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WEDNESDAY, JUL 17, 2019  |  28 comments
Over 15,000 people sign open letter opposing abortion changes in Northern Ireland
An open letter launched by Baroness O'Loan in opposition to extending abortion to Northern Ireland has been signed over 15,000 times.

The letter to Prime Minister Theresa May says that the changes voted through in Westminster last week would "treat the people of Northern Ireland with contempt".

Baroness O'Loan criticised the fast-track procedure used to pass the amendments instead of the standard parliamentary procedure that would have included a three-month public consultation to allow for scrutiny and debate. ...


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News Item7/21/19 1:52 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
It would be necessary to have all the facts to hand before watching such a thing, merely to check it out for accuracy. But most people are watching it to get the facts. Who but Christians, for example, know what the Gunpowder Plot was all about? I've never met anyone yet who knew about that, and why we have a bonfire with a Guy on top. Protestants could be right nasty as well as Catholics, both unregenerate.
John, no one can get to the bottom of all the facts about a particular, except God who was there all the time.

To investigate truth we simply compare primary and correlating topics, sources and issues, which method normally serves to detect flaws and slants.

See, one can deceive some for some time, but not all, all the time.

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News Item7/19/19 2:49 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Adriel wrote:
If Satan gets a vote on this Jeremy Hunt - the Theresa May political Lookalike - will get in and the UK will be punished by the Lord.
The BBC & media are anti-Boris and working hard to tarnish his career.
So the punters may vote influenced by them.
I'm begining to think there isn't a real Conservative Party left.
Don't worry bro, the Downing Street Boys have got Boris's name down for number 10. It's a no-contest really. But if Boris doesn't achieve what Theresa May failed to achieve, then I reckon you could kiss the Conservative Party goodbye for at least the next ten years, maybe twenty or more.

B. McCausland wrote:
On some of those topics you mention usually there is a dishonest slant under hand.
It would be necessary to have all the facts to hand before watching such a thing, merely to check it out for accuracy. But most people are watching it to get the facts. Who but Christians, for example, know what the Gunpowder Plot was all about? I've never met anyone yet who knew about that, and why we have a bonfire with a Guy on top. Protestants could be right nasty as well as Catholics, both unregenerate.
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News Item7/19/19 11:50 AM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
John UK wrote:
Hey Adriel, what about our new Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, promising to get us out of the EU on the 31st October 2019, come what may? I thought it was all a done deal this time around? Or do you think there is yet another sting in the tail?
If Satan gets a vote on this Jeremy Hunt - the Theresa May political Lookalike - will get in and the UK will be punished by the Lord.

The BBC & media are anti-Boris and working hard to tarnish his career.
So the punters may vote influenced by them.

I'm begining to think there isn't a real Conservative Party left.

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News Item7/19/19 11:35 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Sorry to offer confusion, Neil. Thesr forebears arrived in the Colonies in the early 1700s. Not sure the date of arrival, but they were in the Carolinas by the mid-1700s and active in the Revolutionary War about 20 or so years afterward.
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News Item7/19/19 7:26 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
If that be the case, Sister B, then there is no hope for me to gain a true knowledge of history. I do not have the books, and if I did, I have not the wherewithal to read them.
I have seen some good documentaries on TV, well I say good, but maybe there was an agenda which has transformed my thinking. One of those documentaries, a three part series,... the monarch Elisabeth I and her spy network. I think in the last episode it went forward into James I and the plots against his life, including the Gunpowder Plot by Catholics, which was most fascinating. It was a close shave. Other documentaries were on the UK when it was a system of kingdoms and there was no England, Wales, or Scotland at that time. I would love to read about all this, but I am too limited.
In that case a second hand Victorian text book on history for children found in second hand bookshops might be a good start.
On some of those topics you mention usually there is a dishonest slant under hand.

It is not necessarily what is portrait but what is not really said, or the conclusions forwarded to incite the viewer to take a side instead of allowing the viewer make his own mind after presenting all the facts, that makes the difference.

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News Item7/19/19 6:16 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
B. McCausland wrote:
John, the reading of old history books and primary sources, especially from the Victorian age or any sources preceding that time, is a must for true knowledge of history.
TV documentaries often carry hidden agendas and twisted takes about matters.
Regards
If that be the case, Sister B, then there is no hope for me to gain a true knowledge of history. I do not have the books, and if I did, I have not the wherewithal to read them.

