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FRONT PAGE  |  8/22/2019
MONDAY, DEC 17, 2018  |  65 comments
No Separation of Satan and State? Satanic “Christmas” Displays
What would the Founding Fathers have said about satanic displays at Christmastime on government property? Would they have insisted their First Amendment mandates allowing such or that something has gone terribly wrong with their American experiment?

The Land of Lincoln is now more like the land of Satan, because in the Illinois Capitol Rotunda we now “find a nativity scene for Christmas; a menorah for Hanukkah; and, alongside these displays, an arm holding an apple, with a snake coiled around it [shown],” reports American Thinker’s E. Jeffrey Ludwig. “This snake sculpture is a gift from the Chicago branch of The Satanic Temple. Called ‘Snaketivity,’ the work also has a sign that reads, ‘Knowledge Is The Greatest Gift.’”

It certainly is a great one, but it’s also quite lacking in those supposing that the First Amendment’s Establishment Clause mandates such a “revolting travesty,” as Ludwig puts ...


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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
There will be many who will not sing the psalms because they see no relevance to today, they do not see that the Church IS Israel in fulfilment.

For example:

Psalms 2:6 KJV
(6)  Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

Does not David's cry unto Jehovah have any meaning for us today?

Psalms 3:4 KJV
(4)  I cried unto the LORD with my voice, and he heard me out of his holy hill. Selah.

Is it wrong to take upon us this prayer?

Psalms 4:6 KJV
(6)  There be many that say, Who will shew us any good? LORD, lift thou up the light of thy countenance upon us.

Is it wrong to take the psalmist's example and use it in a NT context?

Psalms 5:3 KJV
(3)  My voice shalt thou hear in the morning, O LORD; in the morning will I direct my prayer unto thee, and will look up.

Want a praise song?

Psalms 7:17 KJV
(17)  I will praise the LORD according to his righteousness: and will sing praise to the name of the LORD most high.

The psalms are supernatural and full of variety. They are eminently suitable for worship.

But the devil has successfully stripped them from dispensationalists, and tempted others to discard them in favour of entertainment. So that hardly a church can now be found singing the psalms.

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News Item12/25/18 4:31 AM
Susan Abel | Southeast Alaska  Contact via emailFind all comments by Susan Abel
Brethren,

God has given us a hymnbook in the middle of his book. The question must be asked of the church, Why are we using another?

Look in most modern church hymnals and you will not find the psalms in metric there. The question again, is why? The Psalms were meant not only to meditated upon, discussed, read, listened to, and sermonized, but to be sung by those who love Christ.

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News Item12/24/18 9:02 PM
Yolanda | AZ  Find all comments by Yolanda
You've stated the truths believers need to seriously consider.

The revelation that comes from meditating in the Psalms seems to be a centerfold of all scripture.

Yes try singing them. You'll discover the new song Yahweh has placed in the hearts of his people. He is lovely, altogether and beautiful for situation - the joy of all the earth.

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News Item12/24/18 9:00 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Susan Abel wrote:
Dear Unprofitable Servant:
The power and truth of God's word can be experienced.  Yes, there are many truths set forth in man-inspired hymns.  
…  
I guess it is a matter of experience.  If we have never yet sung the Psalms then how can we know that the concepts and truths realized in the New Testament are prophesied and set down in the Old?  How can we know that Christ Jesus fills every page?  
Thanks for your response.  I am not trying to negate the importance of singing Psalms, but  may I suggest a few ways in response to your question, thanks

1. We can read the truths found there and meditate upon them.

2. We can listen to them being read.

3. We can hear sermons preached from them.

4. We can discuss them with our fellow believers as a means of exhorting one another.

5.  A great commentary like the Treasury of David complied by Spurgeon is an excellent tool for deriving spiritual truths from them.

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News Item12/24/18 8:38 PM
Susan Abel | Southeast Alaska  Contact via emailFind all comments by Susan Abel
Dear Unprofitable Servant:

The power and truth of God's word can be experienced. Yes, there are many truths set forth in man-inspired hymns.

Yet, the truth in Matthew 6:33 and Romans 14:17 and Philippians 1:6 (beautiful words indeed!) are found in the Psalms.

