. But when they're arguing against God, they don't require the same level of excellence. well you see there are these problems here so therefore that's why it doesn't exist. But if we give something that's on the same level of abductive reasoning, it's not deductive or necessary, but abductive which means basically conclusions based on the best inference, then they say no it's not acceptable. So they, I often call it taxi cab theology or taxi cab approach because you get in and out of the taxi cab depending on what you like when you're driving along the realm of thought, defense, world views, and things like that. I'm gonna get out now, because I don't like what you're doing. And they play a different game. So anyway, that's part of the stuff. So if you can find those contradictions and send them to me, I can write up the responses. Okay? I just remembered two more. So you can type it down on your computer. Yeah, I'll type it down, sure. Okay, first one, he said, uh... he brews i think the nine says or you know if you're on there you could pick it that uh... without shedding of blood there's no forgiveness of sins and then he went to a believable yep and he said he went to a little bit he gets five any fifty he said there and several other places there are exceptions to where uh... god forgave people what but when he did something other than uh... the shedding of blood and the second one is when He says, I think in Numbers, I think it's 2319, or it might be somewhere else in Numbers, where it says, God does not change his mind, but then in, I think he said in Exodus, God did change his mind when he was originally gonna, I think, kill some people, but then he changed his mind to not kill the people. Yeah. Yeah, that was an easy answer. Uh-huh. Yep. Yeah, those are easy. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, okay, yeah, well, good, I like those. And what I can do is write up responses and add them to the CARM website. It's not a problem, okay? All right. Okay. And there's one more, but I don't know if you think it's worth responding to, but he says that, he believes that the Bible claims that the the earth is flat and he says the reason why he believes this is because uh the word rakia in genesis means a hard hard structure doesn't actually mean atmosphere and uh he said this is why a certain translation is like The NRSV says dome in Genesis 1 6 and NIV says vaults and other translation I think the NSV NES being some some maybe not in Genesis, but in I think the psalm Isaiah also uses vaults somewhere for sky and What else um he said I? Think in Job somewhere in Job. I think it might have been Job 38 somewhere in that chapter it says that the earth is that the Earth's surface is like, is like the surface of, hold on a second. I'm gonna try to look it up on my Bible real fast. Job 38, might be 21. Oh no. The surface, or I'll look it up. I'm trying to find it ahead of you, but, and the surface of the deep is imprisoned? No, go ahead. No, it was something about the surface of the ground looking like something. And he said the fact that this passage says that the Earth looks like this, that means that the Earth is flat in its context. Yeah, show it to me. See if you can find that one. I can't seem to find it. But let me know, OK? We'll get the music going. And we'll respond to that one as well. Just find it and send it to me at info at karm.org. All right, buddy? All right. I'll work on it tonight. OK, buddy. OK, God bless. Whoops, sorry about the cough. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. All right, and welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, the number is 877-207-2276. Let's get to Tom from South Carolina. Welcome, Tom. You're on the air. Hello, Matt. How are you today? I'm doing all right, hanging in there. Hanging in there. What do you got, man? I was talking to them today on the Jimmy Swagger Show and they were telling me that the Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit was one spirit that was the same spirit, and I just wonder what you thought about that. Yeah, it's the same. It's just a translation difference from the King James Holy Ghost. And it's just the same thing as the Holy Spirit, because in the Greek it's pneuma, but they went to ghost early on. So it's nothing. It's just a linguistic, stylistic difference of translations. Now, if you're a Mormon, the Holy Ghost is the third God, but the Holy Spirit is the presence of God. But when you say Holy Spirit, it's the same thing as saying Holy Ghost, not it's a Holy Spirit or the Holy Spirit. It's the Holy Spirit. I was thinking that God was the Holy Spirit and Jesus' Spirit was the Spirit of a human being, a Holy Spirit, the Comforter. Hmm, interesting. The phrase Holy Spirit and the phrase Holy Ghost are one and the same. They're just different translations. Both are spirit. Try it. I'm sorry, what? Both are spirits. No, they're not spirits. It's like saying, in Spanish, you can say, yo tengo hambre, which means, I am hungry. But you can translate it also as, I have hunger, because both are