1.The tale bearing site you linked does point their undiscerning finger to him personally...quote 'defiantly unrepentant in that racist position he advances' ....' I am speaking of ministers and preachers who openly espouse and teach doctrines that are racist.' 3. So now a South African's sense of humour is a sin, have the debate and bring it into the open where people have the liberty to be persuaded in their own conscience what is true to the Word of God and what is not. If someone doesn't bow the knee to multiculturalism in today's world they are considered racist ... the worlds going mad along with it's 57 gender choices. Where did the word racist originate, if you believe the Bible we are all one race but of different ethnic/people groups so using the term racist is hypocritical indeed, straining at gnats, swallowing camels.. Taken from PH website, people can read where he answers for himself and all the other radio shows he's been on and why. Quote 'No, I am not pro Hitler or pro any socialism whatsoever... 'I have written and spoken against the National Socialism of Adolf Hitler and its secular humanism.'. https://www.frontlinemissionsa.org/responses-to-critical-questions/are-you-pro-hitler-you-have-been-interviewed-on-a-pro-nazi-radio-programme
1. I never labeled PH either a Racist or a Nazi. I said Racism and Nazism is evil, and I said we are to avoid the appearence of evil. Just to be clear, Marxism, Socialism, and Communism are also evil. If a Christian is going to appear on a show that supports blatent evil of any stripe, then it cannot be a covert attempt to find places of agreement. If a Christian went on a Communist show agreeing that holding all things in common is biblical and only pointing to the Cross when the host starts calling for the Blood of the Bourgeois, I would find it just as wrong, and I suspect you would as well!
2. That âgreat multitudeâ composed of âall nations, kindreds, people, and tonguesâ is one unified entity- The Bride of Christ. âFor there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.â Romans 10:12 To call Inter-racial Marriage sin is un-biblical.
3. You can always identify a personâs idols by what they are willing to sin for. PH, a pastor and missionary, has publicaly stated that he is willing to break Godâs commands and murder a fellow Brother in Christ in order to satisfy and avenge his own reputation and pride. This fact alone makes him unfit to lead any ministry.
Listened last night to a podcast so don't assume I'm a listener please. Just said American Vision is an unreliable source, there's more to reconstructionism than 'believing in God's law as the standard of justice... should try listen to link sent in earlier post exposing this false organization and get out of legalist, kingdom now movement..can understand why the fruit of allegations, conveniently leaving out full context. Have you never heard of Christ in you the hope of glory..Col 1:27, you should study more the history of how the Gospel first came to SA, as PH discussed specific time frame, this being the subject in hand if you read properly earlier posts. Branding people as racists and nazis unfairly is the typical liberal tactic just like they call Bible believers bigots wh standing up for truths in the Bible. God is the one who decided on separate tribes, nations, tongues even in Heaven it will so be. Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;' Many different tribes throughout Africa over the last 38 years may be there because Peter Hammond obeyed the great commission. Praise Go
If you donât want to see the original sources because AV believes in using Godâs Law as the standard of Justice, Iâm sorry. However, it appears you listen to the Neo-Nazi podcasts, so you know that what I was saying is not bearing false witness.
âWhat's wrong with saying that?â Because it gives glory to the creature rather than the Creator. Because not all White people spread Truth. Because the Gospel did not originate in Europe, and because Europeans werenât the first to take the Gospel to Africa.
Nazism and Racism are evil. This is a simple statement of fact, not an accusation or slander.
Communists also believe grass is green and the sky is blue. We are all one blood decended from Noah. The only concern for a Christian is that they marry in the Lord- not in skin tone.
Pointing out words and actions un-becoming of a Christian let alone a âPastorâ is only âpersecutionâ in the minds of those who are too proud to recieve any correction. Past good deeds do not excuse current wrong ones such as challenging others to a duel. Throwing the victim card is the last resort of those who have no defence.
"Nazism is evil. Racism is evil" So believing that God has purposely made different separated tribes, tongues and Nations as the Bible says is considered Nazi/racist...or to speak against miscegenation backed up by Communist agenda to overthrow a particular ethnic group holding certain beliefs is considered racist too. That's falsely accusing and slandering a person who by his very missionary life helping poor people/churches throughout Africa proves otherwise. Never mind me being offended, is God offended that damage has been done to a Christian mission ministry in Africa, so can only pray for you. The persecuting self righteous will always try catch/condemn people with words, no wonder Jesus said to them to which work do you stone me? Nothing new under the sun, throwing the race card is part of the new world order's way to instil fear, control and shut mouths.
'Links to the original website and podcasts are in the American Vision articles' Wouldnt see them as a sound source of truth being a a dominionist site. Beware of Reconstructionism by Dr. Paul M. Elliott https://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=716112149113. " He claims that he appears on these shows in an effort to spread the gospel." Well Jesus didn't come for the righteous...Paul continued to preach in the Messiah hating rejecting synagogue's. Yes have heard him lift up Christ and Christianity when host ignorantly detracts on race. "There is no context in which agreeing with the statement âWhite people are the source of the truth and the knowledgeâ is acceptable. Such a statement is rankly humanistic, let alone racist, and stands in direct opposition to Scripture. As you stated yourself 'In Godâs Providence some white people have proclaimed His Truth', therefore in context to the Reformation and the wonderful proclamation of the Gospel and blessings African Nations received, Europeans spreading this truth were technically the source. What's wrong with saying that? Did not Jesus reply to Saul in Acts 9 as he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me, yet it was Christians he was persecuting? ...to continue.
