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FRONT PAGE  |  8/4/2020
SATURDAY, JUL 11, 2020  |  15 comments
Brooklyn’s Hasidic Jews are acting like they have herd immunity. Could they be right?
Continued gatherings of Hasidic Jews drew criticism from New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio and others in the city this spring who said the communities were not doing their part to stop the spread of the virus. But inside the communities, the overwhelming perception is that most people have had the virus and may now be immune.

“That’s the feeling, that they’ve had it, everybody they know has had it, and the people they know who haven’t had it have some kind of immunity that we just don’t understand yet,” one Williamsburg health administrator said.

If community members’ assumptions are correct — and that’s a big if, as much is not yet known about whether and how COVID-19 infections provide later immunity — Brooklyn’s Orthodox neighborhoods would stand alone. Even in the few places such as Sweden that have explicitly pursued a strategy of trying to reach herd immunity, antibody tests show that ...


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News Item7/13/2020 6:27 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
An assumption of the Herd Immunity argument may be faulty - antibodies for the virus seem to be short-lived:

www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200622/covid-19-antibodies-can-disappear-after-2-3-months

But then, claims about Covid seem to be all over the map.

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News Item7/11/2020 10:50 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
ladybug wrote:
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Yet, they screamed that Hydroxychloroquine shouldn't be used because it was 'untested'. Didn't matter it's been around for decades and was used to treat malaria and has been proven successful in treating those with the virus. Do you smell a rat yet?
The sewer is full of them.
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News Item7/11/2020 9:49 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
This is bizarre- https://freebeacon.com/…/nbc-contributor-reveals-he-never-…/. So, you can have NO SYMPTOMS and test 'positive', or you can be sick as a dog with a mysterious illness, in this case, one they said was 'covid', yet test NEGATIVE. What the heck is going on?!?! And they call us conspiracy theorists.....
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News Item7/11/2020 3:52 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
They don't want 'herd immunity' and here's why, "Experts say herd immunity requires 50 to 70% of the population to be exposed to the virus. Business Insider's Hilary Brueck reported that(here it comes) ---without a vaccine, it could take four to five years to reach that point---."- https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-call-herd-immunity-sweden-experiment-coronavirus-not-working-2020-5?op=1

They want everyone to be vaccinated against a virus that kills how much of the population? hmmmmm. And Bill Gates stands to make BILLIONS off this UNTESTED vaccine due to his funding of Pirbright, who owns a patent on the coronavirus vaccine-https://americantruthtoday.com/politics/2020/01/29/bill-gates-funded-the-pirbright-institute-which-owns-the-patent-on-coronavirus/ https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701. Yet, they screamed that Hydroxychloroquine shouldn't be used because it was 'untested'. Didn't matter it's been around for decades and was used to treat malaria and has been proven successful in treating those with the virus. Do you smell a rat yet?

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News Item7/11/2020 2:56 PM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Texas  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
Do Blasio has too be the tallest evil man I have ever seen. I hope NYC doesn’t get rid of him too soon. He’s a Hollywood central casting for wanted, “large Jew and Christian hating communist”. He looks like “ lurch” from the Adams Family.
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News Item7/11/2020 12:28 PM
hey_yo | North East  Find all comments by hey_yo
The people, who are no longer God's people, by reason of rejecting Jesus, are mysteriously protected by someone-or something-else.
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News Item7/11/2020 12:17 PM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
O’ Saints guard the Well Spring of Life at all cost & ben’t ashamed in Love declaring why their is none like Christ Alone amen! Pro 4:23

Made me think of what our country is going through currently!

Jhn Flavel; Perhaps the smallness of the sin is urged as a reason why you may commit it: "It’s but a little sin,but a small matter, but a trifle!"

But, if you commit this little sin you will offend a great God! Is there any little Hell to torment little sinners in? No! The least sinners in Hell are full of misery! There is great wrath treasured up for those whom the world regard as little sinners.

The less the sin the less the inducement you should have to commit it. Will you provoke God for a trifle? Will you destroy your peace, wound your conscience, & grieve the Spirit all for nothing? What madness is this!