I guess it is a matter of experience. If we have never yet sung the Psalms then how can we know that the concepts and truths realized in the New Testament are prophesied and set down in the Old? How can we know that Christ Jesus fills every page?

Here is a challenge to those beloved brethren of mine: try singing the Psalms, not just Psalm 100, but many more of them, all of them, and see what happens to you. See if you do not see Christ and his truth in them.

"Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself." (Luke 24:25-27).

"And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." (Lu

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News Item12/24/18 7:55 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Susan,

I have no issue with you choosing to sing only Psalms. I am glad you have arrived at that conviction for yourself. Others who post here share your view.

Have to look at a few things though. The big emphasis of your posts were that we shouldn’t sing uninspired words. Yet, you would say that Matthew 6:33; Romans 14:17 and Philippians 1:6 set to music is unacceptable because although it is inspired it is not Psalms.

To say that we shouldn’t use what our Lord Jesus didn’t use requires us to completely ignore the New Testament.

While we know that David penned Psalm 51 under the influence of the Spirit of God, it is still the words and heart of the man, David. Inspired words are for the most part not dictated words, especially in the Psalms.

Hymns are poems set to music and meter. They are the testimony of the work of God and many times are simply Scriptural truths set to music. If the redeemed of the Lord are to say so, then penning their thoughts down is quite appropriate.

You are more than welcome to sing only Psalms. The general instruction for God’s people is found in the last Psalm

Let every thing that hath breath praise the Lord. Praise ye the Lord

Note not one verse in the Psalm says praise the Lord with only Psalms.

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News Item12/24/18 7:49 PM
Susan Abel | Southeast Alaska  Contact via emailFind all comments by Susan Abel
...of the Bible. But our worship should be strictly as God commands.
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News Item12/24/18 6:21 PM
Susan Abel | Southeast Alaska  Contact via emailFind all comments by Susan Abel
Dear Dr. Tim,

Acts 17:11 tells us that the Bereans searched the Scriptures to see if what Paul and Silas preached were true words.

Yes, Ezra was moved by God to teach the people the word of God. I would never argue that point. God gives us ministers and we are to be as the Bereans. If our ministers agree with the word of God, and you find yourself growing in holiness and hating sin more and more, and loving God more and more, then you may adduce that things are right.

We also must be careful in our hearing and reading. It is from the study of Scripture that we learn truth, and the Holy Ghost must open our souls to it. This is the most important book. I am sure that you will agree that the Holy Bible is the most important book of all time, ever.

So if the Holy Bible is the most important book ever, why would we want to settle for less, even in our singing? Why would Jesus want to sing a hymn that was not inspired by God?

So what is your opinion about what the Lord sang on the night of his capture? Historically, Jews sang the Hallel on Passover which consists of Psalms 113-118.

The history of the church, and that includes the Old Testament church, is not to be ignored. Our Lord came to fulfill that history

It is not wrong to be a scholar of the Bi

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News Item12/24/18 5:50 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Susan, if every word sung that is about the word of God but not from the word of God is liable to error, then it stands to reason that every word preached that is not from the word of God is also liable to error, and therefore the man of God should stand and read the Bible without making the same mistake that was made in Nehemiah’s day, when “they read in the book in the law of God distinctly, and gave the sense, and caused them to understand the reading” (Nehemiah 8:8). Also, since anything written anywhere that is about the word of God but is not from the word of God is liable to error, you should immediately desist from posting comments that are not direct quotes from the Bible. And by the way, where does the Bible—not some scholarly tome ABOUT the Bible, ma’am, but the BIBLE—say that the hymn Jesus sang enroute to Gethsemane was from the Book of Psalms? That must have been in the Apocrypha; it sure ain’t in any of the 66 books my Bible contains. Wherever you heard that, it wasn’t in the Bible, and so of course it was and is liable to error.
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News Item12/24/18 4:51 PM
Susan Abel | Southeast Alaska  Contact via emailFind all comments by Susan Abel
The singing of Christmas carols and the singing of man-made hymns was a gradual declension in the church. It was the singing of Psalms that was from the beginning. Jesus did not sing a man-inspired hymn on the night of his captivity but a Psalm.

