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FRONT PAGE  |  8/20/2019
MONDAY, AUG 12, 2019  |  36 comments
Christian classic tops survey of most-read books
C S Lewis’s classic Narnia story, The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe, has topped a new survey of the most-read fiction books in Britain.

Beating novels by Dan Brown and J K Rowling into second and third place, Lewis’ story of four children who discover a mysterious land was chosen by 33 per cent of respondents.

Lewis wrote that the “whole Narnian story is about Christ”, with the Aslan character’s death and resurrection mirroring what happened to Jesus.


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Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
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B. McCausland wrote:
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2. Did you know that Lewis believed in purgatory?
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Maybe he'd been reading Martin Luther's 95.
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News Item8/14/19 1:23 PM
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1517 wrote:
1. To say Lewis was unequivocally embracing witchcraft ...

2. Lewis ... rejoices in the presence of God.

3. Thanks for proper debate.

1. This has not been asserted as you state it. It is your private deducting reasoning, though truely there are hints here and there of his knowledge, involvement and writings.

2. Did you know that Lewis believed in purgatory?

3. You are welcome

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Seeing you care so much for this author, it will do no harm to come to know the other take about him.

Recommended listening in SA,
C.S.Lewis, by Robert W. Reed
C.S.Lewis- false teacher, by Laurence Justice
C.S.Lewis, the real witch of Narnia, his witchcraft, by Jason Cooley.

These men come from different backgrounds, yet, from different angles, they arrive to similar conclusions and document their findings.

See included below the testimony of Lottie (11/5/2014) from Ohio after listening to Cooley
“The Other Side of C.S. Lewis!”
For almost 30 years I'd only heard the orthodox Christian quotes of C.S. Lewis, so I just knew Pastor Jason had this one wrong! Well, I did the research after listening to this message. I haven't found anyone saying that these pagan/not orthodox Christian quotes didn't come from Lewis."

Take care

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News Item8/14/19 10:22 AM
Carol  Find all comments by Carol
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When it came to the first book of the Bible.

“I have therefore no difficulty in accepting,say, the view of those scholars who tell us that the account of creation in Genesis is derived from earlier Semitic stories which were pagan and mythical”.

C S Lewis

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News Item8/14/19 10:17 AM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
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B. McCausland,

Again, the deferring lies in your court by refefrencing opinion rather than the source material.
I’m not trying too hard to defend the untrainable, I’m stating fact.
To say Lewis was unequivocally embracing witchcraft in practice is connecting something nefarious to his writing which is simply not present.

I’ll leave it alone, Lewis knows for certain now and rejoices in the presence of God. Thanks for proper debate.

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News Item8/14/19 10:01 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
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Mike wrote:
“There is but one good; that is God. Everything else is good when it looks to Him and bad when it turns from Him.”
CS Lewis
Typical Lewis, besides of being internally contradictory, and none accurate, this is a 'nice' saying depleted of engaging truth.
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News Item8/14/19 9:55 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
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“There is but one good; that is God. Everything else is good when it looks to Him and bad when it turns from Him.”
CS Lewis
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News Item8/14/19 9:12 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
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Drs Westcott & Hort and C.S. Lewis are three of a kind: woolly-headed unregenerate Anglicans.
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News Item8/14/19 8:35 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
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1517 wrote:
1. Paganism LIKE witchcraft IS sinful. Paganism being anything not of the true God.
Pagan is no less sinful in PRACTICE than witchcraft

2. Paul used pagan poets and pagan athletic games to illustrate truth.

3. Lewis used mythological illustrations to do the same.

4.... unless you have read the material, you cannot make claims for or against.

5.... appreciate your commitment to preservation of purity,... discernment is necessary to make distinctions between illustration and practice

1. Witchcraft is engaging devils by craft.
Paganism is often a false system of belief that may or may not engage directly on that. It might be a collateral often. You are trying too hard to defend the untainable.

2. Not witchcraft. Where he faced this he burn the bridges, rebuked and separated. You are trying too hard to defend the untainable.

3. He goes beyond this. You are too naive.
You are trying too hard to defend the untainable.

4. Mr. Justice, Mr Reed and Mr Cooley have. Try them.
You are trying too hard to defend the untainable.

5. With Lewis illustration derives from practice

Thanks for your kind appreciation though deferring. It is a worthwhile topic to think about.

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News Item8/14/19 6:55 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
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1517 wrote:
... some have never really read his material. A Problem with Pain and A Grief Observed are two examples of a Christian’s wrestling with pain in all its forms, and grief in particular.
You need meticulous discernment to read Lewis which many modern preachers lack.
Do you know that Dr. Lloyd Jones distrusted Lewis?

Lewis can accommodate any religious reader with his pseudo-plilosophising.
It mesmerises, but nothing more.

As for Narnia, how can a converted soul play hide and seek with witchcraft, something we are told not to ever entertain?

Is it all right to show our children a conflicting source of principle?

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News Item8/14/19 6:42 AM
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B. McCausland,
Correction- never stated not paganism is witchcraft. You actually quoted my statement, but did not comprehend. Paganism LIKE witchcraft IS sinful. Paganism being anything not of the true God. Yet, Paul used pagan poets and pagan athletic games to illustrate truth. Lewis used mythological illustrations to do the same.

Again, unless you have read the material, you cannot make claims for or against.

I appreciate your commitment to preservation of purity, we all need to remain so, hence why discernment is necessary to make distinctions between illustration and practice

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News Item8/14/19 6:12 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
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1517 wrote:
1. Why not reference Lewis material rather than someone’s opinion? Again, Paul used pagan illustrations because the crowd would understand.

