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FRONT PAGE  |  11/18/2019
SATURDAY, NOV 9, 2019  |  11 comments
Catholic Church 'shocked to core by evil of clergy'
The leader of the Roman Catholic Church in England and Wales has told an inquiry the Church was "shocked to the core" by child sexual abuse perpetrated by members of the clergy.

The Archbishop of Westminster, Cardinal Vincent Nichols, said the community had struggled to cope with "the presence of evil embodied in its members".

He said the Church's culture had improved "radically" in recent years, but there was still "more to achieve".

Victims said changes had been "slow".


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News Item11/10/19 11:47 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Amen, Brothers, I do. But as your Bibles read for this verse, "weeping may endure for a night, but joy cometh in the morning," Psalm 30:5

Blessed are they that mourn: for they shall be comforted.
Blessed are they which hunger and thirst for righteousness: for they shall be filled. - Matthew 5:4,6

I've always understood those two verses to be linked in that what is mourned in verse 4 is our sin as what is hungered and thirsted for in verse 6 is righteousness.

Yes, we do mourn for the sin battles we still fight. So did the Apsotle Paul as described in Romans 7. But then comes Romans 8:1, 2 Peter 1:1, etc. We are redeemed. So while we mourn, we also rejoice in Christ alone.

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News Item11/10/19 12:15 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Dr. Tim wrote:
Amen, Brother John. People give all kinds of reasons why they’ll be glad to get to heaven—no sickness or pain, reunion with loved ones, etc. While these are all valid, for my own part I think the thing I look forward to most is saying goodbye forever to my own corruptions. No tempter! No temptation! No more sin nature! No wonder we shall be forever praising King Jesus.
Praise there will be magnificent, bro! And I must say it is delightful to know someone else who knows what it is to lament. It is good to rejoice in the Lord alway, but there is always that lament over sin and the sinful nature, our inheritance from Adam, because in him we sinned. For me to also say goodbye to mine own corruptions will be a super joy, a day of rejoicing.

I believe the Quiet Christian also understands this.

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News Item11/9/19 5:11 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
I didn't read the article.

I have read where something like 40 some percent of priests are homosexual. And as we know, many homosexuals are pedophiles. I understand they have sex with each other and then simply confess to each other and forgive the other's sin. The below is a typical priestly response in the confessionals after you vainly repeat the hail mary's, our fathers and acts of contritutions:

May our Lord Jesus Christ absolve you; and by His authority I absolve you from every bond of excommunication (suspension) and interdict, so far as my power allows and your needs require. [making the Sign of the Cross:] Thereupon, I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.

Notice the expression “I absolve your from your sins”. They really mean that!

There are no clergy in the catholic church that are remotely even surprised by these pedophiles, much less shocked.

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News Item11/9/19 3:07 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
"SIN is AGAINST MAN’S PRESENT GOOD, in this life.
Against the good of his body and the good of his soul. For on both it has
brought a curse and death.

"It (Sin) has corrupted man’s blood, and made his body mortal, thereby rendering it a vile body. Our bodies, though made of dust, were more precious than the fine gold; but when we sinned, they became vile bodies. Before sin our bodies were immortal (for death and mortality came in by sin), but now alas they must return to dust. It is appointed to all men once to die, and it is well if they die but once, and the second death have no power over them. They must see corruption, or the equivalent of death, i.e. a change; for this flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of God, as that with which we were created might possibly have done (1 Cor I5.50). Our body is sown in corruption, in dishonour, in weakness (I Cor 15.42-43), and is therefore called vile (Phil 3.21). Before this body is laid in the grave, it is languishing, in a continual consumption, and dying daily, besides all the dangers that attend it from without" (R.Venning. 'Sinfulness of Sin)

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News Item11/9/19 12:11 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Couldn't agree more, Brothers Tim & John.

Anyone who is surprised by the evil that dwells in people's hearts has never compared him or herself to that Perfect Standard and come away wanting. While people can forget, forgive me Lord Jesus, those of us who keep an eye on that mirror know it too well:

And be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves. For if any hear the word, and do it not, he is like unto a man, that beholdeth his natural face in a glass. For when he hath considered himself, he goeth his way, and forgetteth immediately what manner of one he was. - James 1:22-24

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News Item11/9/19 10:27 AM
Dr. Tim | Way Down Yonder  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Amen, Brother John. People give all kinds of reasons why they’ll be glad to get to heaven—no sickness or pain, reunion with loved ones, etc. While these are all valid, for my own part I think the thing I look forward to most is saying goodbye forever to my own corruptions. No tempter! No temptation! No more sin nature! No wonder we shall be forever praising King Jesus.
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News Item11/9/19 9:28 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
The Quiet Christian wrote:
Total depravity is a lot like gravity. You have leave this world to escape them.
Yes, the heart is deceitful above all things and desperately wicked, who can know it?

The heart is not merely wicked, it is desperately wicked. All of mankind therefore is capable of all kinds of lawbreaking.

Jeremiah 17:9-10 KJV
(9)  The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
(10)  I the LORD search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.

What joy it will be to leave this world.

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News Item11/9/19 9:24 AM
Thankful to God | Florida  Find all comments by Thankful to God
Shocked?????
Shocked?????
WHY?????
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News Item11/9/19 8:43 AM
Violet | Missouri  Find all comments by Violet
Why do we marvel? There should be no expectation of salvation until there is real conviction, real repentance, and real belief in the salvation provided by Christ alone - not penance, not other intercessors, not repetitive prayers, etc.
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News Item11/9/19 5:10 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50320800 (Child sex abuse inquiry: Catholic Church 'shocked to core by evil of clergy') and of course link given SA itself
Good article from the BBC in especially pointing out,
BBC wrote:
Richard Scorer, specialist abuse lawyer at Slater and Gordon, who acts for 27 abuse victims in the inquiry, said: "Cardinal Nichols's evidence will cut little ice with victims.

"The Catholic Church has spent the last two decades promising to get safeguarding right, but the evidence in this inquiry has exposed these promises as so much hot air."

Mr Scorer said improvements had been "lamentably slow", treatment of survivors was "consistently poor" and the Catholic Church's structure and culture meant it was "incapable of delivering the changes survivors need".

https://tinyurl.com/jyztfs7 (Abuse by Priests)! with
https://tinyurl.com/hs3yvm7 (Abuse Tracker)
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News Item11/9/19 2:17 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Two off the cuff reactions:

Total depravity is a lot like gravity. You have leave this world to escape them.

If your supreme leader doesn't have a Biblical view of Jesus, detailed elsewnere today, what do you expect?

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