Pro-lifers Aghast at Pro-Abortion Ad Arguing Live Baby Girl 'Should Be a Choice'
An ad in support of Planned Parenthood featuring a live baby girl with the caption "she deserves to be a choice" is eliciting horror across the internet.
The 40-second ad, which is about three years old but gained attention over the weekend, hails from the Agenda Project Action Fund, a left-wing advocacy organization, after Nigerian pro-life activist Obianuju Ekeocha posted the video on her Twitter feed Friday. She received several notable retweets, including Texas Governor Greg Abbott and actress Patricia Heaton, both of whom were disgusted and incredulous.
With lullaby music playing in the background, footage of a cooing baby girl wearing a white cap is interspersed with the message: "She deserves to be ... loved, She deserves to be ... wanted, She deserves to be ... a choice."...
Unprofiable Sevant wrote: Dave Hunt wrote: ... there is not one example in the entire Bible of political or social "activism" ever being advocated or used by God's people. ... In the New Testament we have the apostles called men who turned the world upside down, the social activism of book burning in Acts 19 plus the coppersmiths large townhall meeting where politics and finances are mentioned as a reason to stop Paul and his preaching But we know Jim, he will still use this quote.
Jews were/are/and will be again God's people, but again they operated within the Jewish community
I don't see Paul was trying to carry out a social agenda, oh and he got ran out of town, because people thought he might have been!
'"If "Christian activism" is God's will, Paul would have been the first to pursue it fearlessly at whatever cost. Yet Romans 13 tells us to obey rulers, and 1 Timothy 2:1-4 to pray for them -- not to attempt to change them by coercion. It is not only foolish but counter-productive to attempt to persuade the unsaved to live like Christians. They can't do it -- and if they could it would only blind them the more to their sin and need of a Savior"' ---Dave Hunt
It may be that the Lord will be pleased to use the foolishness of our preaching to Jim or others onlooking as an instrument to lead them to Christ. It may be that the Holy Spirit is even now working in his heart. These things we do not know. How I wish I could have heard you all back in my days before Christ, for you are proclaiming the words of life.
Yet you are correct, John. Dead people don't make decisions, but just rot and stink. Lazarus was a type waiting for Jesus to call him from the grave. Please Lord, call Jim!
NeedHim wrote: JohnUK; As I know that salvation is of the Lord alone in the great & powerful truths, in how God removes one spiritual heart of stone away. But their is no wrong with pleading with those who are lost, to repent, that God would do a good work in calling & leading the fallen to Him. As He Alone is the only one, working through the eternal Godhead, who can set the captive free & indeed amen. No body knows who the elect are outside of the eternal Godhead. & yes God is justified in leaving a sinner in their own inquity, as no one is owed or deserving of Him. What a marvelous & amazing savior He would save many & nâ€™t any amen.
Amen bro. And whatever he tells you to do, do it with all your heart.
JohnUK; As I know that salvation is of the Lord alone in the great & powerful truths, in how God removes one spiritual heart of stone away.
But their is no wrong with pleading with those who are lost, to repent, that God would do a good work in calling & leading the fallen to Him. As He Alone is the only one, working through the eternal Godhead, who can set the captive free & indeed amen.
No body knows who the elect are outside of the eternal Godhead. & yes God is justified in leaving a sinner in their own inquity, as no one is owed or deserving of Him.
What a marvelous & amazing savior He would save many & nâ€™t any amen.
NeedHim wrote: Repent Jim; You must be reconciled to Christ, for you are still spiritually dead in the First Adam!!!
Oh NeedHim, you are telling Jim that he is spiritually dead, and that he must do something about it. Nay, if God chooses to leave him in that state, let it be. Agree with God. It has been dunged about for many a year, and you remember what Jesus said. Three years was it?
Jas 1:13-16 Let no one say when he is tempted, â€śI am tempted by Godâ€ť; for God canâ€™t be tempted by evil, nor does He Himself tempt anyone. But each one is tempted when he is drawn away by his own desires & enticed. Then, when desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; & sin, when it is full-grown, brings forth death.
Repent Jim; You must be reconciled to Christ, for you are still spiritually dead in the First Adam!!!
1 PT 4:2-5 that he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh for the lusts of men, but for the will of God. For we have spent enough of our past lifetime in doing the will of the Gentilesâ€”when we walked in lewdness, lusts, drunkenness, revelries, drinking parties, &!abominable idolatries. In regard to these, they think it strange that you donâ€™t run with them in the same flood of dissipation, speaking evil of you. They will give an account to Him who is ready to judge the living and the dead.
