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FRONT PAGE  |  9/19/2019
SATURDAY, JUL 6, 2019  |  21 comments
Kentucky tells church giving away used glasses to homeless it is breaking law
Kendall said he has been helping homeless people for the past 30 years and got the idea during a mission trip to Honduras. Since 2003, he has given away thousands of used eyeglasses as part of an extension of Fern Creek Baptist Church in Louisville.

But the Kentucky Board of Optometric Examiners and the Kentucky Board of Ophthalmic Dispensers claim the practice is illegal because the glasses "are not new, first quality and made to meet the individual's personal prescriptions."

"Optometry Board basically told us we must discontinue this used glasses clinic, even though the used glasses look like new, you can't tell the difference. They don't like that the prescription [is not exact]...but the thing is in all cases it vastly improves the vision," Kendall told Fox News. "I just don't think they're concerned about the homeless people as I am." ...


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News Item7/11/19 3:19 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Why would Kentucky have a problem with giving away used eyeglasses to the homeless to improve the eye sight of the homeless?
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News Item7/7/19 1:45 PM
Douglas Fir | Zones Four to Six  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
What alternate plan does the Board of Optometry have for the problem of homeless people needing glasses? (By the way, what about dentistry?)
What do churches in other states do with this same problem?
I remember the Lions Clubs used to collect used eyeglasses but I think they went overseas.
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News Item7/7/19 1:28 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
I agree! Most drug addicts will primarily steal from those that love them. Loved ones are easy targets to them and even if they are remorseful, they simply do it until the faucet is shut off. Sorry you have had to experience this.
Brother JohnUK. Yes, the heart of the problem is the heart! Thanks for sharing Paisley's wisdom. You do realize that if you run for public office and say that, you won't be elected.
No problem, I was elected in eternity past.

And so were you, Pilgrim.

Hallelujah! Thank you Jesus!

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News Item7/7/19 1:13 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Just a Guy wrote:
We also have a fairly close relative who is a drug addict and homeless. He has been wandering the streets of New Orleans for almost two decades. He has broke every link of trust and support from his family and is now wandering the streets, all by his own doing.
I agree! Most drug addicts will primarily steal from those that love them. Loved ones are easy targets to them and even if they are remorseful, they simply do it until the faucet is shut off. Sorry you have had to experience this.

Brother JohnUK. Yes, the heart of the problem is the heart! Thanks for sharing Paisley's wisdom. You do realize that if you run for public office and say that, you won't be elected.

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News Item7/7/19 12:46 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Now I know that the current trend is to say that alcoholism and drug addiction are diseases just like any other disease. I reject that thought.
Quite so, Frank. They are merely symptoms of the real disease, the problem of the heart, for it is out of the heart that proceeds...........etc,.

The late Ian Paisley wrote a book called "The Heart of the Problem is The Problem of The Heart".

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News Item7/7/19 12:45 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
Frank says...
I also know that when many of the homeless are helped financially, they simply spend the money on more drugs. We actually have a homeless situation in our family, so I may be a little tainted?"

Absolutely true. I saw a homeless person once in Pensacola FL holding up a sign that said "I'm not going to lie, I need a beer". That is the mindset of most homeless people. If they have two legs and to arms, and can stand up in the heat (or cold) for hours, then they can raise themselves out or the mire if they chose too, but they don't care...

We also have a fairly close relative who is a drug addict and homeless. He has been wandering the streets of New Orleans for almost two decades. He has broke every link of trust and support from his family and is now wandering the streets, all by his own doing.

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News Item7/7/19 12:27 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Frank wrote:
Now I know that the current trend is to say that alcoholism and drug addiction are diseases just like any other disease. I reject that thought. I also know that when many of the homeless are helped financially, they simply spend the money on more drugs. We actually have a homeless situation in our family, so I may be a little tainted? Anyway, the below verses have value when considering whether to help or not. Even though I admit I don’t have all the answers, I think they are of course pertinent.
2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.
11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.
12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.
1 Timothy 5:8 - But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.
It may be down the road that abusing recreational maryjane will be considered a disease. Then committees can investigate the problem, with an alphabet soup bureau set up to institute a program to help the victims.
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News Item7/7/19 11:44 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Now I know that the current trend is to say that alcoholism and drug addiction are diseases just like any other disease. I reject that thought. I also know that when many of the homeless are helped financially, they simply spend the money on more drugs. We actually have a homeless situation in our family, so I may be a little tainted? Anyway, the below verses have value when considering whether to help or not. Even though I admit I don’t have all the answers, I think they are of course pertinent.