absolutely correct. So the word numa. Yeah, both are Numa. Both are individual spirits, is what I was told. And I was told they were two of the seven spirits of God. No, not that. Okay. You're jumping all over the place. You're jumping all over the place. The phrase Holy Spirit, the phrase Holy Ghost, it's just a translation difference from the same Greek. So it's the same thing. Okay. Why did they put both of them in there? Both of them in the Bible. Because the King James used Holy Ghost. That's all. It's just an anachronism. Well, it uses Holy Spirit, too. The Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit in one place, and then the Holy Ghost in another place. Well, I'm just telling you what the King James did. Okay? That's all that's going on. All right? Well, how about this guy told me that those two spirits, two numis, two different spirits, were two of the seven spirits of God in Revelation 3.1. Two of the spirits were those spirits. Which, which, I don't understand. Of the seven spirits of God that Jesus spoke about in Revelation 3.1. Yeah, there's debate about that. When he said, these things saith he which hath the seven spirits of God. Yeah, I know. But I'm trying to follow the logic of what it is you're saying. I don't see the connection. Because the seven spirits, someone could say that they're... When you say two of the seven, that confuses me. Because you're saying Holy Ghost and Holy Spirit as if they're different, when I keep telling you they're not. Well, the Holy Ghost is the comforter, and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of truth. That'd be two different spirits. Right? No. What church do you go to? Well, we believe in the people of the church. What church do you go to? Well, we believe in the people of the church. I mean, you're having church now. Here's a question. What church? What's the name of the church you go to? House of Prayer. Jesus said my father's house could be called the House of Prayer. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I didn't ask that. I just asked, what's the name of the church? Well, I had to say. No, you don't. So, House of Prayer, what city and state is it located in? North Carolina. Which city? A city, it would be Eclipside, North Carolina. I got a reason for asking because I want to know what's going on and if the church you're talking about is a cult or not because of the things you're saying. Now I'm just telling you that you're saying things that don't seem to be adapting. Now, it looks like... Adapting to what? What I'm telling you. I was looking at the seven spirits of God. He showed me in the Bible where it said that. Okay, we're just done. I suspect, without being able to verify it, but what I suspect is that it might be an aberrant group and that sometimes we meet people like that. They don't really seem to... How do I say this? I'll just say it straight. I've had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of conversations like this where when you tell people something they don't listen to it or they dismiss it and then you continue on with the same thing. I answer that and they go back to the same thing. That's why I ask what church you go to because often what churches are can become cultic kind of legalistic wacko groups. and they will do that kind of a thing where they teach their members not to really think through these things, but to only react certain ways. And I've seen this hundreds of times, and that's why I was asking what his church was. It was difficult to get it out of him, which is another warning sign when they don't want to just say what church they go to. They give you ambiguous answers. This is part of the MO of wacko groups and stuff like that. I'm not saying he is that. He might have been fine. It might be a good church. I'm just saying that it started becoming more suspicious as I was going on in that and trying to find his exact church, which I couldn't do. So and then he just started becoming, well, it's argumentative about it and not listening. And so let's move on. That's all, because it won't go anywhere. Trust me. I know that. Let's get to Patrick from North Carolina. Patrick, welcome. You're on the air. Hey, hi, Matt. Congratulations on your 30 years. Thank you, appreciate it. Website's 30 years old, yes, Saturday. That's right, it was great. Okay. And my question is if, you know, the Word became flesh, you know, Jesus, but when Jesus died on the cross, what happened to the Word of God today? Where is the Word of God today? You see, your question is confusing. When he died on the cross, where is he today? The cross was 2,000 years ago, and now you're saying, where is he today? So I'm trying to see the connection between those while you're asking the question. You believe that Jesus is in the flesh today in heaven, but I'm asking, where is the Word of God today? Well, the Word of God is on my cell phone right now, because I'm opening it up and looking at it at the NESB 95. See where it is right there, you see? That's where the Word of God is in one place. Yeah, but when the