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TUESDAY, MAY 28, 2019  |  62 comments
‘Wow, what is that?’ Navy pilots report unexplained flying objects
The strange objects, one of them like a spinning top moving against the wind, appeared almost daily from the summer of 2014 to March 2015, high in the skies over the East coast. Navy pilots reported to their superiors that the objects had no visible engine or infrared exhaust plumes but that they could reach 30,000 feet and hypersonic speeds.

“These things would be out there all day,” said Lieutenant Ryan Graves, an F/A-18 Super Hornet pilot who has been with the Navy for 10 years and who reported his sightings to the Pentagon and Congress. “Keeping an aircraft in the air requires a significant amount of energy. With the speeds we observed, 12 hours in the air is 11 hours longer than we’d expect.”

In late 2014, a Super Hornet pilot had a near collision with one of the objects, and an official mishap report was filed. Some of the incidents were captured on video, including one taken by a plane’s ...


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Ultra Omega Burn | Austin, TX  Contact via emailFind all comments by Ultra Omega Burn
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News Item7/15/19 11:41 PM
basketball games | New york  Contact via emailFind all comments by basketball games
It is a good and amazing article. Your information is very useful for me and for others. Thank you so much.
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News Item6/2/19 10:40 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Facts sure have a way of knocking holes in a good theory, don’t they?
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News Item6/2/19 7:31 AM
James Thomas  Find all comments by James Thomas
John UK wrote:
The other thing James, is that if an aircraft fixed its controls, so that it neither went up nor down, it would increasingly distance itself from the earth, and if it had enough power, would end up in outer space. Again proving the curvature of the earth, which necessitates an aircraft to be always going slightly downwards once it has reached its optimum height.
Good point bro
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News Item6/2/19 7:11 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
The other thing James, is that if an aircraft fixed its controls, so that it neither went up nor down, it would increasingly distance itself from the earth, and if it had enough power, would end up in outer space. Again proving the curvature of the earth, which necessitates an aircraft to be always going slightly downwards once it has reached its optimum height.
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News Item6/2/19 4:46 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
James Thomas wrote:
How do you explain those who have flown around the world?
I explain it by saying that if men fly "around" the world, then the world must be "round". It's obvious, eh?
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News Item6/1/19 9:25 PM
James Thomas | Fla  Find all comments by James Thomas
How do you explain those who have flown around the world?
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News Item6/1/19 12:14 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
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Hey John, I know you brought this up once before, and I agree, but not in all instances. I'm well aware that I'm not in the habit of naming names, even when my comments might be to a specific person or two. Honestly, I've always assumed that, whoever, would know I was speaking to them in most cases.
Christopher, it is a wrong assumption.

I commend you for taking time out to "drop hints" to certain ones, seeking to drop the temperature, but if those certain ones (myself included) do not "take the hint", then nothing will be achieved.

It is human nature, for sure, that causes one to vainly imagine that, "I'm all right, it's the others. I'm not being argumentative, it's the others. I'm not being nasty, it's the others."

Remember that the prophet tried "dropping a hint" to King David after his abominable actions which resulted in another man's wife becoming pregnant by him, and furthered when he arranged to have the husband killed in war, so that he could increase his collection of wives. But the hint was unheeded; amazing, eh? Until the prophet told him clearly, "Thou art the [guilty] man!"

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News Item6/1/19 9:45 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John UK Wrote:
"Quite so, Christopher. You are quite right to grumble, but let me show you why your words seem to have no effect.
When a thread goes pear-shaped and you have your grumble about anger and about people not posting with Christian love and grace, nothing changes because you do not direct your message at anyone in particular."

Hey John, I know you brought this up once before, and I agree, but not in all instances. I'm well aware that I'm not in the habit of naming names, even when my comments might be to a specific person or two. Honestly, I've always assumed that, whoever, would know I was speaking to them in most cases. Other times, I know I can be pretty general, so like you said, the people who should be taking note, might be pointing their fingers at everyone else, so I get that. Mostly though, I think it would be pretty clear who was being spoken to, and in other cases, I wouldn't name names anyway, because it's a, "if the shoe fits", type of comment, as Frank might say. When it comes to the flat Earth topic, it was one of the cases where I thought the who's who was pretty clear.

So, there's my breakdown, as I see it, but I do agree that it can cause confusion at times, because not everyone is as self aware as others (finger pointing).

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News Item6/1/19 6:42 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Watcher, perhaps you could relieve us of some of our ignorance and lift us out of the Dark Ages by addressing the two seemingly very logical objections to a flat earth theory that I presented in my previous post. Of course if you HAVE seen the earth from outer space and can categorically state from empirical observation that it is a disc, please say so and there will be no need for further discussion.
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News Item6/1/19 5:54 AM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
Personally, I think it would be a really interesting, and fun topic to have a discussion on. Problem is that it always goes off the rails real quick; taking a left turn, and getting heated up about as fast as a conversation on Bible versions does, unfortunately.
Quite so, Christopher. You are quite right to grumble, but let me show you why your words seem to have no effect.

When a thread goes pear-shaped and you have your grumble about anger and about people not posting with Christian love and grace, nothing changes because you do not direct your message at anyone in particular. And so Fred thinks, "Yep Christopher, Archie needs to heed that!" And Archie is thinking, "Amen Christopher, Stella needs to think about that!" And Stella is thinking, "I'm glad someone has called out Benny and Felicity for being rude!" Benny is thinking, "Good on yer, Christopher, I'm glad someone is taking them to task," and Felicity is thinking, "Amen Christopher, that Thomas needs a good talking to!"

