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FRONT PAGE  |  2/16/2019
TUESDAY, DEC 11, 2018  |  132 comments
The Entertainer puts Christ front and centre at Christmas
High street toy shop The Entertainer is challenging the ongoing secularisation of Christmas with a prominent nativity scene display in all of its shop windows.

The scene is accompanied by a sign wishing passers-by a Happy Christmas, and a reminder of “the reason for the season – the birth of Jesus”.

Executive Chairman Gary Grant said that as the Christian owner of a toy store, he is at the heart of the commercialism of Christmas, but wanted to make sure the true message is still proclaimed. ...


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News Item12/18/18 7:05 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Not only that, JAG, but sometimes it’s only 1.75 cents, and at others it’s 2.25, so in all honesty the name should be My Own Average of Two Cents Worth, but of course that would use up half of the allowable characters. Possum, possum, who’s got the possum?
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News Item12/17/18 9:58 PM
Just a Guy | Mississippi  Find all comments by Just a Guy
Who's calling people names II cents...

Why your just a oppossum eatin, buddying-up-with-hill-people, American.

And you always put your Own 2 cents in too...

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News Item12/17/18 8:40 PM
My Own 2 cents  Find all comments by My Own 2 cents
I'm glad this thread ended well instead of a giant name-calling fest &/or pitu party. ☺
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News Item12/16/18 12:23 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Congratulations everyone!

We got through to the end of this particular discussion without reaching that dreadful "thread closed" point. It is a good sign of spiritual growth, and increased mutual respect.

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News Item12/15/18 10:34 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Thanks sister B, I fully agree. Thanks especially for sharing those great verses!!! God bless you!
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News Item12/15/18 9:37 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
... the angel said ... Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, WHICH SHALL BE FOR ALL. PEOPLE. For unto you is BORN THIS DAY in the city of David, a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord
Still this passage perse does not present an antecendent for a yearly extravagant Xmass as we know today, except in the minds of those who wish to read it that way, of course.

If looking for a verse to rejoice in at the meaning of his coming here are better ones:

"behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end."

Or

"... thou, child, shalt be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shalt go before the face of the Lord to prepare his ways;
To give knowledge of salvation unto his people by the remission of their sins,
Through the tender mercy of our God; whereby the dayspring from on high has visited us,
To give light to them that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the way of peace"

Peace unto you

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News Item12/15/18 5:24 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
I, by the grace of God, try and daily thank each member of the Trinity for Their role in my salvation and sanctification.
When I come to the part where I am thanking my Lord Jesus, the beginning part of my thanks to Him includes thanking Him for leaving the realms of glory where His will was done perfectly, where He was worshiped for Who He is. where He knew no fatigue, loneliness, temptations, hunger, thirst, sorrow, grief, pain, or travail of soul. Where His fellowship with the other members of the Trinity was unbroken. He left the very best to save the very worst.
For me this is great cause for celebration and thanksgiving. Also, sadly, for grief and sorrow that my love for Him is so shallow and my devotion so insipid compared to what it should be.
This for me is part of my means of rejoicing in the Lord and thus I celebrate not only our Lord’s birth but other parts of His life, death, resurrection, and High Priestly ministry on a daily basis.
It makes lovely reading Bro US, and is also mine own experience. The truth always causes me to celebrate and ascribe worth to the Son of God in all that he has done to save sinners like me that I might glorify him and enjoy God for ever.
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News Item12/14/18 10:41 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Sc, thank you for your kind words and your concern for the truth and fellow believers .

2 cents. thanks for your post. The few times we participate in that solemn ordinance of communion, for me is not enough of calling to remembrance of His death on Calvary for our sins.

I, by the grace of God, try and daily thank each member of the Trinity for Their role in my salvation and sanctification.

When I come to the part where I am thanking my Lord Jesus, the beginning part of my thanks to Him includes thanking Him for leaving the realms of glory where His will was done perfectly, where He was worshiped for Who He is. where He knew no fatigue, loneliness, temptations, hunger, thirst, sorrow, grief, pain, or travail of soul. Where His fellowship with the other members of the Trinity was unbroken. He left the very best to save the very worst.

For me this is great cause for celebration and thanksgiving. Also, sadly, for grief and sorrow that my love for Him is so shallow and my devotion so insipid compared to what it should be.

This for me is part of my means of rejoicing in the Lord and thus I celebrate not only our Lord’s birth but other parts of His life, death, resurrection, and High Priestly ministry on a daily basis.