Word became flesh, and it said the Word was with God, so the Word was with God in the beginning, but the Word became flesh, Jesus, and He died. Did Jesus Go back to being the Word of God when he resurrected. He's always the Word of God. It didn't go back to it as if he wasn't, because he always was. The Word became flesh and dwelt among us. That's Jesus. So Jesus has two natures, the divine and human. And he still does, and he always will. So it's not an issue of going back. He always was that, and he always will be that. Yeah, because in Revelations 19, 13, it says he's dressed in a robe, dripped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. So Jesus today is the Word of God. Yes, that's right, because he's God in flesh. Okay. Yes. But he's in the flesh. Yes. I don't believe that. I don't believe Jesus is in the flesh, because flesh and blood cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. No, it says flesh and blood cannot, but Jesus says, you can touch me because spirit doesn't have flesh and bones as you see I have, Luke 24, 39. So he differentiated between the idiomatic phrase flesh and blood, which Jesus says to Peter, flesh and blood didn't reveal this to you, the carnal aspect. But he's differentiated when he said, spirit doesn't have flesh and bones as you see I have. And that's the difference between those. OK, so you kind of misunderstood that. All right. And if Jesus sits at the right side of God, does Jesus sit next to God? Well, we don't know exactly what that means. It's a visionary description. He's at the right hand. The phrase right hand means the place of authority. Now, Jesus is in a physical body right now, and he forever will be that. As a high priest, he has holes in his wrists and his feet. And this is who he is for eternity. OK? But why wouldn't they just say Jesus is God instead of saying he sits at the right side of God? That's what I don't understand. Because he's talking about the Trinity, the right hand of the Father. And furthermore, I have a theory that the Word of God is written in such a way so that people who don't have eyes to see will not be able to see the truth. That's what I think. We've got a break. We're going to take off. Thanks for calling, Patrick. Hey folks, we'll be right back after these messages. We'll get to, let's see, Oscar next and Alberto after him, which is still on after the break. We'll be right back. Please stay tuned. It's Matt Slick live, taking your calls at 877-207-2276. Here's Matt Slick. Everybody, welcome back to the show. If you want to give me a call, it's easy. Just dial 877-207-2276. Let's get on the phone with Oscar from New York. Oscar, welcome. You're on the air. Yes, sir. I have a question. I listen to a Bible teacher sometimes, but he says we have to keep believing in order to be saved. Now my question is this, are we saved by grace and kept saved by work? No, we are saved by grace and faith without any works, and we're kept by grace and faith without any works. Now, it doesn't mean it's okay to do sinful things, but we don't keep ourselves right with the infinitely holy God by our effort. We believe because it's natural for us to believe, because God grants that we have faith, Philippians 1.29, and He's caused us to be born again, 1 Peter 1.3. We're new creatures, 2 Corinthians 5.17. And because we're new, we're different, we just naturally believe. So it's not an issue of our belief being our work, because our believing is the work of God. In John 6, 28, 29, they said to Jesus, what must we do to work the works of God? And Jesus says, this is the work of God that you believe, on the Emomia said. So our believing is the work of God, but we do the believing, but we're also regenerate, we're made new creatures, so it's natural for us to believe. Just like it's natural for me to breathe. I don't have to keep myself breathing to stay alive. Well, I get what you're saying, but we don't think about it that way. It's not like that. And so we just do what we're naturally inclined to do, and as new creatures in Christ, we naturally continue to believe. And God is the one who worked it in us, and so we believe because of His work. And we do, and we believe, okay? Right, right, right. So if we're saved, we cannot stop believing. That's right. Right. That's my question. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Thank you very much. You answered my question. Yeah. Okay. Thank you. All right. Now let's get to Alberto from Georgia. Alberto, welcome brother. You're on the air. Yeah. I got a question. You think that AI can bend some kind of polygraph gadget so you can attach it to pastors when they claim, they say, God told me or God gave me a prophecy. So I have a back screen, a digital big screen. So when you say God told me that the polygraph detector really came from God or not, if he's lying or not. Okay. My response is, huh? What? Can you go through that again? and you AI in the future and been a gadget, polygraph gadget that the pastors can wear. And when they claim that God told them and about a prophecy or God told him about