Links to the original website and podcasts are in the American Vision articles I posted, particularly the last one. I cannot look at them myself because our family internet filter blocks them. However, I know for a fact they are Neo-Nazis because Hammond himself says so on his own website (unless, of course, he is bearing false witness against himself). He claims that he appears on these shows in an effort to spread the gospel.
There is no context in which agreeing with the statement âWhite people are the source of the truth and the knowledgeâ is acceptable. Such a statement is rankly humanistic, let alone racist, and stands in direct opposition to Scripture.
Nazism is evil. Racism is evil. For anyone to discriminate against fellow men created in the Image of God, based only on their skin color (or lack thereof) is evil. The actions of the Health Department in the news story are evil.
I only posted on here originaly to give you and others who see your post a friendly heads up about a âPastorâ who supports Neo-Nazi views, believes Inter-racial marriage is sinful, and who believes dueling is acceptable. If you support all that, I can only pray for you. If you do not, then why be offended at the warning?
Picking out certain quotes from a conversation without its full context and meaning ie what is fully being spoken about and why, period of time, place and history can leave anything open to ridicule and misrepresentation so please refer to the so called 'neo Nazi' (socialist, leftist)site where people can see full interview and decide for themselves without American vision's reconstructionist bias. Avoiding the appearance of evil has to be done with great discernment nowadays where evil is called good and good is called evil whereas a commandment you may consider is not bearing false witness. Back to the original news article...the irony how silent you are on the racist, discriminative injustices of Black Economic Empowerment which has caused poverty and exclusion amongst non black ethnic groups in SA!!
We are commanded to avoid the appearance of evil. Going onto Neo-Nazi podcasts time after time implies that you support them. Supporting the hostâs racists statements is even worse.
This isnât about acknowledging that God has used people to positivly impact culture. In Godâs Providence some White people have proclaimed His Truth; some Jews have proclaimed His Truth; some Black people have proclaimed His Truth; some Asians have proclaimed His Truth; and plenty of others have proclaimed HIS TRUTH.
This stands in stark contrast to the claim that âWhite people are the source of the truth and the knowledge, and the best things that have happened on this planet, even for the non-whites.â To which Hammond replied: âWell, without a shadow of a doubt.â
The âbest thingâ that ever happened on this planet was when Jesus was born and gave Himself for us. This Good News was then spread by His Jewish Apostles at a time when most White Europeans were living in twig huts and sacrificing each other to appease the âgodsâ! White people are NOT the source of the truth, nor is any other group of the Human Race- the source of Truth is God and Him alone.
To put context into your picked out conversation, P. Hammond has stated before that even the Zulu King and other prominent leaders have said SA was better under apartheid. Investigate and see for yourself. Is it sinful now to admit there were cultures that have been positively influenced by Protestantism which came from the God given Reformation obviously being white Europeans? By the way, this Zulu King may found it despicable to have cultural relativism/multiculturalism forced onto him. https://www.iol.co.za/news/politics/king-praises-apartheid-regime-1956136
PH: âThe only times that people have gotten into miscegenation has been the death of empires. . . . and thatâs the death of the American and the British Empire too. When you start to allow, to break down the demographic genetic integrity of your people, then that nation will be destroyed. You donât perpetuate your nation by allowing others to come in and take over, and by allowing your own women to breed other peopleâs babies; ultimately it means that youâre being replaced and it means that youâre committing genetic suicide. . . .â
Host: âThey donât even know what black people are like.â ... Host: âWe are moving into a Jewish, liberal, communist world, and in this world itâs a world of nothing but lies, nothing but lies. White people are the source of the truth and the knowledge, and the best things that have happened on this planet, even for the non-whites.â
PH: âWell, without a shadow of a doubt; and thereâs a lot of black people that recognize that; and who say, you know, they prefer to have whites ruling over them because then they knew they were safe and their property was safe, and they had jobs. . . .â
Not sure why my earlier response to 'buckeyes' wasn't put up as kept to forum policies.. so will try again. I wouldn't consider reconstructionist Joel McDurmon at 'American vision' to be a reliable source and would read Pastor Hammond's response/real beliefs without their lens. Nazism is actually far left,socialist (National Socialist German Workers Party)...can assure P Hammond is not this. https://pulpitandpen.org/2017/01/31/american-vision-revisions-spurgeon-as-a-reconstructionist/
This helps to understand what's going on from a Biblical and historically accurate perspective. Peter Hammond Understanding the Present Crisis in South Africa ://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=112218141404342
Good website, that 'amren.com' place. Lots of interesting info. Along with that, I would recommend listening to the "Z Man" podcast, where I learned Liberia has the same constitution as the US of A. I guess a related question to this story is, are Chinese doctors accepted?
I wasnât able to read the article as my internet connection wasnât up to it!!
This news item shows me the madness and hypocrisy of the left. Yes, I disagree firmly with the original anti black apartheid that South Africa suffered under the previous white Nationalist government, but one does not defeat evil with evil.
The new leftist Communist black government of South Africa, as with the leftist activists in USA, Canada, and my own country of Britain seem to wish to commit suicide of their country. With the seizure of white farms, as has already happened in their neighbouring impoverished country of Zimbabwe, and now denying their people desperately needed specialist doctors, because the doctors happen to be white, shows the hatred and zealous political correctness of these rulers and the awful effects it has on the people.
Actually, if we read Genesis, all racism, white against black, and black against white, is sinful, because actually we are all one race, descended from Adam and then Noah, and divided into two sections, the born again of the Holy Spirit , and the lost, who are not yet covered by the blood of the Lord Jesus Christ for their sins, and who need to be born again.