Judge orders church services outside Planned Parenthood clinic to move across the street
A church operating outside an abortion clinic in Washington state will continue to hold services directly adjacent to the facility after a court order was issued this week and forced it to make changes.
A Washington Superior Court judge issued a preliminary injunction Monday ordering the Church at Planned Parenthood, a monthly service held outside a Planned Parenthood facility in Spokane organized by Covenant Church, to move its services across the street from the facility and coordinate service times to avoid coinciding with the clinicâs hours of operation....
Mike, I believe this is what the latest at Pew research has on the topic which is dated August of 2019, and it shows a growing trend in support of abortion. This of course once again shows a failure of,
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Pew Research wrote: .... The new survey by Pew Research Center, conducted July 22-August among 4,175 adults, also finds little support for overturning Roe v. Wade, the landmark Supreme Court decision that established a womanâs right to an abortion. Seven-in-ten say they do not want to see the Roe v. Wade decision completely overturned; 28% say they would like to see the Supreme Court completely overturn the 1973 decision.
Consistent with these views, a majority of Americans say their greater concern is that some states are making it too difficult (59%) rather than too easy (39%) for people to be able to get an abortion....
excerpt from, "U.S. Public Continues to Favor Legal Abortion, Oppose Overturning Roe v. Wade"
Somewhere I put up a comment by George Will on abortion, and he seems to be against it, as a general principle. He is also against authoritarian Christianity
Jim Lincoln wrote: --- No, Mike, the majority doesn't set my standards nor really the low standards of the evangelicals who support certain people-who shall remain nameless--the majority however does set the standards for the country, remember â ---
Not true, Jim. You need start taking notes. Remember the number of States that had referendums where the majority voted for squelching at least some aspects of the abortion kill machine? What happened? Oh, a judge overruled the people. I would say an extreme minority of judges is setting the "standards"
The above URL will help you look at the variety of columns that he has, if memory serves not all of them are complementary of Democrats or Biden, or the New Deal for that matter. we
No, Mike, the majority doesn't set my standards nor really the low standards of the evangelicals who support certain people-who shall remain nameless--the majority however does set the standards for the country, remember â
1 Timothy 1:8-11
8. But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, 9. realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers 10. and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, 11. according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, with which I have been entrusted. -- https://tinyurl.com/has82mk (NASB)
Jim Lincoln wrote: Take a look at George Will's last sentence, .... excerpt from, "Biden's election will end national nightmare 2.0" https://tinyurl.com/y23ghyd ... Note also, Mike, The majority of Americans are much more liberal than the Evangelical/right-wing Catholic Axis. They consider abortion under many circumstances acceptable --Including Trump, I mght add, than the axis.
If George Will thinks Biden, running as a figurehead Democrat, but actually a pawn of the lunatic left, is going to be elected, Will is going to be nervously fidgeting around in his pontificating chair when Itâs over.
Even if it were true that the majority were for abortion, (it isnât) itâs evil reality is not determined by majority acceptability. Raise your standards, Jim.
Take a look at George Will's last sentence, In my excerpt from his column, it's as true for Republicans as it is for Democrats. Lot of support for Biden is getting coming from Republicansâđ You all should have picked a different candidate for President.
George F. Will wrote: .... BidenÂ doesÂ notÂ endorseÂ Medicare-for-all: He understands, as some competitors for the nomination amazingly did not, that for several decades organized laborâs most important agenda has been negotiating employer-provided health care as untaxed compensation. Similarly, BidenÂ does not opposeÂ fracking, which provides many of the more thanÂ 300,000Â Pennsylvania jobs supported by the oil and gas industry, and many others inÂ Ohio and elsewhere. He understands, as some progressives seem not to, that presidential elections are won not by pleasing the most intense faction but by assembling a temperate coalition.
excerpt from, "Biden's election will end national nightmare 2.0"
Note also, Mike, The majority of Americans are much more liberal than the Evangelical/right-wing Catholic Axis. They consider abortion under many circumstances acceptable --Including Trump, I mght add, than the axis.
Jim Lincoln wrote: The arguments there were about prohibition can can be applied to abortion as this 1921 article showsâ excerpt from, "Relative Values in Prohibition" https://tinyurl.com/y3puqdql ...anybody who is anti abortion has to be pro-universal health care otherwise it's completely hypocriticalâđ
The article you quote is not in the least applicable to abortion. You should be doing as the writer promotes in about prohibition, the equal application of anti-abortion laws. I don't read anything in it that would promote universal beer distribution. Besides, have you never been informed? Pregnancy is
The arguments there were about prohibition can can be applied to abortion as this 1921 article showsâ
Louis Graves wrote: ...And the statement I have quoted is literally true: prohibition [antiabortion] is a rich manâs law, as the case now stands. Whatever it may be in theory, it is that in fact. Persons well supplied with money can get alcoholic drink [an abortion] practically whenever they want it. That it may be different in the future, that the law may eventually weigh equally upon all classes, does not interest the poor man [woman ]balked of his beer [her abortion]. âWhatâs that to me?â he asks. âIâll be dead by that time.â A reform that is so far ahead of public sentiment that it cannot be enforced except upon the lowly is a powerful incentive to that very class-antagonism which is to-day such a dangerous factor in our national life.
National Prohibition [antiabortionism] has been an artificial and unhealthy growth. To social reform it is what the get-rich-quick scheme is to finance....
excerpt from, "Relative Values in Prohibition"
Mike, anybody who is anti abortion has to be pro-universal health care otherwise it's completely hypocriticalâđ
As the National Association of Evangelicalsâ official public policy document (FOR THE HEALTH OF THE NATION) insists, âFaithful evangelical civic engagement and witness must champion a biblically balanced agenda.â Therefore we oppose âone issueâ political thinking because it lacks biblical balance.
Knowing that the most common reason women give for abortion is the financial difficulty of another child, we appreciate a number of Democratic proposals that would significantly alleviate that financial burden: accessible health services for all citizens, affordable childcare, a minimum wage that lifts workers out of poverty.
For these reasons, we believe that on balance, Joe Bidenâs policies are more consistent with the biblically shaped ethic of life than those of Donald Trump. Therefore, even as we continue to urge different policies on abortion, we urge evangelicals to elect Joe Biden as president."...
excerpt from, "Pro-life Evangelicals for Biden"
The Christian Post had a more detailed look at this group,