this by certain stuff in the church to know and to have a digital screen in the back and that the polygraph machine will determine if he's telling the truth or not, that it came from God or not. Um, uh, I've never really considered that, so it's kind of hard to jump in on that one. So you're saying, can AI develop a lie detector that a pastor can wear? Right? Yeah. So advanced one, so you can connect it to your body. Advanced one, so that when he says, God told me this, God told me this, So and then the polygraph machine detects these lines, and it's green in the background, the whole church could see if he's lying or not. God told him for real or not. Wow, that'd be a good device to have. I wish we had something like that for real, because then we could send it to a lot of the pastors on TV and see what happens. But when you ask, can AI develop it, Well, I don't know. I don't know if it's possible. I don't know if it's not possible. So, you know, on a technical, logical thing, I don't know if the possibility is there or not there. So, I don't know. But I see what you're saying. The thing that you think is suggested to the companies that might come with something coming up, there'll be big bucks for them, the people who develop that, for these churches across America and around the world. You're basically a hot talker. He'll be a hot product to sell to these churches. You're just, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let's get back to earth here. Let's get back to earth. So you're just talking about a lie detector. Okay. And there's a reason they're not admitted in court as proof. All right. But, um, uh, it's not anything I never thought about a holographic thing of pastor wears so that AI can prove that he's telling the truth or not. Wow. That's right. The doctor claimed that God told me they had, you know, let's have this, they had a, God told me this to tell you about a person or tell you, God told me this, or, you know, God told me, I didn't say all the time. God told me this to tell you. Well, that way, if you know for sure, it came from God, you'd be, so they tell you to detect a polygraph or detect his line. It didn't come from God. You know, if it did come from God, it would show that he's telling the truth. Yeah, I don't know how that could be programmed. But why not take the technology advance or advance it? They could do some stuff now. Yeah. Well, we got nano robots and human bodies. Tell you what, um, I just don't really think this conversation is really worth exploring very much because I don't think we can really get to it. Okay. All right. All right. Maybe this is a thought that came to my mind. Maybe, you know, that when people be deceived, you know, circled by, sorry, by deceived by these holy prosperity preachers all the time. I think we would need it for politicians. We need it for politicians. but then it would take a lot of energy to work that hard. So, um, okay. I'm going to be passed by law first before people can put it on pastors. Um, Wow, that's different. That's an interesting concept, though, that you could have in a science fiction novel, that it's a future requirement for people to wear bracelets or something that is set for lie detection. And if they lie, they get zapped with 20 volts or something. And that would be fun. I could see that. That'd be good. And then that way, you just watch politicians talk just for the entertainment value, because it'd be constant. They'd say, hello, because they're just, I don't know. That'd be different. You know, Wonder Woman had the wand around the people. Wonder Woman, she'd wrap it around that rope and make it tell the truth. Yeah, yeah, I wish I had that. I wish I had that for some people. Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah. Okay. All right. I've never been asked that before, but that's interesting. So, okay. All right. Thank you. OK, well, thanks. Appreciate it. All right. Alberto, come through. That was good. It was interesting. Alberto has a tendency to ask interesting questions. That's one of the more interesting, euphemistic forms, interesting questions I think have been asked in a long time. other than from five-year-olds. So, I mean, it was good. It was good. You know, good, good thing in there. I'm not sure. Okay. Anyway, so there you go. And hey, folks, I just let you know that we'll stay on the air by your support. Please consider supporting us. We do need that. We're just trusting God to continue to provide for us with a new website and with new things coming. We're hopefully One of the things I want to do is get a debate format arranged. We can have a lot of debates on a CARM system. I want to work on that. And then start arranging really good debates with analysis and things like this. So that's a thing we want to work on. And I may be out of the studio for two weeks starting next week. And so going on a Bible tour. And the reason I'm able to go on those, I don't want you to think I've got all this money to throw around. I don't have that. 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