I have seen some good documentaries on TV, well I say good, but maybe there was an agenda which has transformed my thinking. One of those documentaries, a three part series, I have watched twice, and it concerned the monarch Elisabeth I and her spy network. I think in the last episode it went forward into James I and the plots against his life, including the Gunpowder Plot by Catholics, which was most fascinating. It was a close shave. Other documentaries were on the UK when it was a system of kingdoms and there was no England, Wales, or Scotland at that time. I would love to read about all this, but I am too limited.

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News Item7/19/19 3:09 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
Actually Sister B, it was a genuine question, not a rhetorical one. My history knowledge is very limited, so that is why I ask questions to try to improve the situation.
I have tried to get a better understanding of the UK and how it came about, through watching documentaries on TV, and it is fascinating to see how it developed from the Roman occupation onwards.
John, the reading of old history books and primary sources, especially from the Victorian age or any sources preceding that time, is a must for true knowledge of history.
TV documentaries often carry hidden agendas and twisted takes about matters.
Regards
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News Item7/18/19 3:11 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
The Quiet Christian wrote:
... Some of these wound up on the border between the Quakers in Southeastern Pennsylvania...
I have doubts only about your chronology. Can you offer dates? James died in 1625, about 90 yrs. before mass Scots-Irish migration to America. If they emigrated before this, it would be historically noteworthy.
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News Item7/18/19 11:38 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Not at all, Neil. My forebears were lured to NI on the promise of tax free agricultural production, for which James VI renegged. Some of these wound up on the border between the Quakers in Southeastern Pennsylvania as a buffer between the Roman Catholics to the south in Maryland (with overlapping charter boundaries with William Penn) and th Native Americans. Quakers did not believe in fighting, but they needed someone who did. The family rumor is that it was a complete disaster for the Quakers. The Scots-Irish got along famously with their Native neighbors. Within a generation, many packed up and migrated south into the Western Carolinas. According to a book I found in my mother's house, a missionary followed them from Philadelphia Presbytery and planted Presbyterian churches.
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News Item7/18/19 11:15 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
B. McCausland wrote:
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2. Sorry John, you are holding the stick by the wrong end by saying this, exposing your poor knowledge of history.
Actually Sister B, it was a genuine question, not a rhetorical one. My history knowledge is very limited, so that is why I ask questions to try to improve the situation.

I have tried to get a better understanding of the UK and how it came about, through watching documentaries on TV, and it is fascinating to see how it developed from the Roman occupation onwards.

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News Item7/17/19 7:27 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
1. Chris GP, thanks for that

2. "How come there is a small part of Ireland, named Northern Ireland, which is run by the English?"

3. You can extend that to, "How come Wales, originally an independent territory, is now run by the English?"
You can then go on to, "How come the Scots, originally an independent territory, is now run by the English?"
Do you believe the English are quite innocent of any wrongdoing in the history of the British Isles?

1. Yes, thank you Chris for that informative summary.

2. Sorry John, you are holding the stick by the wrong end by saying this, exposing your poor knowledge of history.

3. What happened to the Welsh, to the Scots or to the Irish re. the English cannot be generalised or squared out under one single conclusion as you do.

4. Most of Great Britain's happenings between the 13 and 19th century should be understood as the conflict between faith and religion.

5. The Irish sustained such different indigenous ethics and laws from the English in history that made their politics, diplomacy, economy, and society totally irreconcilable in basic interests.

* * * *

Mike, present nationalisms exist out of blind secularism void of principle, identity, focus, understanding or logic.

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News Item7/17/19 4:54 PM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
The Quiet Christian wrote:
Some of my forebearers went from Scotland to NI at the promise of your king James I, really James VI. That scoundrel impoverished them and they wound up being brought to the colonies here in America.
I thought the mass Scots-Irish migration to America post-dated the Stuarts, unless you're talking about transported convicts, who were all sorts of people anyway - mostly petty thieves.

BTW, royal attempts to colonize and pacify Ireland pre-dated Elizabeth and Protestantism; I was surprised to read that Mary I also established (presumably Catholic) plantations there. This was a continuation of the historic pattern of England messing about in Ireland despite accomplishing little more than provoking Irish revolts. Even the Scots-Irish hated the English.

