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FRONT PAGE  |  3/29/2020
WEDNESDAY, DEC 25, 2019  |  154 comments
Best News Ever: A Savior, Christ the Lord
Luke 2:11, “For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.”

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News Item1/1/2020 7:17 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
s c wrote:
True, John. Narrow is the way...
I think that here in the usa ecumenism was a result of compromise.
One would be hard pressed to call the nation "Christian". Adultery and promiscuity have pretty much driven us for many decades and has been and is now all the more glamorized. We don't even blush at the attire of sports teams. Frankly, sports here are idols. Cheating songs have pretty much ruled the airwaves for a very long time. One can see how an older show even like "Andy Griffith" became more liberal with each successive series.
Carnality is a breeding ground for the ecumenical movement.
We are pretty much ruled over by those things which we have loved. It's very difficult to object to sodomy, for example, when one has winked at promiscuity, adultery, and sexual immorality within the heterosexual community. Women wanted their liberty and now most have to be in the work force. Most men are still playing around and are absent...etc
Bringing these things out into the open will inevitably cause anger among professing Christians who are not convinced of the importance of obeying the Lord. Lowering of standards is noticeable when your eyes are opened.
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News Item12/31/19 4:04 PM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
For people who hate Christmas, you two are certainly loath to let it die. Are y’all going to keep running down other Christians and patting yourselves on the back until next December 25?
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News Item12/31/19 1:58 PM
s c  Find all comments by s c
True, John. Narrow is the way...
I think that here in the usa ecumenism was a result of compromise.
One would be hard pressed to call the nation "Christian". Adultery and promiscuity have pretty much driven us for many decades and has been and is now all the more glamorized. We don't even blush at the attire of sports teams. Frankly, sports here are idols. Cheating songs have pretty much ruled the airwaves for a very long time. One can see how an older show even like "Andy Griffith" became more liberal with each successive series.
Carnality is a breeding ground for the ecumenical movement.
We are pretty much ruled over by those things which we have loved. It's very difficult to object to sodomy, for example, when one has winked at promiscuity, adultery, and sexual immorality within the heterosexual community. Women wanted their liberty and now most have to be in the work force. Most men are still playing around and are absent...etc
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News Item12/31/19 10:41 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
s c wrote:
It really is becoming more difficult to distinguish the church and the world.
In the UK, the ecumenical movement is largely responsible for bringing this about. The cutting edge of the gospel has been blunted; no-one believes in hell anymore; accept the LGBT crowd; let's have more women in the pulpit; welcome a worship band who are enjoyed and who pander to the flesh; be good to be saved; don't evangelise any more; attract people to the church building by having food and drinks on tap; forget the name of Jesus; don't bring God into the after-meeting conversations etc. etc.

True believers will hold fast the great doctrines of the Christian faith, even if they are persecuted for doing so. The Lord Jesus will take care of his own. He has loved them with an everlasting love, and although they die, they will never perish. Hallelujah!

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News Item12/31/19 9:59 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Concur.
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News Item12/31/19 9:57 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
To be honest here, you saying the following

However, it appears you are fixed to have it that way at any cost.
When serious about searching, a steady read of primary sources helps rather than searching the Web for the sensational.

would be deemed by most to be an “undercovered” personal insult.  Maybe you should look in the mirror on your criticism of QC and myself.

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News Item12/31/19 9:22 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
B. McCausland wrote:
Unfortunally, QC and Unprofitable, it appears... regretfully that some cannot leave a discussion without resorting to undercovered personal insult.
I am not sure what undercover personal insult I departed the discussion with. You (and please correct me if I am wrong)have more than once stated that quotes shared in this thread that don't match your thinking were unreliable basically just because you said it was. That, sister, is nothing more than your opinion, to which you are entitled. My comment was not intended as an "undercover insult" but a statement of summary of your posts. My apologies if it came across as an insult.
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News Item12/31/19 7:49 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Thanks ... It appears that...
Unfortunally, QC and Unprofitable, it appears... regretfully that some cannot leave a discussion without resorting to undercovered personal insult.
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News Item12/31/19 5:53 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
... actions speak louder than words
"... let none that wait on thee be ashamed:
let them be ashamed which transgress without cause.
Shew me thy ways, O LORD;
teach me thy paths.
Lead me in thy truth, and teach me:
for thou art the God of my salvation"

