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FRONT PAGE  |  1/27/2020
SUNDAY, MAR 17, 2019  |  34 comments
Charlotte Pence Fights Abortion, Tells Millennials it Is an Important Social Justice Cause
Charlotte Pence, the daughter of Vice President Mike Pence, speaks up on the issue of abortion, exhorting millennials to recognize that the fervor surrounding social justice needs to extend to fighting the promotion of abortion, identifying abortion as an “oppression in its barest form,” reports Christian Post.

“The unborn – and others affected by abortion – are the marginalized members of our society,” she writes, “whose voices we are not hearing because their future has been decided for them.”

A graduate student at Harvard Divinity School, Charlotte Pence wrote in a Tuesday editorial in the Washington Times that her generation must concern itself with the protection of the rights of unborn children if millennials are to justly apply their social justice causes according to “a state or doctrine of egalitarianism.” ...

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News Item3/22/19 11:43 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Good for Charlotte Pence.

News Item3/21/19 6:46 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Sadly, Bourgoin, this is already in force. The elderly are often left to die without the full scope of care a younger person would receive. The Nazis of old called them "useless eaters." The Nazis who today masquerade as Liberals have different, softer terms of art. Same evil. May they come to the same end.

News Item3/20/19 6:43 PM
Bourgoin | SC  Find all comments by Bourgoin
Maybe we should legalize murder at any age since everyone doesnt have UHC. This way the elderly,the sick , the physically or mentally challenged and the unborn couldn't run the healthcare cost up. LORD help those who are so blind and come to realize that murdering an unborn child cannot be legitimized.

News Item3/18/19 11:36 AM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
Amen; Ladybug, as we definitely have been graciously towards Jim. As Jim Roman road conversion, needs to be repented of, as Jim fruit baring on here. Reflects bad fruit, that one is self-deceived! That doesn’t line up with sound theology, that changes one life, through on going humility, that directs one life, to seek out personal holiness into their life. That can only come from a on going personal relationship with the Lord, as One only true Master. As Jesus isn’t liken to a flu shot, O’ I have already gotten one of those already; LK 6:46!

Spurgeon; True regeneration implants a hatred of all evil; & where one sin is delighted in, the evidence is fatal to a sound hope.

Spurgeon; If the man doesn’t live differently from what he did before, both at home &
abroad, his repentance needs to be repented of, & his conversion is a fiction.


News Item3/18/19 10:36 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
I agree QC

Jim already thinks he is a Christian - he followed the'Roman road'. The 'Jesus' Jim adheres to is a god of his own understanding.

Obeying the word of God is the solution to stopping the murdering of babies. Calling it what it is - murder - then enforcing Gen. 9:6. That will never happen in a world that is in opposition to God and His word, a world that is under the sway of the evil one.

It isn't whether or not we claim to know Jesus, for He will say 'I never knew you' to the 'religious'.


News Item3/18/19 10:30 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Jim, your argument doesn't make sense and is akin to a particular Senator who made the same agrument for the legalization of marijuana. Your argument, in fact, doesn't even hold water. If economics are the real driver of abortion, then why are you worried about the marginialized classes being targeted? If someone commits a crime, should they not be caught and prosecuted? No, Jim, UHC is not the panacea to make "abortion legal and rare" in this nation. What comes out of a man's, or woman's, heart is what makes that person clean or unclean, not his or her wallet or health insurance. It is the Lord Jesus and the Holy Spirit who proceeds from the Father and the Son by the will of the Father who declares us clean and then actually begins the process of cleaning us up. The Lord is the solution to abortion. But this flows directly from the Lord and not through the government.

News Item3/18/19 10:24 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Absolutely agree that he must be challenged, like myself, when what is communicated doesn't seem right. But we must pepper our rebukes with the Gospel or we become like him, just from the opposite polarity. Our weapons are not of this world. Let Christ and Him cruxified be what we are known for as well as the truth.

News Item3/18/19 9:52 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Good morning QC,
We desire to see sinners saved, yes. Does this mean we let Jim go on pushing his evil agenda without confrontation? His latest comment he quotes his never-ending attempt to support killing babies, then proposes the taxpayers foot the bill for this murder. Again, he was given 1 Timothy 5:8 showing the responsibility of providing for one's own household. He maligns the word of God, except when he can use it to twist and support his agenda. He quotes M.O., but, God has already spoken and stated He hates the shedding of innocent blood (Prov. 6). That is irrelevant to Jim. The only way to end abortion is to call it what it is, murder, punishable by death.
Jim has been given God's word concerning murdering the innocent. No matter how one sees it, God never accepts killing, even under the guise of UHC. Jim is against ending the slaughter of babies, even when shown from the word of God his sin, he ignores that.
Overlooking his agenda isn't biblical either, for even John the Baptist pointed Herod to his sin, and Stephen called out a crowd of people who were stiff necked.
Jim doesn't have ears to hear, as his comments attest to... so now what do we do? We pray, and we use the word of God to show him his sins - like murder, and supporting a Socialist agenda.

News Item3/18/19 8:30 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Never said I could save anyone, but I can also tell you that you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar. It is also loving to point to the coming make of fire and emplore the unsaved to run.

No, my point is that the Lord, who clearly doesn't need us, is condescending to work through, often in spite of perhaps, our efforts to tell others about Jesus. He doesn't have to do so. But that is very often how He works. For faith cometh by hearing.


News Item3/18/19 2:34 AM
Matt brown  Contact via emailFind all comments by Matt brown
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News Item3/18/19 2:28 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Michelle Oberman wrote:
...banning abortion will not make it go away and that without doctors to charge, law enforcement will wind up targeting the poorest, most marginalized women — our battle over legalized abortion seems misguided. The rise of abortion drugs simply throws into sharper relief what we have always known: Abortions rates are driven not by legality but by economics. Half of the abortions in the United States take place among women below the federal poverty line.