2 Thessalonians 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.

11 For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies.

12 Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.

1 Timothy 5:8 - But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.

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News Item7/7/19 12:16 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Don't know how things are your way, but most shelters here are run by Christian non-profits from what I understand.
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News Item7/6/19 9:29 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
Excellent points QC. I would totally agree with the government having no business helping people survive. I personally don't even believe that homeless shelters really have a place in a society ran biblically...

Protect us from evildoers, and punish evildoers governments only job...

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News Item7/6/19 7:17 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Good question, JAG. Before President Johnson had government take over primary care for the poor, churches led the way. While certainly not true for all, personal choices (e.g. sin) plays a factor in poverty & homelessness in enough cases. Addressing that sin or the damage by others' sin tbrough faith in Jesus Christ can be lifechanging.

Meanwhile, giving willfully to others who are in need is a personal ministry that reflects Jesus, Who gave us life when we have none. James had much to say about personal ministry of this kind in his epistle.

The Left would have you believe that the church has no business in relieving suffering. This should not be true as it is certainly not Biblical. For example, once upon a time, churches and church groups ran most of the major hospitals. We need to reclaim our role. It is our God directed place.

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News Item7/6/19 7:17 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Good question, JAG. Before President Johnson had government take over primary care for the poor, churches led the way. While certainly not true for all, personal choices (e.g. sin) plays a factor in poverty & homelessness in enough cases. Addressing that sin or the damage by others' sin tbrough faith in Jesus Christ can be lifechanging.

Meanwhile, giving willfully to others who are in need is a personal ministry that reflects Jesus, Who gave us life when we have none. James had much to say about personal ministry of this kind in his epistle.

The Left would have you believe that the church has no business in relieving suffering. This should not be true as it is certainly not Biblical. For example, once upon a time, churches and church groups ran most of the major hospitals. We need to reclaim our role. It is our God directed place.

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News Item7/6/19 4:34 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
I can understand the other side saying it messes up their seeing...

My brother wears glasses everyday, and when I have tried to wear them, I almost couldn't see for a minute afterwards. I wear driving glasses myself, and not having glasses catered to your unique eye condition can really hurt your eyes...

Of course I don't really know what this has to do with a Christian perspective of life?

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News Item7/6/19 3:25 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Years ago I attended a major homeless event in my area. I remember the leader of event telling me that 95% of the homeless are there by choice. IOW, alcoholism, drug addiction or just laziness. But, she said that in order to help the 5% who were homeless by chance; lost jobs or sudden expenses they couldn’t handle, all of the people had to be helped. There was no way to determine which ones caused their own homelessness and separate them out.

Not sure of the point of this comment except to say there are lots of different ways at looking at this issue. Don’t know if it is true, but the internet says a chronic homeless person costs the taxpayers 35,000 per year? Don’t know what part of that falls to me, but that is all they are going to get.

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News Item7/6/19 2:06 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Sounds like a modern semi-replay/parallel of John 9.

When there is a buck to be made, don't be surprised when the idol makers show up and demand justice just like in Ephesis. It's not about the poor in this case, but keeping the $ rolling into the eye care industry.

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News Item7/6/19 12:44 PM
Bill  Find all comments by Bill
People are to blind for there own good.
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News Item7/6/19 8:50 AM
Norm | Minnesota  Find all comments by Norm
My guess is they are waiting for a government program to provide glasses to these people, which will provide money for optometrists. They may even have lobbyists working on it.
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News Item7/6/19 3:55 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Pathetic.
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News Item7/6/19 3:22 AM
Dee | Pacific  Find all comments by Dee
So there's absolutely no truly born again optimotrist out there that is willing to help Kendall if anyone needs further help. Leaving it to our powerful God to intervene if nesesary. You know, like how you God rescued George Mueller many times to feed his hungry orphans.
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News Item7/6/19 3:13 AM
Dee | Pacific  Find all comments by Dee
Why would this board or anybody want to this kind of help to stop. Even folks that have homes sometimes can't afford to get decent eyeglasses. The next thing would be its illegal to feed the hungry. Our God is angry with the wicked everyday. I share his anger.
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