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FRONT PAGE  |  9/20/2020
SATURDAY, AUG 15, 2020  |  43 comments
Cannabis use costs Australia billions
The annual cost of cannabis use to Australian society is more than A$4.5 billion (£2.5bn), recent academic research has estimated.

The report, published by Curtin University’s National Drug Research Institute (NDRI), revealed that over a twelve-month period, Australia’s two million cannabis users created a significant financial burden on workplaces, healthcare provision and the criminal justice system.

The researchers believe “lost quality of life” for users and their families, including harm caused to “those living with a person dependent on cannabis”, could be costing a further £6 billion. ...


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News Item8/29/2020 10:37 PM
Tell that to these people  Find all comments by Tell that to these people
HerbalMama wrote:
However, smoking it is a victimless crime
Opioid addiction and overdoses have become a national crisis, with an estimated 115 deaths a day.

https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2018/05/31/drugged-driving-deaths-spike-with-spread-of-legal-marijuana-opioid-abuse

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News Item8/19/2020 7:11 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
HM and MS, would you mind giving some specific examples of what you are talking about regarding “snark” and “playground bullying” in this particular thread? I went back as far as my iPhone would allow me to in order to see if there were any instances of this, but although I did see some rather strong areas of disagreement, I didn’t see anything I thought was abusive. I didn’t catch the comments that were deleted by the moderator, so I don’t know if that’s what you’re talking about. Thanks.
And thanks to all of you who have prayed/are praying for my family. There are few people in America who have not been afflicted by the scourge of drug and/or alcohol abuse among family members, and my clan has been hit especially hard. The old destroyer certainly has a potent arsenal in the bag and the bottle.
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News Item8/18/2020 9:23 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Yes,I agree HerbalMama.
There’s a lot of playground bullying on these threads by the immature.
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News Item8/18/2020 8:51 PM
Herbalmama  Find all comments by Herbalmama
Snark does not go unnoticed (you probably rejoice in that). Have it boys.
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News Item8/18/2020 8:09 PM
Watchmanrem | Australia  Find all comments by Watchmanrem
Dr. Tim wrote:
Still the same, QC. Please keep praying. We’re trying to have her committed (again). I know the drug-and-secular-counseling routine won’t change her, but maybe it’ll help keep her alive until the Holy Spirit moves on her heart.
Praying too for your friends situations sadly its so common as you mention counseling is ok to a point , praying for the heart of tbe matter... I have my own older brother who is in the same boat and lives at home still and make hell for our mum. Do PRAY.amen

...

“And the drink offering thereof shall be the fourth part of an hin for the one lamb: in the holy place shalt thou cause the strong wine to be poured unto the LORD for a drink offering.”
— Numbers 28:7 (KJV)