People of good faith on both sides of the abortion war know that the best way to lower abortion rates is to deal with what causes women to want to abort in the first place. Rather than ending abortion, criminalizing abortion will merely create new ways in which the state can intensify the misery of the poorest among us.

--"What Happens When Abortion Is Banned?"

Antiabortionism without universal healthcare is ignorance at best, and hypocrisy at worse, and fewer voters wull put up with it.


News Item3/18/19 2:14 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Another problem is that Jim thinks he is a true Christian. The hardest ones to reason with are the religious.
Again, we pray for him, nothing excuses him for pushing a Satanic agenda.

News Item3/18/19 1:13 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Exposing Jim's agenda is not unloving. As for wooing him, do you have the power to change Jim's heart? Do you have the power to open his blind eyes and deaf ears?
It seems you forget it is GOD who saves, it is GOD who elects unto life. IF Jim has been ordained for life, then God will take what has already been given and regenerate him.
Jim's heart may never be changed, we do not know. So praying is the only thing we have left after the true Gospel has been given.

We do not 'lead' anyone to Christ, the power to save lies in the preaching of the biblical Gospel. We implore, we reason, etc. It is God who draws - John 6:44. It is God who elects, it is God who grants faith and salvation - Eph. 2:8,9. It is God who grants repentance as well - 2 Timothy 2:25. No man or woman has anything in them that draws, woos, leads, etc. There are no examples in the bible of such language. Romans 1:16 makes it clear, 'For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for IT is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.'

No matter how hard you work at it, you can't save anybody.


News Item3/18/19 12:58 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
I have been praying for Jim and will continue. But we have an obligation to ensure we speak the truth in love to him. It is for three reasons. I have rarely seen anyone browbeaten into the Kingdom of Heaven. Instead, people tend to be wooed. Second, outsiders who look in have challenged several of those who have spent the most effort toward trying to help Jim, like NeedHim, when they showed up in the middle. Third, continuing to share the Gospel may also lead someone who is only reading but not posting to the Lord in repentence and faith. I think choosing to ignore him only sends the wrong, convoluted message to anyone seeking truth here. So We're kind of stuck where we are until Jim's heart is changed.

News Item3/18/19 12:32 AM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
A accurate reflection that comes to here, blowing in from Lincoln, Strange Fire!

Modern society is hypnotised by socialism. It’s prevented by socialism from seeing the mortal danger its in. One of the greatest dangers of all is that you have lost all sense of danger. You can’t even see where it’s coming from as it moves swiftly towards you. Socialism of any type leads to a total destruction of the human spirit… to destroy a people, you must first sever their roots.” - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Strange Fire, as the Lord doesn’t like; Num 26:61 And Nadab and Abihu died when they offered profane fire before the Lord.


News Item3/17/19 5:20 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
QC- Jim has had abundant truth given here, it's better to leave off from casting any more pearls and pray. Only God can give him ears to hear, a continual proclamation of the Gospel isn't what is needed. He has heard of Christ, of salvation by grace, yet he remains in darkness. In due time, God will either save Jim or leave him to his 'god' of politics.

This bill was the brainstorm of a Democrat here in Illinois -

Why do we need to distinguish based on sexual perversion? Why is it necessary to point out a person who has made a contribution in a positive way is a sodomite? How does a child benefit from that? The evil of politics has brought about MUCH sin in America.


News Item3/17/19 5:08 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Ladybug Wrote:
"...and before you know it, their way becomes the law of the land."

Right you are, and the proof is already all around us. Who would have thought that the homosexuals would be allowed to infiltrate the pubic school system, and librarys, right on down to kindergarten? Who would have thought that a 5yr olds story time would become about a boy named Jazz, and how he was born with a boys body, but a girls brain? Who would have thought 9yr olds would be getting hormone blockers until they decide which gender they feel like they are? Who would have thought the transgender agenda would become a part of a school systems curriculum? Who would have thought people would cheer, and clap wildly, when a bill allowing the murder of perfectly healthy full-term babys, inside, and outside of the womb, was introduced, and approved?

I could go on, but the point is that the days of, "that'll never happen" are gone. Like we were discussing the other day, given the present mindset, is legalized pedophilia really that far fetched?


News Item3/17/19 5:04 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Errrr...whom else is going to offer Jim the Gospel?

News Item3/17/19 5:03 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Whole is offering Jim the Gospel?

News Item3/17/19 4:53 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Perhaps a better question is why does SA allow Jim to come to this forum and argue against the word of God? Murder is murder, regardless of UHC. Being poor is no excuse to kill your child, as Jim is trying to claim. 1 Timothy 5:8 makes it clear, a man is to support his family - that would include his children. Immoral behavior is rampant and illegitimate children are the end result. Responsibility and accountability need to be taught and enforced on society. Politics cannot 'fix' what is wrong with this nation.

Politics are evidently the only thing Jim cares about, he comes here every day to defend the Democratic party and their anti-God agenda. That does NOT mean the Republicans are any better, for they aren't. Politics are all evil, greedy men and women playing the public, acting as though one party has a better agenda than the other. Don't be fooled.

America is STILL killing babies every day, sodomites are STILL marrying, perversion is demanding its way under the guise of some mystical 'right' these unregenerate sinners claim to have, and before you know it, their way becomes the law of the land.

Satan's minions will always find a way to do his bidding, it's shameful that SA makes it easy for Jim to do just that.

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