Every word sung that is about the word of God but not from the word of God is liable to error.

I used to sing all those hymns, too, and I loved them. But you know what? they are weak and paltry beside the Psalms. They sidestep many issues that are point-blank in the word of God. I no longer love these sentimental ditties but feel and acquire strength from the word of God, preached, read, studied, meditated upon, and sung.

The old paths are the best. Tradition may be very old but not eternal.

"Thus saith the Lord, Stand ye in the Way, and see and ask for the old Path, where is the good Way, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein." Jer.6.16.

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News Item12/24/18 11:08 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Oh, ok...sorry for that, then. Yes, I agree, and to be honest, I'd never really considered that other direction. Thanks.😊
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News Item12/24/18 11:02 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
Yep, will do, John, and my comment had nothing, whatsoever to do with Christmas, if that's how it was taken.
No, no brother. It was all to do with things we ought to remember, all sorts of things from the word of God. Memorisation is a wonderful thing; the more we can remember, the better equipped we will be, if ever we find ourselves in a North Korean prison. They might take everything away from us, but we can still have the sword of the Spirit, if only passages are committed to memory. This is why I always recommend the King James Bible, and not to keep changing every time a new one pops up. The KJV is memorable, and I believe the Holy Spirit "sticks" it in our hearts, so that even when we do not have access to our physical or electronic Bible, we can still quote scripture and preach from it, get comfort from it, be warned by it, and so on. Hallelujah!
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News Item12/24/18 10:29 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Yep, will do, John, and my comment had nothing, whatsoever to do with Christmas, if that's how it was taken.
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News Item12/24/18 9:52 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Christopher000 wrote:
All of what God has done, is doing, and will do on mankind's behalf, should be remembered, celebrated, and given daily, and eternal thankfulness.
Absolutely, Christopher. And never to forget God's judgments also, even the flood, the fire bombs on Sodom and Gomorra, and the afflictions on God's erring people.

1 Corinthians 10:6-12 KJV
(6)  Now these things were our examples, to the intent we should not lust after evil things, as they also lusted.
(7)  Neither be ye idolaters, as were some of them; as it is written, The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up to play.
(8)  Neither let us commit fornication, as some of them committed, and fell in one day three and twenty thousand.
(9)  Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.
(10)  Neither murmur ye, as some of them also murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
(11)  Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come.
(12)  Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

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News Item12/24/18 9:13 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
All of what God has done, is doing, and will do on mankind's behalf, should be remembered, celebrated, and given daily, and eternal thankfulness. Nothing is no longer relevant, or deserving of mention, observance, or celebration today simply because it's an event, etc., that's come and gone, so move it along. We wouldn't be here, or we would be eternally doomed, if such important, and profound things in the distant past had never occurred. Christ's once and for all sacrifice should be remembered and celebrated, as should be all that He has done, is doing, and will do for his lowly, and undeserving servants. I'm not talking about any specific day that's been set aside by mankind, but every single day...every single moment, past, present, and future.

Remember that time itself is but an illusion, and temporary, so the past is only the past in our present reality.

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News Item12/24/18 9:00 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
sc wrote:
That song is in past tense (what Christ did (He stood)..not is presently bearing our shame...it's theologically and chronologically correct.
Thanks. What about Psalm 136, almost all the Psalm is a recollection of past events in the present tense. I have more Scripture for questions just to let you know. Thanks
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News Item12/24/18 8:11 AM
sc  Find all comments by sc
That song is in past tense (what Christ did (He stood)..not is presently bearing our shame...it's theologically and chronologically correct.
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News Item12/23/18 10:42 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
A wonderful song, UPS, exalting Him whose name is Wonderful.
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News Item12/22/18 4:57 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
One more question if I may, sc.
in Phillip Bliss hymn, Hallelujah what Savior
The 2nd verse reads

Bearing shame and scoffing rude
In my place condemned He stood
Sealed my pardon with His blood
Hallelujah What a Savior

Would you also say that is inappropriate to sing?

Thanks

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News Item12/22/18 4:40 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Ok thanks for the clarification Sorry for any misunderstanding
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