Peace to them walking in Truth, as nothing shall offend them

"Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them"
Psalm 119:165

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News Item12/31/19 5:17 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
James Thomas wrote:
I don't think there is anything wrong with sharing perspectives of scripture but the trick is not doing it without sounding like a tinkling cymbal or as Col. 4:6 instructs our words be seasoned with salt.
Good morning James,

The chapter you reference 1 Corinthians 13 is most instructive. Some say that actions speak louder than words, and Paul is saying that actions alone are insufficient in God's eyes. All actions of Christian people must stem from love, and this love must be the driving force. The ability to speak the heavenly language but without love makes me into sounding brass or clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy, and can understand all mysteries, and have big faith that can move a mountain, yet if I do not have love I am nothing. And if I was to give all my goods to feed the poor, yet had not love, it profits me nothing.

It is a love which comes from God, and he is the only person you can get this sort of love from. The Holy Spirit when he indwells us, puts this love in our heart; it is the first effect mentioned in the fruit of the Spirit, Galatians 5:22-23.

It's not always easy to convey love when posting.

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News Item12/30/19 6:37 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Thanks for your thoughts B Mac. It appears that anything that goes against your thinking is not a valid source. The internet is a pretty good resource last I knew and the link wasn’t mine Still appreciate you and your posts. Have a good day
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News Item12/30/19 5:38 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Or reading the posts of people who are more wise in their own eyes than humble, Mrs. Mc.
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News Item12/30/19 4:36 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Once again (see TMC link well researched and documented) we have ample proof that Christmas is not a "Christianized" pagan celebration of our Lord's birth.
The link was inconclusive and partially based on forgeries.
However, it appears you are fixed to have it that way at any cost.

When serious about searching, a steady read of primary sources helps rather than searching the Web for the sensational.

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News Item12/30/19 2:32 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
s c wrote:
It's all paving the way for apostasy..no surprise. It is disheartening to see the church fall into the snares of compromise through media choices and entertainment.
I think that it is so much easier to fall into traps today. We have more preachers and resources than ever but fewer solid teaching. I really do appreciate the solid teachers and brethren who are more discerning. I need the Word to feed on and to better direct others.
It really is becoming more difficult to distinguish the church and the world. It seems that we have that "unplugged" mentality that if there is some small value in our entertainment/lifestyle choices then it trumps all of the other garbage contained therein. I can't imagine any of the followers of Christ in Scripture even considering most things to which we don't even give a second thought.
SC, you and I have reached very similar conclusions concerning what is happening in today's church. Sometimes these things are clear, sometimes we see them darkly, but know that there is something very wrong. The only thing of stability in this ever-changing religious climate is, as you mention....

THE WORD.

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News Item12/30/19 1:53 PM
s c  Find all comments by s c
It's all paving the way for apostasy..no surprise. It is disheartening to see the church fall into the snares of compromise through media choices and entertainment.
I think that it is so much easier to fall into traps today. We have more preachers and resources than ever but fewer solid teaching. I really do appreciate the solid teachers and brethren who are more discerning. I need the Word to feed on and to better direct others.
It really is becoming more difficult to distinguish the church and the world. It seems that we have that "unplugged" mentality that if there is some small value in our entertainment/lifestyle choices then it trumps all of the other garbage contained therein. I can't imagine any of the followers of Christ in Scripture even considering most things towhich we don't even give a second thought.
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News Item12/30/19 1:16 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
s c wrote:
When in doubt, go back to the ONLY standard.
I have been giving this much thought, SC. We know that God's word has always been attacked, starting in the Garden of Eden, but never from mainstream Christianity as we find it today.