"[Essex] thought something could be done about Ireland, but nothing can be done about Ireland." - Will Cuppy

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News Item7/17/19 2:50 PM
Chris G P | England  Find all comments by Chris G P
1 interesting note:- In the original referendum by the Scottish Nationalists for “independence” from Britain, but within the EU, which they lost some years ago, one of the main sticking points was that Scotland didn’t actually want to join the failed Euro single currency, which new members of the EU are supposed to do, but to continue with the British pound, knowing they could never have their own exclusive currency!! Three private Scottish banks (Royal Bank of Scotland, Bank of Scotland and Clydesdale Bank), at the moment do have a statutory right to print sterling notes, which are valid tender in Scotland as well as the normal Bank of England ones, though the coins are the same.
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News Item7/17/19 2:26 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John UK wrote:
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Utter weirdness, but money is at the bottom of it.
It figures. People who I suspect would decry slavery, but are willing to sell themselves for money.
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News Item7/17/19 2:18 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Hi Mike, from what little I know about it, there is hardly a Welsh nationalist left in the country, most people are happy to have the English subsidise Wales, and they are happy to leave the EU.

The Scots on the other hand earnestly desire to be freed from those wretched English whom they hate. But, having then lost the subsidy from Westminster, an independent Scotland would be heavily dependent on good trading relations with the EU. So that if the ruling Scottish Nationalist Party succeed this time in winning a referendum for an independent Scotland, and Westminster manages to extricate the UK from the EU, then Scotland will immediately apply to become a member of the EU for financial reasons. Utter weirdness, but money is at the bottom of it.

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News Item7/17/19 2:13 PM
DNP Capstone Writers | New York  Contact via emailFind all comments by DNP Capstone Writers
I have enjoyed every second that I have spent reading this article. I'm so excited to have stumbled upon this post. It is however worth to note that this whole debate of abortion is quite controversial.
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News Item7/17/19 1:57 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Chris G P wrote:
There are multitudes of “liberal” pro-EU anti-Brexit Conservatives, all the Liberal Democrat’s, most of the Labour Party, all the Greens, all the Scottish and Welsh Nationalists, and some pro-EU anti-Brexit Independents, who are teaming up with the globalists, environmentalists and big international business and the mainly leftist media to keep us in the EU, or if not, cobble a “deal” to keep us tied to EU, in a kind of “associate” membership, with elements of a Customs Union, and / or Single Market, and subservience of some sort, however limited, to Brussels and its courts and laws, but without sears in the rubber stamp EU Parliament.
I am somewhat sceptical as to whether we will actually leave on 31st October 2019!!!
Not knowing that much about politics there, it seems contradictory that those labeled
Scottish and Welsh Nationalists would be pro-EU. What kind of nationalism is it, that would prefer taking orders from Brussels?
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News Item7/17/19 1:32 PM
Chris G P | England  Find all comments by Chris G P
There are multitudes of “liberal” pro-EU anti-Brexit Conservatives, all the Liberal Democrat’s, most of the Labour Party, all the Greens, all the Scottish and Welsh Nationalists, and some pro-EU anti-Brexit Independents, who are teaming up with the globalists, environmentalists and big international business and the mainly leftist media to keep us in the EU, or if not, cobble a “deal” to keep us tied to EU, in a kind of “associate” membership, with elements of a Customs Union, and / or Single Market, and subservience of some sort, however limited, to Brussels and its courts and laws, but without sears in the rubber stamp EU Parliament.

I am somewhat sceptical as to whether we will actually leave on 31st October 2019!!!

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News Item7/17/19 11:57 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
The Quiet Christian wrote:
The answer, John UK, is "absolutely not." Some of my forebearers went from Scotland to NI at the promise of your king James I, really James VI. That scoundrel impoverished them and they wound up being brought to the colonies here in America. So their is quite a bit of blame. James didn't come up with his schenanigane by himself. He had English advisors.
...
Thanks QC, and I would imagine that not a few of the Irish were impoverished also. I wish I knew more about it, I was late in life coming to love history.

Adriel wrote:
Don't worry John;
The entire UK will soon come under the Federalist States of Europe.
...
Hey Adriel, what about our new Prime Minister, Boris Johnson, promising to get us out of the EU on the 31st October 2019, come what may? I thought it was all a done deal this time around? Or do you think there is yet another sting in the tail?
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News Item7/17/19 11:07 AM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
John UK wrote:
"How come there is a small part of Ireland, named Northern Ireland, which is run by the English?"
You can extend that to, "How come Wales, originally an independent territory, is now run by the English?"
You can then go on to, "How come the Scots, originally an independent territory, is now run by the English?"
Don't worry John;
The entire UK will soon come under the Federalist States of Europe.

Brussels will "Govern" all of Europe including Britain/UK.

In 1973 we all voted for a simple "Common Market" No problem with that. - Just trade!!!

Today the politicians are turning it into a "Federalist Dictatorship"

Big Brother Federalist/Liberalist/Socialist/Communist

=====

BTW John;
Perhaps these are building blocks to the New World Order??

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