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News Item7/11/2020 11:09 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Another issue is faulty testing-https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/accuracy-of-coronavirus-tests-questioned-after-pga-golfer-tests-positive-and-then-negative.html
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News Item7/11/2020 10:28 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
One of the key components to the rapid rise in cases in certain States is that the virus didn't "burn itself out there yet." Some states did have higher positive tests numbers and the virus likely is less of a threat there. My Hasitic cousins may have a point.

The De Blasio's hatred of Jews and Christians has been on display for months, and the Hasitic community has been a particular target. "Black lives matter" has been the cry of the masses (and they do as image bearers like everyone else per Genesis 9), but apparently Jewish lives don't anymore according to De Blasio? That is particularly troubling. What's worse, where is the outcry from the Anti-Defamation League? SPLC? Is it OK to be Jewish so long as one doesn't believe in Israel's God?

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News Item7/11/2020 10:18 AM
Buckeyes | USA  Find all comments by Buckeyes
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Just make protest masks out of sheer or lace. They do nothing but restrict people’s air flow anyway.
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News Item7/11/2020 10:17 AM
Coming Reality  Find all comments by Coming Reality
If you think it’s bad now just wait until January of next year
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News Item7/11/2020 9:48 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
"It sure does pass the look & smell like we are being introduced to Communism. By the surpression of our rights & liberties as Adults & Americans. To make our own choices to weither or n’t to mask up in our coming & goings."- yes, that's the goal of the Globalists Need Him. I pray for America, a nation that's divided against itself over masks! this is bizarre, mandating masks that, in some cases, cause the wearer to infect themselves because the mask traps their own co2 gases and causes them to breath in those gases they should be expelling. These globalists know what they're doing, they've been planning a takeover for a few decades. They are using the Democrats, who are globalists for the most part, to bring about their plan. They have to get Trump out of the way to complete their agenda. I pray that doesn't happen. Communist America is being brought to reality, thanks to the Democratic party and the far left liberal wackos
Most right this off as 'conspiracy'...they won't be able to do that very much longer.
watch this and notice the similarities in what happened in Venezuela and what's happening n America-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6ZYJha2A6A&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3i1tOpFuXPO9qzkiUzr2tWEfTm0pjI9t4DcX2ewmVzGd_eex5mqQsEn-4
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News Item7/11/2020 9:40 AM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
Ladybug; Some interesting times, we are dealing with praise God that the True & only Triune God isn’t taken back by what’s going on. O’ Lord strengthen Your people to seek Your kingdom first to seek wisdom & guidance, as one lays & cast their burdens at the foot of the Cross amen.

It sure does pass the look & smell like we are being introduced to Communism. By the surpression of our rights & liberties as Adults & Americans. To make our own choices to weither or n’t to mask up in our coming & goings.

As the Godless tyrant Mayor in NYC said he willn’t shut down mass BLM gatherings in NYC.

I was reading in CA they are thinking about trying to push in making people wear mask at their homes, welcome to Communism!

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News Item7/11/2020 9:19 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
There are just over 3 million 'alleged' cases in the US as of july 9, there are a little over 132,000 'alleged' deaths as a result. They have moved the goal posts consistently throughout this 'pandemic'and inflated numbers, how much longer will Americans continue to live in fear? They are mandating mask wearing in parts of the country, even though no mask prevents infectious particles from entering or exiting according to OSHA website. With that said, when will it sink in this is not about your 'protection', it's about your compliance?
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1101932/coronavirus-covid19-cases-and-deaths-number-us-americans/
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News Item7/11/2020 9:01 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
As Hasidim are very much an outlier population sample, I do not find this very encouraging. And note the subjective Weasel Words "feeling" and "perception." Certainty sure is elusive here, as it is generally in science.

"Even if infection with the COVID-19 virus creates long-lasting immunity, a large number of people would have to become infected to reach the herd immunity threshold. Experts estimate that in the U.S., 70% of the population — more than 200 million people — would have to recover from COVID-19 to halt the epidemic."

https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/herd-immunity-and-covid-19-what-you-need-to-know/

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