Also it should be noted that it is not Randall Terry that was confused but David Hunt as his quote was about Godâ€™s people not just Christians and that would include the children of Israel
One also must note that at the time of Christ and the Apostles there was no such government like we live in today. Basically it comparing Apples and Oranges We cannot say what they would have done in our system of government We have the example of Paul using rights granted him by the government as a pattern for us to follow and thus advocate for Christian activism as found in the first amendment
Dave Hunt wrote: ... there is not one example in the entire Bible of political or social "activism" ever being advocated or used by God's people.
Apparently David Hunt never read the book of Esther. Must have missed Jehu activism in gathering together and destroying of baal worshipers. He didn't notice the changes advocated by Moses and the children of Israel to the government of Egypt or the prior action of th Hebrew midwives. Both Hezekiah and Josiah promoted great social changes. Also, we have Elijah's political and social activism with children of israel and the 450 prophets of Baal mentioned by Dr Tim. One wonders why Athelia would cry out treason, treason if Jehoiada's actions were not political.
In the New Testament we have the apostles called men who turned the world upside down, the social activism of book burning in Acts 19 plus the coppersmiths large townhall meeting where politics and finances are mentioned as a reason to stop Paul and his preaching
Forget cutting and pasting for a minute, Jim, and look at the picture of the baby above. If you can support anyone who advocates murdering such a precious, innocent person, then please abandon all pretense of being a Christian. Youâ€™re as fake as Hillaryâ€™s laugh.
Be careful, Jim, attempting to separate the church from believing Israel, into which we are ingrafted.
The Lord gave a whole list of ways in which we should live, which include not living in particular ways. For that nation of Israel, that went as civil law as well. Read the Pentatuch and you'll take away a different view of what was done in the OT.
As far as our actions under the most recent Covenant, mediated by Christ Jesus, we are not to support those things that are unseemly. While it includes preaching the Gospel, it also means being salt and preserving as much of this world as we can. There are many who would say that your salt, Jim, has lost its flavor and is only fit for sidewalk.
Dave Hunt wrote: I appreciate Randall Terryâ€™s forthrightness and his passion to oppose abortion. The Bible does not forbid political or social activism. It does not, however, support it. Neither Jesus, the Apostles nor the early church attempted in that way to oppose the social evils of their day. Instead, they â€śturned the world upside downâ€ť (Acts 17:6) with the gospel.
In attempting to justify his position from Scripture, one of Terryâ€™s major errors is in confusing Israel and the church. Gideon, Jeremiah, David, Solomon, Asa, Josiah, Hezekiah, Jehoshaphat, et al. were not Christians as he claims. Nor were their actions in smashing idols, in ridding Israel of homosexuals and stopping the practice of offering children to Molech-or the setting up of righteous judges by Moses-either political or social â€śactivism.â€ť These were the deeds of Israelâ€™s leaders, ruling Godâ€™s â€śchosen people,â€ť of whom He said,
â€śAnd ye shall be holy unto me: for I the LORD am holy, and have severed you from other people, that ye should be mineâ€ť. (Lv 20:26) Israel is unique....
Daniel Burke wrote: 4. 'Arm's length' evangelicals
They don't often appear on the radar of mainstream media -- in part because they talk more about Christ than caucuses -- but "arm's length" evangelicals dominate some the most dynamic movements within conservative Christianity. They consider it foolhardy for candidates to use their faith as a footstool to higher office and are reluctant to fuse the sacred sphere of religion with profane politics. Arm's length pastors include Tim Keller of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in New York, who counsels his congregation to get involved in politics but to be "very critical" of both parties. As he put it: "Don't sell your soul." John Piper, a former megachurch pastor in Minnesota and one of the most influential evangelical voices, said churches and their ministers should remain apart from political activism. Their job, rather, is to "feed the saints" who perform charity. Arm's length evangelicals are likely to look askance at a hard sell from presidential candidates like Ted Cruz, ..
excerpt from, "7 types of evangelicals -- and how they'll affect the presidential race"
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John MacArthur could have been put in this group. https://tinyurl.com/habzqpz (The Gospel and Po
Excellent comments, Buckeyes. I wouldnâ€™t hold my breath waiting for Jim to come around to your scriptural and commonsense way of thinking, though. Apparently his skull goes all the way to the middle.
Jim; Many will say upon that great day of judgement, they will say, Lord, Lord, & He will say to them, depart from me. I never knew you, be nâ€™t deceived Jim, your heart reflects deception, Nâ€™t Good; Pro 14:12!
Exd 23:2 You shallnâ€™t follow a crowd to do evil; nor shall you testify in a dispute so as to turn aside after many to pervert justice.
