Surprise! Christian church lets atheist keep pastoring
A United Church minister who had faced an unprecedented ecclesiastical court hearing over her professed atheism is no longer in danger of a defrocking after the two sides reached an agreement in the long-running case.
In an unexpected development this week, Rev. Gretta Vosper and the church settled ahead of what some had dubbed a ‚Äúheresy trial,‚ÄĚ leaving her free to minister to her east-end Toronto congregation.
‚ÄúIt‚Äôs going to be wonderful,‚ÄĚ Vosper said in an interview Friday. ‚ÄúWe‚Äôll be out from underneath that heavy cloud. Now we‚Äôll be able to really fly.‚ÄĚ...
This also makes me think of Paul's address to the people in Athens. He said they were very religious, though he knew that all those 'gods' they worshiped were false. Maybe he was speaking in sarcasm, but we can't tell from the context. So he pointed to the statue for the 'Unknown God' and said he had come in the name of that God, and that was the real God. So in effect, they were OK because they were covering all bases.
The problems you brothers have clearly shown are lost on those looking on. And the world sees an inconsistent message and has further reason to scoff at Jesus and His bride. It's like the UCC church we passed yesterday with it's rainbow flag and sign announcing support for every major progressive platform plank. It may have a sign that says "church," but it's really of Satan.
If that picture of her is taken of her preaching in church then she is disregarding these instructions given in the New Testament. 1. That women are to keep silent in church. 2. That women are to cover their heads. 3. That women are to have long hair. 4. That if she has any questions about what was taught she should ask her husband at home.
This woman should at least have been consistent. Why did she not resign from this ‚Äúchurch‚ÄĚ, which even though ultra liberal and only nominally ‚ÄúChristian‚ÄĚ , had a vague belief in God, that surely was not in line with her atheistic beliefs. Why not join the local atheist or secular humanist association, some even run ‚Äúchurch‚ÄĚ like atheist Sunday assemblies.
It just shows the apostasy we are in. My mind boggles as to what she preaches in her ‚Äúchurch‚ÄĚ. Do they sing Christian hymns? Do they have baptism, communion services? How can she preside at such things? Very strange. We must pray for her deluded deceived parishioners, that they are truly born again, and get out of that place as fast as possible!! May they actually find a real Christian Church, where the Bible is believed, read and taught, Christ Jesus is exalted and the Gospel is truly preached.
I wonder how many people who are warming the pews are in complete agreement with this pastor and only are there because their parents or spouse make them go. At least, I think that in the good ol' US of A, we have gotten away from that 1950s style of church-going, seen only in situation comedies of that era like the Andy Griffith Show, where everyone went just because everyone went, and not going made you stand out. Of course, those were segregation days, though it doesn't seem the Church hasn't changed that much in that respect. I was thinking of the black churches when they were analyzing the results of the recent elections. It seems that blacks, especially in Florida, did not vote 99 percent of the time for the Dems. I thought this might be from the weakening status of the 'historic black church' that just does not hold sway like it used to. I've also seen a nationally televised preacher from Houston with lots of blacks in attendance. I wonder--did they have buses at this church round up all the congregants on the Sunday before Election Day to take them to the polls (to vote for Dems, who probably paid for the buses and the barbeque lunch afterwards).
In South Saint Paul, Minnesota where I previously resided the local Serbian Orthodox Church about 25 years ago had a Communist priest who was an atheist. He did not remain the priest of that Serbian Orthodox Church long.