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FRONT PAGE  |  2/20/2019
TUESDAY, JAN 15, 2019  |  25 comments
Anglican ambassador to Vatican: Jesus didn't physically rise from dead

The Archbishop of Canterbury is being asked replace a new ambassador to the Vatican after reports surfaced that he doesn't believe Jesus physically resurrected from death.

After Dr. John Shepherd was appointed as the new representative to Rome last week, a 2008 Easter sermon resurfaced in which he said: “It’s important for Christians to be set free from the idea that the resurrection was an extraordinary physical event, which restored to life Jesus’s original earthly body. The resurrection of Jesus ought not to be seen in physical terms, but as a new spiritual reality.”

He added how the disciples merely “felt his presence after his death” and the Gospel accounts in the Bible were not “historical records as we would write history today,” The Telegraph reports. ...


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News Item1/18/19 10:22 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Dr. Tim wrote:
I was already under deep conviction when I “just happened” to find that tract on the side of the road. I’m sure glad you “just happened” to listen to that tape. And that millions of others “just happened” to be in the right place at the right time for the sword of the Spirit to pierce their hearts and the power of God unto salvation to enlighten their eyes.
Wonderful grace of Jesus,
Greater than all my sin;
How shall my tongue describe it,
Where shall its praise begin?
Taking away my burden,
Setting my spirit free;
For the wonderful grace of Jesus reaches me.
Amen bro.
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News Item1/18/19 8:34 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
I was already under deep conviction when I “just happened” to find that tract on the side of the road. I’m sure glad you “just happened” to listen to that tape. And that millions of others “just happened” to be in the right place at the right time for the sword of the Spirit to pierce their hearts and the power of God unto salvation to enlighten their eyes.
Wonderful grace of Jesus,
Greater than all my sin;
How shall my tongue describe it,
Where shall its praise begin?
Taking away my burden,
Setting my spirit free;
For the wonderful grace of Jesus reaches me.
24

News Item1/18/19 5:57 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Dr. Tim wrote:
I got saved through reading a tract, John.
Dr Tim, that is a most wonderful thing, and most encouraging for anyone who is thinking of getting out into the world of sin with a pack of tracts in their bag, determined to let the people know that there is a Saviour who is both willing and able to save all that come to him in repentance, believing on him as the Son of God who loved them and died for them.

I got saved through listening to three men give their testimonies (recorded on a quarter inch reel of tape). This was just in time, because I planned to erase all the tape so that I could begin recording my own electronic music, which was why I bought the tape machine (with a box full of tapes) in the first place.

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News Item1/17/19 4:36 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
I got saved through reading a tract, John.
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News Item1/17/19 3:11 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
OH yes HE did.

1Cor 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
5 And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve:
6 After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep.
7 After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles.
8 And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time.

12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?
13 But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen:
14 And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.
15 Yea, and we are found false witnesses of God; because we have testified of God that he raised up Christ: whom he raised not up, if so be that the dead rise not.
16 For if the dead rise not, then is not Christ raised:
17 And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins."

Seems this guys faith is vain!!🤷‍♂️

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News Item1/17/19 10:48 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Dr. Tim wrote:
Amen, John. The day I found a good gospel tract was the also day the Lord found me.
Doc, are you saying that it was through reading of a tract that the Lord called you to himself, brought you to faith, showed you Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour?
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News Item1/17/19 8:07 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Amen, John. The day I found a good gospel tract was the also day the Lord found me.
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News Item1/17/19 6:35 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Dr. Tim wrote:
Anglicanism is generally corrupt and apostate in these latter days, JUK, but I do believe Ryle was an evangelical in the true sense of the word.
Sorry about that, Doc. I had no space left to comment. Yea and amen, to your entire post. It is tracts like this that I have given out for decades. Alongside chick tracts, which are guaranteed to be read. Superb. Alongside tracts which I wrote and published myself, always with what they called in those days "clipart" to break up the text and make it less intimidating. Yes, there is no telling what a simple tract can do in the heart of a sinner.
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News Item1/17/19 5:13 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Dr. Tim wrote:
Anglicanism is generally corrupt and apostate in these latter days, JUK, but I do believe Ryle was an evangelical in the true sense of the word. Said he, “If you desire salvation, and want to know what to do, I advise you to go this very day to the Lord Jesus Christ, in the first private place you can find, and earnestly and heartily entreat him in prayer to save your soul. Tell him that you have heard that he receives sinners, and he has said, ‘Him that comes unto me I will in no wise cast out.’ Tell him that you are a poor vile sinner, and that you come to him on the faith of his own invitation. Tell him you put yourself wholly and entirely in his hands: that you feel vile and helpless, and hopeless in yourself: and that except he saves you, you have no hope of being saved at all. Beseech him to deliver you from guilt, the power, and the consequences of sin. Beseech him to pardon you, and wash you in his own blood. Beseech him to give you a new heart, and plant the Holy Spirit in your soul. Beseech him to give you grace and faith and will and power to be his disciple and servant from this day forever. Oh, reader, go this very day, and tell these things to the Lord Jesus Christ, if you are really in earnest about your soul.”
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News Item1/16/19 11:10 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Anglicanism is generally corrupt and apostate in these latter days, JUK, but I do believe Ryle was an evangelical in the true sense of the word. Said he, “If you desire salvation, and want to know what to do, I advise you to go this very day to the Lord Jesus Christ, in the first private place you can find, and earnestly and heartily entreat him in prayer to save your soul. Tell him that you have heard that he receives sinners, and he has said, ‘Him that comes unto me I will in no wise cast out.’ Tell him that you are a poor vile sinner, and that you come to him on the faith of his own invitation. Tell him you put yourself wholly and entirely in his hands: that you feel vile and helpless, and hopeless in yourself: and that except he saves you, you have no hope of being saved at all. Beseech him to deliver you from guilt, the power, and the consequences of sin. Beseech him to pardon you, and wash you in his own blood. Beseech him to give you a new heart, and plant the Holy Spirit in your soul. Beseech him to give you grace and faith and will and power to be his disciple and servant from this day forever. Oh, reader, go this very day, and tell these things to the Lord Jesus Christ, if you are really in earnest about your soul.”
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News Item1/16/19 6:53 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank wrote:
Well I don’t think the forum should be used as a social platform; I use emails for that. So your post indicated that Anglican literature in those bookstores simply showed they were apostates. I was under the impression that some Anglican identified themselves as Lutheran so I felt I was somewhat on topic?
And I have never run across a religious church that actually said the things I noted on their web page. So, I just thought you would find it interesting.
No ulterior motive brother!
No problem brother Pilgrim.