These six things the Lord hates, Yes, seven are an abomination to Him: A proud look, A lying tongue, Hands that shed innocent blood, A heart that devises wicked plans, Feet that are swift in running to evil, Pro 6:16-18
Your worldview view exposes you, that you are in dier need of Christ mercies to be bestowed onto your life, while you are able to repent amen.
I actually believe the entirety of Godâ€™s Word should be bookmarked. Including:
â€śIf thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain; If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?â€ť ~ Proverbs 12:11-12
Letâ€™s be honest- if you were truly consistent in your belief that all â€ślegislating of moralityâ€ť is wrong, you would be an Anarchist. After all, how dare the Government pass laws modeled on such moral ideas as â€śThou shalt not killâ€ť, and â€śThou shalt not stealâ€ť! And how can you stand to get gas from a pump with a seal declaring it to be in compliance with the command â€śBut thou shalt have a perfect and just weight, a perfect and just measure shalt thou have:...â€ť! We still have Murderers, Thieves, and Cheaters - so lets just legalize it all!
The truth is that all Law is a Moral declaration that â€śthisâ€ť is right and â€śthatâ€ť is wrong.
â€śA-moralâ€ť law is just as mythical as â€śobjectiveâ€ť journalism.
1..Jim Hunt is wrong. Elijah engaged in political and social activism when he put 950 false prophets to the sword. 2. If 99.99 percent of Americans support abortion, it is still murder and still a wicked abomination, and all who support it are an abomination as well, including you, Jim Lincoln. 3. Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Dave Hunt wrote: ... there is not one example in the entire Bible of political or social "activism" ever being advocated or used by God's people. That fact must weigh heavily upon any consideration of this important topic. There are numerous cases of civil disobedience in Scripture, but it was never engaged in for the purpose of forcing an ungodly society to obey Biblical principles....
excerpt from, ' "Christian" Activism? '
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Pew Research wrote: Views on abortion, 1995-2018
As of 2018, public support for legal abortion remains as high as it has been in two decades of polling. Currently, 58% say abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 37% say it should be illegal in all or most cases.
--- https://tinyurl.com/z5o9y4q (Public Opinion on Abortion Views on abortion, 1995-2018)
Just like the primitive religious folk help seal the fate of Prohibition and turn people against it, many of the anti-abortionists are doing the same for the anti-abortion cause. I suppose one of these days they will pass a constitutional amendment to declare abortion a woman's right. More people are supporting abortion all the time.
A good quote for you Jim; Spurgeon; If the professed convert distinctly & deliberately declares that he knows the Lord's will but doesnâ€™t mean to attend to it, you arenâ€™t to pamper his presumption, but it is your duty to assure him that he isnâ€™t saved. Do not suppose that the Gospel is magnified or God glorified by going to the worldlings & telling them that they may be saved at this moment by simply accepting Christ as their Savior, while they are wedded to their idols, & their hearts are still in love with sin. If I do so I tell them a lie, pervert the Gospel, insult Christ, & turn the grace of God into lasciviousness."
LK 6:46 Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord,' & donâ€™t do what I tell you?â€ť
The true gospel nâ€™t only proclaims the goodness & mercy of God, but the severity of his wrath toward apostates. The meat of the gospel is to â€śrepentâ€ť (Mat 3:2), to â€śbear the fruits worthy of repentanceâ€ť (Mat 3:8), thereby fleeing â€śfrom the wrath to comeâ€ť. (Mat 3:7). Sanctification isnâ€™t an option. Without repentance, there has been no conversion. Therefore, "Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity." (2 Tim 2:19). Jesus Christ is both your savior a & your Lord, or He is neither!!
So how has grace humbled you Jim, by changing you, that reflects in that Christ possesses you? As Biblical Christianity is about being a doer & a hearer too! That comes with a cost to ones life, their lifestyle & how their life is being molded & shaped by the Word of God, as one Biblical worldview, derives from Christ & His unchanging Holy Word!
Spurgeon; If the man doesnâ€™t live differently from what he did before, both at home & abroad, his repentance needs to be repented of, & his conversion is a fiction.
For Grace will change one, to be under the affects of grace, by possessing Christ. The follower & lover of Christ Knows that grace isnâ€™t separated from pursuing personal Holiness into ones own life, in order to be like Christ, teaches; 1 PT 1:16! Personal holiness isnâ€™t just a mere option either for one either, apart from Christ Alone, one is unrighteousness & unable to please Him ever in a fallen unconverted condition amen; ISA 35:8!