2. Pagan is no less sinful in PRACTICE than witchcraft.

3. You would be hard pressed to provide an actual example of Lewis approving or supporting witchcraft/occultism in his writings.

4. Discernment helps in recognizing distinctions.

1. Because it would take too long in this medium in which there is limited space.

These three people, Laurence Justice, Robert W. Reed and Jason Cooley, as given in previous posts, give what you ask in detail on this particular topic.
Take a listen to the three sermons on Lewis they preached.
You will benefit much.

2. Not all paganism is witchcraft.
Sorry, this is an unfounded blank statement out of ignorance. See the proper definitions and concepts.

3. Did you know that Lewis was a member of a "spiritualist" society?
Do not go merely by what he choosed to conceal, but what he did. Refer to the above authors for contexts of proofs you are asking.

4. Yes, please act accordingly

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News Item8/14/19 5:55 AM
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B. McCausland,
Why not reference Lewis material rather than someone’s opinion? Again, Paul used pagan illustrations because the crowd would understand. Pagan is no less sinful in PRACTICE than witchcraft. You would be hard pressed to provide an actual example of Lewis approving or supporting witchcraft/occultism in his writings.

Discernment helps in recognizing distinctions.

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News Item8/14/19 4:51 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
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1517 wrote:
Paul quoted pagan poets and made divinely inspired points using analogies referencing Greek/pagan athletic games. The use of mythological imagery to illustrate truth is no different when it was done by Lewis. This notion he was somehow infiltrating young minds with witchcraft and occultism is real stretch and actually reveals that some have never really read his material. A Problem with Pain and A Grief Observed are two examples of a Christian’s wrestling with pain in all its forms, and grief in particular.
Paul did not medlle with, or borrow from pagan witchcraft as Lewis did.

Please, no harm in being informed.

See here,

C. S. Lewis,
by Robert. W. Reed

http://www.sermonaudio.com/speaker/Robert_W._Reed

"Let him who has ears hear"

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News Item8/13/19 9:22 PM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
Paul quoted pagan poets and made divinely inspired points using analogies referencing Greek/pagan athletic games. The use of mythological imagery to illustrate truth is no different when it was done by Lewis. This notion he was somehow infiltrating young minds with witchcraft and occultism is real stretch and actually reveals that some have never really read his material. A Problem with Pain and A Grief Observed are two examples of a Christian’s wrestling with pain in all its forms, and grief in particular.
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News Item8/13/19 6:33 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Sorry, Adriel, but when talking about 'imagery' we are not talking about imagination, but about symbols that identify concepts, persons, ideas or make connexions.
For instance, knowning of Christ as the Lamb of God immediately, to the knowledgeable, this title of his, connects him to the order of atonning sacrifices established in the OT. In the same way the occult has its own key symbols that make connections inside the craft having its own meaning and significance.

The familiarity of Lewis with such occultic imagery makes it obvious that he knew personally more about the craft than his professional life demanded. Nothing commendable about him to say the least.

More on this line here,
C.S. Lewis - The Real Witch of Narnia-His Witchcraft, by Jason Cooley

https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=11314839573

+ + + +

Douglas Fir,
The answer to your last remark may be partially ignorance, with considerable amounts of carnality and a huge lack of discernment.

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News Item8/13/19 3:24 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
Since 'imagination' has cropped up.........

"Imagination is a facet of the image of God.

The human imagination is not only a great gift of God; it is also an aspect of the image of God. His creative imagination is such that he created the universe from nothing. His mind perceives the past, the present, and the future. And his Word—in its concreteness, in its figurative and descriptive language, and in the way it addresses the reader’s imagination—shows that God himself imagines.

Imagination is important in living morally.

Imagination makes possible empathy, the ability to assume the perspective of someone else. This allows us to “rejoice with those who rejoice,” and to “weep with those who weep” (Romans 12: 15). Jesus is also calling for an imaginative act when he tells us “you shall love your neighbor as yourself” (Matthew 22:39).

fallen.

Like the other faculties of our minds—reason, emotions, the will—the human imagination is fallen. Before the flood, God saw of man that “every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually” (Genesis 6:5 KJV)."

From
"10 things you should know about imagination."
Crossway.org

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News Item8/13/19 2:56 PM
Douglas Fir | Zones Four to Six  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
Being the professor of Medieval Literature is key to understanding why his stories are so complicated--that's what he liked to study and expound upon.
But the recent posts here make you wonder...how did he become such a Darling Writer of Evangelicals?
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News Item8/13/19 10:03 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
1517 wrote:
C.S Lewis never referred to himself as a theologian, in fact, he was professor of Medieval literature. His writings do not presume to e theological treatises, but one man’s experiential understanding and use of conspicuous talent to express it. Does his work have errors? Yes. But does his work express what God has done in man and highlight His divine creation of imagination? Absolutely.
Every writer writes of what he/she knows, or is familiar with.

It appears Lewis knew first hand the world related to occult imagery.
Sadly with this Lewis aided rather to the perpetuation of pagan mythology in children's minds than of Biblical revelation.
Worse is the blending of heavenly imaginary with occult types coexisting in a supposily 'Christian' litery work.
What fellowship can have Christ with Belial?
The only profit of deriving from such practice must be by necessity confusion.

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News Item8/13/19 6:33 AM
1517  Find all comments by 1517
C.S Lewis never referred to himself as a theologian, in fact, he was professor of Medieval literature. His writings do not presume to e theological treatises, but one man’s experiential understanding and use of conspicuous talent to express it. Does his work have errors? Yes. But does his work express what God has done in man and highlight His divine creation of imagination? Absolutely.
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News Item8/12/19 8:35 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
C.S.LEWIS - False teacher,
by Laurence Justice

https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=7610924198

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