Yes I did find it interesting, and no, I never heard that any Anglicans identified themselves with Lutheranism. That was a puzzlement to me. That's all bro.

Of course, not all Anglican writers were or are apostates. My all-time favourite writer, to whom I turn whenever I need help with a passage, especially in the gospels, is that amazing Anglican Bishop, J. C. Ryle, whose warmhearted expositions of scripture always delight the soul and give great encouragement. Liverpool was very blessed to have him there, but I doubt many, if any, of the modern Anglicans would read him today.

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News Item1/15/19 5:49 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
Frank?
Interesting piece of info concerning that Lutheran church, thank you brother. That is astonishing. Just not sure why you mentioned that in response to my post. But it sure is interesting.
"As a Reconciling in Christ congregation". Hmmmm, sounds like another movement, part of the ecumenical movement.
Well I don’t think the forum should be used as a social platform; I use emails for that. So your post indicated that Anglican literature in those bookstores simply showed they were apostates. I was under the impression that some Anglican identified themselves as Lutheran so I felt I was somewhat on topic?

And I have never run across a religious church that actually said the things I noted on their web page. So, I just thought you would find it interesting.

No ulterior motive brother!

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News Item1/15/19 4:33 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Frank?

Interesting piece of info concerning that Lutheran church, thank you brother. That is astonishing. Just not sure why you mentioned that in response to my post. But it sure is interesting.

"As a Reconciling in Christ congregation". Hmmmm, sounds like another movement, part of the ecumenical movement.

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News Item1/15/19 4:09 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
John UK wrote:
"The Archbishop of Canterbury is being asked replace a new ambassador to the Vatican after reports surfaced that he doesn't believe Jesus physically resurrected from death."
Go into any large second-hand bookshop in the UK, go to the religion section, and you will inevitable find some very old, musty books written by Anglicans, about religious subjects. You won't have to read very much before coming to the conclusion, "This man did not know the Lord Jesus Christ."
Hey Brother!

I don’t know a lot about the Lutheran church or the different kinds of Lutheran churches. The below is from the website of a Lutheran church that is very close to me. And yes, they have a sign outside that says they marry without moral stipulations.

As a Reconciling in Christ congregation, we welcome you

...without regard to race or ethnicity, income level, abilities or disabilities

...without regard to whether you own a home, rent, or are homeless

...without regard to sexual orientation or gender identity: straight, gay, lesbian, transgendered or bisexual

...without regard to age or marital status: single, married, separated, divorced, remarried, widowed or partnered.

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News Item1/15/19 4:00 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
Dr. John Shepherd states:
""He added how the disciples merely “felt his presence after his death” and the Gospel accounts in the Bible were not “historical""

Word of GOD states....
Luke 24:38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts? 39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. 40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.

41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat? 42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb. 43 And he took it, and did eat before them."

I wonder how someone is supposed to "spiritually" eat broiled fish???

These ignorant Liberalists in the Anglican church need to stop deluding themselves and their congregations by pretending to be christians. The Church of England employs secular reprobates and even puts them in preaching/teaching roles.

Dr. Shepherd needs to find another vocation because he is obviously not a Bible believing follower of Christ, nor a christian.

"Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son." 1John 2:22.

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News Item1/15/19 3:37 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
"The Archbishop of Canterbury is being asked replace a new ambassador to the Vatican after reports surfaced that he doesn't believe Jesus physically resurrected from death."

Go into any large second-hand bookshop in the UK, go to the religion section, and you will inevitable find some very old, musty books written by Anglicans, about religious subjects. You won't have to read very much before coming to the conclusion, "This man did not know the Lord Jesus Christ."

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News Item1/15/19 2:46 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Foster Walking wrote:
Frank
Thanks for good points.
Ah a fellow Floridian! Thanks for your support. Yes, I can dig up Mohammed, Buddha, Joseph Smith, etc., but not the body of the true Messiah.
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News Item1/15/19 2:05 PM
sc  Find all comments by sc
He sounds like a JW. They don't believe in His physical resurrection either.
No new concept as previously cited.
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News Item1/15/19 1:12 PM
Foster Walking | Emerald Coast, FL  Find all comments by Foster Walking
Frank
Thanks for good points.
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News Item1/15/19 11:54 AM
My Own 2 cents  Find all comments by My Own 2 cents
The "church" of England is like a dying, rabid dog, which needs to be put down with a 12 gauge shotgun to the head very quickly.

I just wish the whole institution would just burn up and go away! 😕

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