This is, IMHO, as a direct result of that lowest of the low technique called Higher Criticism, whereby doubt is cast on the infallibility of the scriptures; and not only doubt, but also a claim (hidden, but it's there) that the Bible cannot actually be trusted in every word, sentence or paragraph.

One has already mentioned 1 Timothy 3:16, which shows exactly who it was, manifested in flesh - it was GOD! But higher critics do not like the fact that God was manifest in the flesh, so they change it. Then they do not like the word blood, so remove it, even though to Christians the word blood is very precious when it refers to the shed blood of Christ, who redeemed them by blood, and atoned for their sins by his blood.

I see SA has restored the text "Faith cometh by HEARING", praise God! It is by the word of God that faith comes. Little wonder the devil will seek to belittle the word of God, so that men will not believe.

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News Item12/30/19 1:16 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
B. McCausland wrote:
Have you ever heard of Christian apologetics?
It is presenting the reason for one's beliefs, and this medium acting as a Christian Forum renders such opportunity. Nothing wrong with this, and it is nothing near about imposing your beliefs or debate, but showing by proper and useful means for instance when someone gets away using as proof of their points dubious sources which need challenged for what they are, forgeries.
The problem is when evidence gets into people's nerves becoming hard to handle.
On the other hand, is truth an absolute or conditional to one's opinion?
If it were the later, we then can agree to disagree; if is an absolute there is ongoing flawed perception which apologetics brings to light.
I think you missed my point.

I don't think there is anything wrong with sharing perspectives of scripture but the trick is not doing it without sounding like a tinkling cymbal or as Col. 4:6 instructs our words be seasoned with salt.

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News Item12/30/19 12:07 PM
s c  Find all comments by s c
...always appreciate your insight, John.
The sad thing is that many are well meaning but we know how that plays out in Scripture as well..
If we just stick to the Word...we would not be practicing "christmas" or "easter" as there are no followers of Christ who did.
When in doubt, go back to the ONLY standard.
Otherwise, we open the door to poetic license and subjectivity something unbelievers can see through very quickly.
So many ask...where is that in the Bible?
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News Item12/30/19 10:27 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
s c wrote:
...
Yes, John...a little compromise ...a little leaven..and I'm not sure that there will ever be any turning back to following the Word...just. ultimately, apostasy.
...
The prophets had the same problem in the OT. Sometimes they succeeded in bringing back God's people from the brink of disaster, sometimes they didn't. But being prophets, they always spoke out what God told them to speak out on at the time.

Personally, I truly believe that the modern form of Christianity, in 99% of professing churches, is either fully apostate, or well on its way to being apostate.

And I must say I don't particularly like saying that or claiming that, because the Dispensationalists have been claiming that will happen since their inception.

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News Item12/30/19 9:34 AM
s c  Find all comments by s c
A significant event in the Bible does not give the church authority to do with it that which they will. God was very specific as to details of how we were to remember Him.
If we are looking to other sources than Scripture to defend man made holy days...we need to examine what it is that we love more than God.
If we compare the modern day Christian to the followers of Christ in the Bible, we will find great discrepancy regarding their walk.
Yes, John...a little compromise ...a little leaven..and I'm not sure that there will ever be any turning back to following the Word...just. ultimately, apostasy.
Why would Christians want to observe days that the Apostles didn't?
We are not RCs . We are not Jewish.
If we follow after man, incl. the false church, we, essentially, make the cross of none effect.
Apparently ..for some, it wasn't finished at the work of the cross..of course, we will wait for spring to observe our Passover... C and E Christianity..and we wonder why a vast majority of the lost just show up at church 2 days a year.
Thank you, Unprofitable...God is my helper where there is none.
Appreciate prayers
...Have not received any emails..still seeking counsel and Wisdom
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