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News Item8/18/2020 7:12 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Thanks, QC. I forgot to mention that her psychotic/demonic episodes also began with drug abuse. Just another “victimless” crime.
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News Item8/18/2020 11:36 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
May the Lord provide relief and healing, Brother Tim. Thanks for sharing so we can pray.
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News Item8/18/2020 11:06 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Still the same, QC. Please keep praying. We’re trying to have her committed (again). I know the drug-and-secular-counseling routine won’t change her, but maybe it’ll help keep her alive until the Holy Spirit moves on her heart.
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News Item8/18/2020 9:47 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
That is the nature of sin, Brother Tim. It is very caustic and difficult, if not impossible, to contain within established boundaries. Always destructive, it seems to destroy more and more, wider and wider. Praying for your family. What of the kin who was hearing voices?
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News Item8/17/2020 11:54 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Someone said that pot smoking is a “victimless” crime. Hardly.
I’ve asked people to pray for my brother-in-law who was admitted to the hospital recently. Thank God he was discharged today, but not before he nearly died from a “victimless crime.”
You see, my brother-in-law got Hepatitis A, and apparently his wife also now has it, through contact with their son who is an intravenous drug abuser. But the son didn’t start out shooting up. No, like most dopers, he started smoking pot before he moved on to the harder stuff. The young man’s drug habit has come at a tremendous cost to his parents as well as his children emotionally, physically, financially, mentally and even spiritually, and this same scenario is repeated all over America. Believe me, as a former addict myself, and one who currently works in an addictions recovery ministry, I can tell you beyond a doubt that there is nothing “victimless” about drug abuse, including the drug alcohol. Sin always affects more than just the sinner. Always.
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News Item8/17/2020 12:17 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
HerbalMama, 👍!
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News Item8/17/2020 10:46 AM
HerbalMama  Find all comments by HerbalMama
Hhmm....to state that the alcohol in the bible was anything but alcohol is to ignore all of history (food preservation) and chemistry. It was indeed alcoholic and capable of making one drunk.
Alcohol is a must if you want real vanilla extract (or any extract for that matter). Alcohol is a must if you want apple cider vinegar. Alcohol is a must if you want a form of medicine from the trees as God has stated in Ezekiel 47:12. You can refrain B, if you desire, but as stated to pass judgement on those that choose otherwise is to be a Pharisee. One is capable of enjoying the use of alcohol without getting drunk. One is capable of enjoying the use of alcohol without taking a sip.
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News Item8/17/2020 4:38 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Great for the buzz and bias moderator.
As the church goes down on this, it will abound on its downfall.
SA is done
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News Item8/17/2020 3:27 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
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News Item8/16/2020 11:23 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Frank, I agree completely with your comments.
I also would add: “It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor anything whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak”.
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News Item8/16/2020 11:06 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
B. McC- you have stated several times on this forum *your opinion* concerning the drinking of wine.
The prohibition of drinking wine is not to be found in the Bible. When God does not forbid something in Scripture, neither should we. To do so is legalism and adding to God’s Word.
Take care.
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News Item8/16/2020 10:52 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
When I was first saved, I wouldn’t go near a bar and I naively said I wouldn’t go to any restaurant that served alcohol. Obviously my naivety didn’t last long, since all restaurants served alcohol.

The pastor of the church I was attending when I got saved used to say that not a drop or alcohol would ever touch his lips. And to the best of my knowledge the congregation agreed.

This isn’t aimed at you, MS, but for the last time: it is sinful to drink to excess unless there is great pain or turmoil and no other remedy is available. For those of us who have experienced the effects of alcohol, this is very clear.

Proverbs 31:6 Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.

7 Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.

I personally would never advise anyone to drink alcohol at all, but strong alcohol I would definitely not encourage them. And unless Proverbs 31:6,7 are applicable, never to excess.

Christ made and drank alcohol, not grape juice or whatever someone wants to twist His wine into. If He did it, then it cannot be sinful in and of itself. This comments takes MS comment into consideration. IOW, I agree with her understanding of Romans 14:22,23.

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News Item8/16/2020 10:25 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Frank wrote:
If someone believes it is a sin to drink alcohol, it is a sin. If they do not think that, then it isn't
Situational ethics accomodate truth

MS
"Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eats not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin."

What is considered sin in this passage is doubting about the matter, not taking a stand about the issue.

'Opinions' are not biblical. They are a humanistic devise to accomodate truth in order to make us all feel happy with whatever take we incline to. It is pluralism.

The word is yeah, yeah, and nay, nay, and whatever else comes from it out of that is sin.

We are called to keep unity in truth.

"... he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
For the perfecting of the saints, ...
Till we all come in the unity of the faith"

Instead of entertaining opinions we are to endeavour to

"... walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.

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News Item8/16/2020 9:50 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
8. Situational ethics. *Your opinion*.
Romans 14:22-23. *God’s Word*.
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News Item8/16/2020 9:21 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Frank wrote:
1. ... Every man at the beginning does set forth good wine; and when men have well drunk, then that which is worse: but thou hast kept the good wine until now ... v.10 will only be understood by someone who understands the effect of real alcohol

2. Christ made real alcohol; not grape juice.

3. “... Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners

4. ... wisdom is justified of her children”

5. ... winebibber means a drunkard ... they saw Christ ... drink alcohol.

6. If ... drinking a form of grape juice

7. Christ never drank to excess.

8. If someone believes it is a sin to drink alcohol, it is a sin. If they do not think that, then it isn't.

Drunkenness being the serious issue it is in our society and for enlightenment of any new stopping by, a check of half truths, rabbit trails and presumptions argued upon.

1. False assumption that bad or good wine is determined by intoxicating power.

2.&6. Not stated

3. So by Christ's critics mouth is is implied that he sinned as a 'gluttonous'

4. The acts of those practicing wisdom become obvious by the results

5. Nazerite abstinence context missing

7. Dituled domestic wine could hardly get a man drunk

8. Situational ethics

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