This phenomena happens a lot in church circles, because everyone thinks they are so right, the sermon is for everyone else. Hence, "I'm all right, my worship is good...."

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News Item6/1/19 2:00 AM
why should we think  Find all comments by why should we think
Watcher wrote:
And with that wisdom, we can all say without a shadow of a doubt that the earth is obviously round! You would think with all of this ignorance, we were living in the Dark Ages. Maybe we should ask NASA?
that your sources are trustworthy? maybe they like gullible people
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News Item5/31/19 8:30 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Personally, I think it would be a really interesting, and fun topic to have a discussion on. Problem is that it always goes off the rails real quick; taking a left turn, and getting heated up about as fast as a conversation on Bible versions does, unfortunately.
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News Item5/31/19 7:34 PM
Watcher | North America  Find all comments by Watcher
Dr. Tim wrote:
I have never seen the earth from outer space, so I can’t say from empirical observation that it is spherical. On the other hand, if it were flat, you obviously couldn’t sail in one direction and come back to where you started. And surely in six thousand years, someone would have reported on having looked over the edge.
And with that wisdom, we can all say without a shadow of a doubt that the earth is obviously round! You would think with all of this ignorance, we were living in the Dark Ages. Maybe we should ask NASA?
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News Item5/31/19 7:09 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
I have never seen the earth from outer space, so I can’t say from empirical observation that it is spherical. On the other hand, if it were flat, you obviously couldn’t sail in one direction and come back to where you started. And surely in six thousand years, someone would have reported on having looked over the edge.
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News Item5/31/19 4:57 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Yeah, the, mature enough, part being added, threw me off a bit, and could have been left out.

So, here's the issue I've always called into question, minus scripture, and minus any "evidences" from both sides, round Earth, and flat Earth: People just love to talk. Fun fact: Most criminals get busted because they've just got to tell someone else a out their crime. So, here's my thing...imagine the sheer number of people, and people from every nationality, across this "Earth", past and present, who were, and, are involved in the most massive cover-up of all-time, and to date, have kept the biggest, wildest, and most fantastical secret ever, but...not a single peep from anyone who would truly know. NASA, satellite and space telescope operators and photographic viewers, astronauts, cosmonauts, space station visitors, space shuttle ride-alongs, foreign, domestic, and private space program employees, foreign and domestic governments, photographic and video editors, and the list goes on and on. The point is that hundreds of thousands of people, over time, and not a single one spilled, wrote a memoir, or went public with a deathbed confession, etc.? Seems inconceivable, given the information that that they all must be/have been bursting to spill. Secrets like that just aren't k

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News Item5/31/19 1:37 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Thanks brother! You know that I have poor comprehension skills, so I never imagined that's what was being said. Thanks for your artistic rendition of the shape of the earth.
I have never assigned a spiritual value to the shape of the earth, but like you and I have said; the bible teaches it and that is the importance.
Getting ready for my afternoon nap.
Amen Frank. Although there is nothing spiritual as you say to the shape of the earth, we do have to evaluate conspiracy theorists, who, to be sincere, must claim that all spacemen who have ever gone up in a rocket are all lying to us. They have been "up there", they have orbited the earth, have seen the shape of planets etc.

Gravity is key to this, IMHO.

If the earth is round, how is it that someone on the other side of the earth is upside down to me? And I am upside down to them? The only explanation is the power of gravity, not that we are all on the same side of a flat disc.

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News Item5/31/19 1:01 PM
Connor7  Find all comments by Connor7
I wanted to add something else, I think most “flat earthers” have a desire for biblical truth, they don’t want to compromise, etc.

This is something that should be approached in a respectful way. I must say that it’s not really on my priority list, not because I don’t think it’s important, it’s just that I have my focus on other things like The authority of scripture, Textual Criticism, Church History, Mormonism, Logic, etc.

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News Item5/31/19 1:01 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Pilgrim, I think what she is trying to say is that just as a CD is a circle which is flat, so the planet earth is circular but flat.
But anyone can prove this thing once and for all by simple observation. When I took up painting seascapes, I learnt to observe things which I'd never noticed before. One such thing was the curvature of the earth. Anyone can see this, so long as they have good eyesight. Find a stretch of coast where you can view a lot of the horizon. Wait for a really calm day, so that the sea is like a millpond. Then observe the horizon line. You will see it curving downwards to the left and downwards to the right. Now if you were to paint a panoramic picture with a very wide horizon line, and you used a straight edge to draw in the horizon, it will never look correct, because it is not correct. The earth is round, and the horizon line has to show that.
Thanks brother! You know that I have poor comprehension skills, so I never imagined that's what was being said. Thanks for your artistic rendition of the shape of the earth.

I have never assigned a spiritual value to the shape of the earth, but like you and I have said; the bible teaches it and that is the importance.

Getting ready for my afternoon nap.

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News Item5/31/19 12:45 PM
John UK  Find all comments by John UK
Pilgrim, I think what she is trying to say is that just as a CD is a circle which is flat, so the planet earth is circular but flat.

But anyone can prove this thing once and for all by simple observation. When I took up painting seascapes, I learnt to observe things which I'd never noticed before. One such thing was the curvature of the earth. Anyone can see this, so long as they have good eyesight. Find a stretch of coast where you can view a lot of the horizon. Wait for a really calm day, so that the sea is like a millpond. Then observe the horizon line. You will see it curving downwards to the left and downwards to the right. Now if you were to paint a panoramic picture with a very wide horizon line, and you used a straight edge to draw in the horizon, it will never look correct, because it is not correct. The earth is round, and the horizon line has to show that.

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