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FRONT PAGE  |  10/19/2019
FRIDAY, APR 5, 2019  |  11 comments
US Methodists Plot Ways to Resist New LGBT Rules
On Thursday evening last week, 300 United Methodist clergy and laypeople gathered outside their denomination’s regional headquarters in Garner, N.C., to protest a recent vote that bans LGBT people from marriage and ordination.

Their protest was one of many.

Across the country, from Iowa to Michigan and Texas to Wisconsin, thousands of United Methodists who support LGBT rights are rising up to denounce the denomination’s recent decision to strengthen its ban on gay clergy and same-sex weddings.

These United Methodists are signing petitions, taking out newspaper ads and, in some cases, withholding their dues to the denomination. ...


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News Item4/7/19 9:28 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Frank wrote:
Why any bible believing born again Christian would ever attend a Methodist church is beyond me. Their leaders are hirelings and their followers are cultural christians. Methodists are works based and encourage and accept female leaders. The mere fact that they wrestle with these decisions makes them in all probability guilty. What is there to consider regarding LGBT issues?
Great question, Frank. I think with the UMC, one has to look at the individual congregation. There are some who hold positions pretty close to where we are. My wife and I know of one or two, and when we bumped into one church's pastor, he claimed that his is part of a larger group of more conservative churches. How they keep themselves from being assimilated into the rest is beyond me but they apparently have a strategy.

I've more recently heard of fundamentalist Methodist groups which one might assume have split from the mainline denomination, but I don't know much about them.

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News Item4/5/19 3:31 PM
Douglas Fir | Zones Four to Six  Find all comments by Douglas Fir
Good analysis, 'ladybug' of the problems of the denomination from the very start. By allowing women to preach, they were continuing the Isaiah 3:12 curse, where children and women rule. Any society where that happens is doomed.
And, 'Adriel' one answer to your question about why they continue to call themselves a church: "Gee, we've always done it that way"
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News Item4/5/19 3:22 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
From article:-
""from Iowa to Michigan and Texas to Wisconsin, thousands of United Methodists who support LGBT rights are rising up to denounce the denomination’s recent decision to strengthen its ban on gay clergy and same-sex weddings.""

Why do these clearly NON-Christians challenge God and reject the Word of God??

Why not just stop pretending to be a church and call themselves 'Secular' religious groups?

Today Satan is a Methodist!!

2Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not."

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News Item4/5/19 11:12 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
The Methodists were doomed from the start, their co-founder, heretic J. Wesley, was a promoter of free will and other grievous errors, including sinless perfection. Even in his day, he allowed and condoned women preachers, "Women preaching followed in the 1760s (pp. 159-160) with Wesley giving them rules (p. 167). Sarah Crosby “travelled nearly 1,000 miles a year, speaking at over 200 public meetings and 600 class or band meetings” (p. 175). Mary Bosanquet, another woman preacher, “married Wesley’s close friend and defender John Fletcher in 1781, and the couple operated virtually as joint ministers in his Madeley parish” (p. 190). As Tomkins says, Wesley “was a pragmatist;” this was “his deepest instinct” (p. 160). source - https://justifiedbychristalone.com/2008/04/11/john-wesley-the-false-apostle-of-free-will/

JOHN WESLEY WROTE: "I do not love God. I never did. Therefore I never believed, in the Christian sense of the word." source - https://www.sermonaudio.com/new_details3.asp?ID=13559

This denomination has never had a solid biblical foundation, for it was birthed from error by Satan's minions.

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News Item4/5/19 10:45 AM
Just thinking | grapeland  Find all comments by Just thinking
"A recent PRRI poll found that 62 percent of Americans — and 68 percent of white mainline Protestants — say gay and lesbian couples should be allowed to marry legally. That’s a 10 percentage point increase from three years ago."

PRRI poll October 2016
"With only three weeks remaining in the 2016 campaign, Hillary Clinton maintains a double-digit lead over Donald Trump among likely voters (51% vs. 36%, respectively)."

When a contrary-to-reality illusion is desired, present a poll that says so.

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News Item4/5/19 10:26 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
On Thursday (April 4), a group of 30 clergy, bishops and activists led by megachurch pastor Adam Hamilton will gather in Decatur, Ga., to strategize a future for those churches that feel they cannot remain in a denomination that denies LGBT rights. The group met last week in Dallas and has already planned a longer two-day meeting at Hamilton’s 22,000-member Church of the Resurrection in Leawood, Kan., next month.

A recent PRRI poll found that 62 percent of Americans — and 68 percent of white mainline Protestants — say gay and lesbian couples should be allowed to marry legally. That’s a 10 percentage point increase from three years ago. Same-sex marriage has been the law of the land since a 2015 Supreme Court ruling that such couples have a constitutional right to marry.

The above is from the article.

Why any bible believing born again Christian would ever attend a Methodist church is beyond me. Their leaders are hirelings and their followers are cultural christians. Methodists are works based and encourage and accept female leaders. The mere fact that they wrestle with these decisions makes them in all probability guilty. What is there to consider regarding LGBT issues?

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News Item4/5/19 9:11 AM
Just thinking | grapeland  Find all comments by Just thinking
Jim Lincoln wrote:
While old rich white guys dominate the theology of evangelical churches, it appears that rich white queers, are also heard too loudly in mainline churches when it comes to theology
What is surprising is the number of Western and Southern American Methodist churches that support this obscenity ❗
excerpt from, "US Methodists plot ways to resist new LGBT rules"
https://tinyurl.com/y2q9o6ug
James 2
5 Listen, my beloved brothers. Didn’t God choose those who are poor in this world to be rich in faith, and heirs of the Kingdom which he promised to those who love him?
6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Don’t the rich oppress you, and personally drag you before the courts?
What does either group's color have to do with anything? Are you a liberal?
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News Item4/5/19 9:09 AM
Wayfarer pilgrim | Lubbock, Tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer pilgrim
This like the movie, “ Grizzly Man”, an unstable man welcomes and befriends bears , singing songs , laughing, such a wonderful time. Till an old bear decides he’s hungry and rips open “Grizzly man’s” tent, eats the happy camper and then eats his girl friend.
Do not affiliate yourself with unrepentant , unregenerate visitors who usurp power and authority over the repented believers in the church. The church is for the saved, and for the glory of God.
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News Item4/5/19 8:45 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
While old rich white guys dominate the theology of evangelical churches, it appears that rich white queers, are also heard too loudly in mainline churches when it comes to theology

What is surprising is the number of Western and Southern American Methodist churches that support this obscenity ❗

Yonat Shimron wrote:
The conflict may have already hurt the denomination financially. Receipts from member churches, called apportionments, are down 15.6 percent so far this year compared with 2018. Receipts in March alone — one month after the special General Conference in which the church voted to strengthen LGBT restrictions — were down 20 percent over March 2018, according to financial reports posted by the denomination online.....
excerpt from, "US Methodists plot ways to resist new LGBT rules"

https://tinyurl.com/y2q9o6ug

James 2
5 Listen, my beloved brothers. Didn’t God choose those who are poor in this world to be rich in faith, and heirs of the Kingdom which he promised to those who love him?
6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Don’t the rich oppress you, and personally drag you before the courts?

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News Item4/5/19 3:39 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Genesis 19:5
And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
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News Item4/5/19 2:15 AM
Citizen | USA  Find all comments by Citizen
Hang in there brothers and sisters of Christ, don’t giv in to the world, the flesh, or the devil...

Don’t alllow any abomination to be legitimatized, reject evil, do good... honor Christ the King!

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