Hope that makes sense, God bless

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News Item12/14/18 8:08 PM
sc  Find all comments by sc
I appreciate your kind exchanges, Unprofitable. I am encouraged that many others will have a discussion on this subject. I pray that we would come out from RC holy days and not be led by sentimental feelings.
Even good motives are vain if worship is not entirely in spirit and truth.
I have appreciated your comments, John UK and Susan, as well. I do grieve over this. It does make it easier to see how Roman Catholics have a difficult time overcoming traditions when more solid Christians are so easily caught up in traditions as well.
Lord help us.
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News Item12/14/18 5:47 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Praise God, MO2C. I pray that the Holy Ghost will move mightily on hearts as you witness for Christ.
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News Item12/14/18 4:58 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
B. McCausland wrote:
More straw men US, or rabbit trails ... ?!
Please, take a break, you are trying too hard.
The birth of Christ, though as part of the whole in the plan of redemption, is a bloodless circumstance per se, of no redemptive value.
When isolated from the whole as any other facet of his coming, say the transfiguration, his baptism, or his ascension, for instance, it stands for little or nothing.
Please make biblical sense
God bless you
Adendum,
The surge of Christmas came out from the early observance of different events in the live of Christ.
As early as the second century, the church had set days in celebration for different events, as his transfiguration, baptism, ascension, etc.. evidence of this still remain to this day by observing the church calendar originated from that time.
Thanks sister B. Look closely in your Bible and you will find the words

(Luke 2:10-11)

and the angel said unto them, Fear not: for, behold, I bring you good tidings of great joy, WHICH SHALL BE FOR ALL. PEOPLE. For unto you is BORN THIS DAY in the city of David, a Saviour , which is Christ the Lord

I am pretty sure that would include you and me.

and God bless you too sister, thanks for your kind wishes.

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News Item12/14/18 4:41 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
Neil, read Galatians 4:4, Philippians 2:7 Hebrews 1:5,6 Paul preached about His birth also
More straw men US, or rabbit trails ... ?!
Please, take a break, you are trying too hard.

The birth of Christ, though as part of the whole in the plan of redemption, is a bloodless circumstance per se, of no redemptive value when isolated.
When isolated from the whole, as any other facet of his coming, say his transfiguration, his baptism, or his ascension, for instance, they stand for little or nothing.
Please, make biblical sense
God bless you

Adendum,
The surge of Christmas came out from the early celebration of different happenings in the life of Christ.
As early as the second century, the church had set days in celebration for divers events, as his transfiguration, baptism, ascension, etc.. evidence of this still remains with us to this day in the church calendar originated from that time.

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News Item12/14/18 4:39 PM
My Own 2 cents  Find all comments by My Own 2 cents
@Unprofitable Servant, I read the passages of scripture you admonished Neil to read: Gal 4:4, Phil 2:7, and Heb 1:5,6; and as I finished reading them, I got no direction to celebrate, nor even to observe Christ's birth. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not downplaying that event down at all, I just see that we're only to observe his death.
(Luke 22:19, 1 Corinthians 11:24)
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News Item12/14/18 4:23 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Many to which to respond

John UK, apparently you missed my point, sorry not such a great communicator.

Susan Abel and those in this thread, my apologies for not seeing the misspelling, thanks Susan for the correction.

Buckeyes one and all, thank you for your kindness, Merry Christmas to y’all

SC, just tried to answer your question. Might want to read Luke 1:46-55 for some of Mary’s thinking, pretty sure giving birth and to Whom she gave that birth was not insignificant to her. In fact the Scripture indicates she pondered these things in her heart.

Neil, read Galatians 4:4, Philippians 2:7 Hebrews 1:5,6 Paul preached about His birth also

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News Item12/14/18 4:06 PM
My Own 2 cents  Find all comments by My Own 2 cents
John UK wrote:
"Ah, you agree with the point I was making?"

I very much agree with you Brother John. I hope you have a blessed day today. ☺

@Dr Tim,
Hey, since you ask people quite often if they had shared the gospel with a lost soul anytime soon, ect, I'll just say this:
While many Christians will be chugging eggnog, opening presents, and licking candycanes, I'll be out street preaching, passing out tracts, and witnessing with my church on Dec. 25.

There, I hope that satisfies ya! 😊👍

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News Item12/14/18 3:19 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Neil wrote:
Christians delude themselves if they think the godless are going to heed "Reason for Season" claims. Paul preached Christ crucified (1 Cor. 1:23), not Christ born. Jesus directed His disciples to teach "all that He commanded them" (Matt. 28:20) and a Christmas holyday isn't part of this.
Modern Christmas is truly a Capitalist Plot, guilt-manipulating folks into debt-financed binge shopping.
Such succinct description of the season.

Definitely the starring focus of the season is the frantic worship of Santa and all it entails, misleading a hedonistict self.

The worship of a religious Xmass lingers mainly in the mind of wishful evangelicals only, often inwardly petting good-feeling wishes for every one as a means of conscience appeasement.

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News Item12/14/18 2:45 PM
sc  Find all comments by sc
Ohh, Unprofitable...it's a mute point that Mary would attach a date to it. Even Mary celebrating it, annually, in the Bible is no where to be found.
Do we love the vain traditions of the RC church or Scripture?
It would make more sense to celebrate it on the Feast of Tabernacles than 12/25.
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News Item12/14/18 2:20 PM
Buckeyes | USA  Find all comments by Buckeyes
(TMC) @US
BTW, the whole Buckeyes clan wishes you a very Merry Christmas!
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News Item12/14/18 2:11 PM
Susan Abel | Southeast Alaska  Contact via emailFind all comments by Susan Abel
Let us be careful of our spelling...

the Word became flesh, not the world...

saying that the world became flesh is like saying flesh became flesh...

must be careful of our words, so our Lord has commanded us...

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News Item12/14/18 2:11 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Ah, UPS, at last I see the true miracle of the incarnation! Christ was born of a virgin without ever being born! At least that’s what sc would have us believe.
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