Police show up at Louisiana church that was defying coronavirus state order
Police responded Tuesday night to a Louisiana church where hundreds had congregated despite the state's ban on gatherings of more than 50 people ‚ÄĒ part of the effort to stop the spread of coronavirus.
Tony Spell, pastor of Life Tabernacle Church in Baton Rouge, said no "dictator law" could keep people from worshipping God, according to the local news.
‚ÄúThe virus, we believe, is politically motivated,‚ÄĚ Spell told WAFB. ‚ÄúWe hold our religious rights dear and we are going to assemble no matter what someone says.‚ÄĚ...
Sigal Samuel wrote: ...the researchers found that American ‚Äúnones‚ÄĚ‚ÄĒthose who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular‚ÄĒare more religious than European nones. The notion that religiously unaffiliated people can be religious at all may seem contradictory, but if you disaffiliate from organized religion it does not necessarily mean you‚Äôve sworn off belief in God, say, or prayer....
America is a country so suffused with faith that religious attributes abound even among the secular. Consider the rise of ‚Äúatheist churches,‚ÄĚ which cater to Americans who have lost faith in supernatural deities but still crave community, enjoy singing with others, and want to think deeply about morality. It‚Äôs religion, minus all the God stuff. This is a phenomenon spreading across the country, from the Seattle Atheist Church to the North Texas Church of Freethought....
excerpt from,"Atheists Are Sometimes More Religious Than Christians"
I wonder like this so-called Church in the SA article, these other [Godless] churches are going to ignore health warnings about abandoning physical meetings from the government?
Sorry, Brothers, looking for my annointed hanky to arrive by mail order. ;-)
The nonsense on the news regarding who is doing more is a picture of the underlying foolishness that exists in the hearts of those in charge, who are just as fallen as everyone else. Heard a comment earlier today from the President that healthcare delivery will not be the same with telemedicine introduced to many in the midst of the crisis. I wonder what else?
One good thing is that the march of the Progressive agenda has at least publically been silenced but what is happening in the background? Democrats in office stepped up attacks on the President & federal govt response today as a result of recent polls showing more Americans are happy with the federal response than not.
Zep 3:8 Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them **mine indignation**, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.
"Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain." Isaiah 26:20‚Ä≠-‚Ä¨21
""Tony Spell, pastor of Life Tabernacle Church in Baton Rouge, said no "dictator law" could keep people from worshipping God""
I notice one of this churches tenets is that they don't believe in the Trinity. They state that the "spirit" is ..... Quote:- "The Holy Ghost is not a third person in the Godhead, but rather the Spirit of God (the Creator), the Spirit of the resurrected Christ."
Thus they appear to 'demote' the Holy Spirit from Trinity and Godhead!! Their version is that the Holy Spirit is NOT the third PERSON. ===
C H Spurgeon wrote:- "We are so accustomed to talk about the influence of the Holy Spirit and his sacred operations and graces, that we are apt to forget that the Holy Spirit is truly and actually a person‚ÄĒthat he is an actual life‚ÄĒan existence; or, as we Trinitarians usually say, one person in the essence of the Godhead. But I am afraid that, though we don‚Äôt know it, we have acquired the habit of regarding the Holy Spirit as an divine emanation flowing from the Father and the Son, but not as being actually a person himself."
CHS Goes on to say: "The second proof that the Holy Spirit is a real person is the fact that the Holy Spirit has actually made different appearances on the earth." (The Personality of the Holy Spirit)
The pastor is acting very irresponsibility especially in giving or perhaps even selling false hope via some kind of handkerchief. False prophet. I could never be a part of such a group (I'm reluctant to use ekklesia for this particular congregation)
QC, I‚Äôm in total agreement. You have Cuomo , who is screaming that the country needs to be on lock down. The problem is when local authorities start going house to house for welfare check and are met with an 80 year old great grandmother, holding a pistol. That‚Äôs when things will become a problem. In anti gun states, they‚Äôll end up shooting the elderly woman and start a gun grab for the safety of first responders. It happened during Catrina in New Orleans.
The Quiet Christian wrote: I completely agree with the comments below regarding this church in question. But there is a bit of concern about what the nation & world will be like in the virus' aftermath. Our government got a good taste of much tighter control, for instance. As seen post-9/11, some of those security apparatus ideas continued despite no real value to antiterrorism, like that NSA's program. What restrictions will we face in the future? Pray for our political leadership, that they make the best decisons but also that they know when to dial it all back.
Hey QC, got your annointed hanky yet?
Power tasted is typically power retained. There's always "public safety" and "public health" justification of some sort available. Previous coronaviruses were pretty much ignored, not in terms of illness, but in terms of utility. D-19 is bad, but has more potential usefulness. It may be cynical, but I believe there are those who hope beyond hope that many will die. No need to be a conspiracy theorist to come to the conclusion. Observation of the fallen nature in operation is enough.
I completely agree with the comments below regarding this church in question. But there is a bit of concern about what the nation & world will be like in the virus' aftermath. Our government got a good taste of much tighter control, for instance. As seen post-9/11, some of those security apparatus ideas continued despite no real value to antiterrorism, like that NSA's program. What restrictions will we face in the future?
Pray for our political leadership, that they make the best decisons but also that they know when to dial it all back.
This is a highly contagious illness. The largest percentage of people in hospital on a vent is people of 50 plus of age with a medical condition. It remains on a surfaces over 72 hours , much like hepatitis. Keep at home be smart. We had a young foreign exchange student patient who was identified as having Wuhan virus, Then person was taken home by medical staff, told to stay home. But doe this person stay home? Nope, this identified patient leaves goes to a restaurant to eat, then goes back home. No Robert Jeffers is not the first online pastor. Umm, that‚Äôs what SA does every Sunday. Kettle calling pot black , .. please.
Fox News wrote: .... Dr. Robert Jeffress, the pastor of First Baptist Church of Dallas, held services Sunday in compliance with the county guidelines, but he told Fox News they will be completely online going forward and urged other religious leaders to do the same....
excerpt from, SA article
Of course Jeffress is set up for online services long before the virus hit. I helped more people get on to give variety to what can be seen.
The virus is "politically motivated?" And "anointed handkerchiefs" for healing? I don't know where this pastor's heart is but it seems not to be on the safety of his flock. I don't know if someone who attends these gatherings can sue him if they contract the virus, but it might be worth it to teach this man to be a better shepherd.
Oh boy, this is nothing but rebellion. Christians are not being persecuted here; the law counts for everyone. Besides which, he is incorrect in thinking that God cannot be worshipped but by corporate assembly. Even the silly Catholics know that.