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FRONT PAGE  |  11/17/2018
Choice News FRIDAY, NOV 9, 2018  |  17 comments
Trump eliminates Obama's abortion-pill coverage mandate

Barack Obama’s efforts to embed abortion funding in the health-care system took a significant blow this week when the Trump administration finalized rule changes that roll back Obama’s contraceptive coverage mandate and prevent tax subsidies from going to abortionists.

The plan announced by the Department of Health and Human Services addresses not only hidden tax funding for abortion but also Obama’s requirement that health insurance plans include abortion.

The requirement was opposed by the Roman Catholic charity Little Sisters of the Poor, which eventually on its case in U.S. Supreme Court. ...


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News Item11/10/18 2:05 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Meaningless, since according to the Guttmacher Institute most women pay for their own abortions and contraceptives.

I will quote a conservative, who I believe this particular article perhaps even got him nearly fired. That would be a pity since he is a thinker amongst Southern Baptists

Russell Moore wrote:
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The word “evangelical” has become almost meaningless this year, [2016] and in many ways the word itself is at the moment subverting the gospel of Jesus Christ.

Part of the problem is that more secular people have for a long time misunderstood the meaning of “evangelical,” seeing us almost exclusively in terms of election-year voting blocs or our most buffoonish television personalities. That’s especially true when media don’t distinguish in election exit polls between churchgoers and those who merely self-identify as “born again” or “evangelical.”...

For years, secular progressives have said that evangelical social action in America is not about religious conviction but all about power. They have implied that the goal of the Religious Right is to cynically use the “moral” to get to the “majority,” not the other way around....

--"Russell Moore: Why this election makes me hate the word ‘evangelical’"
https://tinyurl.com/yc77mrlr 
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News Item11/10/18 9:25 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
UPS, I've pushed such things as Universal Health Care, one of the non racist solutions to abortion, besides other problems
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Thanks for taking the time to respond

Interesting, you refuse to answer the question as to whether it is okay to use laws to push immortality but not morality? Then you open with a statement that has been proven more than once to be false (see Christopher's response as it is another example of it) and finish with a quote that the nicest things that one can say about it is that it is filled with ignorance. It is written by a person that appears to have supported black liberation theology.

Not sure why spend so much time with those you consider to be hopeless racists here at SA. Maybe it is time to change scenes and find a blog that more fits your "thinking".

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News Item11/10/18 8:41 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
The reasons most frequently cited were that having a child would interfere with a woman's education, work or ability to care for dependents (74%); that she could not afford a baby now (73%); and that she did not want to be a single mother or was having relationship problems (48%). Nearly four in 10 women said they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third were not ready to have a child. Fewer than 1% said their parents' or partners' desire for them to have an abortion was the most important reason. Younger women often reported that they were unprepared for the transition to motherhood, while older women regularly cited their responsibility to dependents.

The above is a consensus from the Guttmacher institute. The percentages stuck out to me, far exceeding 100%, and the reason cited is because of the range of questions that each of the women were allowed to answer.

Anyway, mass-infantcide, for the most part, comes right on down to promiscuity. Even if there was universal healthcare, and if it had always been available, would the numbers really reflect any notable difference? Millions of babys murdered because of a lack of free healthcare, so all of these murderous mothers-to-be only realized that this healthcare didn't exist until after they got pregnant?

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News Item11/10/18 8:20 AM
Plain Old Tim | Possum Hollow, USA  Find all comments by Plain Old Tim
Sorry, UPS. I’m sure you knew Jiminy ‘s needle would get stuck again before long.
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News Item11/10/18 7:37 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
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News Item11/9/18 7:40 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Thanks for your response with no quotes or links, Jim.

1. The U.S. is not a democracy it is a representative republic We elect government officials who make laws that govern us. It is never about majority rule.

2. If we don’t like the laws they are passing we are given in the first amendment the rights to petition, the right of peaceable assembly, the right of free speech, the right of personal religious expression and the right of the press. None of those rights suggest being passivity or accepting the status quo. They suggest action. Obviously, we have the right to vote out and replace our representatives with people who share our views.

3. The Judeo-Christian view of morality greatly affected the writers of both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Thus we see many laws written into or spoken of that reflect what is taught in the Bible.

Are you saying it is okay to force immoral views (like the killing of innocent babies, the redistribution of wealth aka legal plunder, etc) through legislating by the judiciary, executive fiat and passage of laws but if isn’t right to pass laws or issue executive fiats that promote godly morality?

Moral laws don’t make moral people they just limit lawlessness and serve to punish offenders.

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News Item11/9/18 7:09 PM
Bourgoin | SC  Find all comments by Bourgoin
So if the majority says it's ok to break in someone house and steal and kill because they are more financially secure ,does that actually change the morality of the incident. No it does not. Truth and morals are absolutes . They don't change just because someone says so.
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News Item11/9/18 5:22 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
I don’t want any links in your response please. Tell me Jim , how is mandating contraceptives and forcing tax payer dollars to subsidize abortion NOT forcing bad “morals” on people who don’t support it? It is forcing by executive orders a pro-abortion “moral “ view on everybody regardless of their beliefs. Are you saying it is okay to use laws to push immortality but not morality?
Honestly, if you cannot answer without links or quotes from someone else just skip the question
You might get a link anyway, after my response, UPS.

The USA is a democracy, that means morality is determined the majority, now that morality may not be Biblical, if you don't like then you convert those people to your way of thinking, and not be force like a Muhammadan either If you don't like a particular morality, one should consider other countries where a church determines the morality such as those in central America or the Middle East, both areas not being very moral. Just how often have I pointed out that Dominionism { https://tinyurl.com/jzttasx } isn't Christian?! Puritans, one of the more famous groups who were going to establish "A city on the Hill," suffered a complete moral collapse and oblivion

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News Item11/9/18 3:54 PM
Carl in Raleigh | North Carolina  Contact via emailFind all comments by Carl in Raleigh
No more accessory to mass murder!!! Praise the LORD.
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News Item11/9/18 3:34 PM
Youth in Asia | Asia  Find all comments by Youth in Asia
I sometimes read old (19 century) sermons and missionary reports, and the needs are surprisingly the same as today. My favorite author is Isobel Kuhn, Hudson Taylor and George Muller, both their biographies helped me understand that humans being pigs, barbarians, corrupt is nothing new, each one struggled with apathy in their churches, just like many of us who struggle today..

"that you may be blameless and innocent, children of God without blemish in the midst of a crooked and twisted generation, among whom you shine as lights in the world, "(Philippians 2:15 ESV)

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News Item11/9/18 1:26 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
I don’t want any links in your response please. Tell me Jim , how is mandating contraceptives and forcing tax payer dollars to subsidize abortion NOT forcing bad “morals” on people who don’t support it? It is forcing by executive orders a pro-abortion “moral “ view on everybody regardless of their beliefs. Are you saying it is okay to use laws to push immortality but not morality?

Honestly, if you cannot answer without links or quotes from someone else just skip the question

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News Item11/9/18 11:28 AM
Plain Old Tim | Possum Hollow, USA  Find all comments by Plain Old Tim
Youth in Asia wrote:
So what do the recent voting results mean for America? I have yet to hear an opinion.
YIA, you must understand that in recent years, the United States Congress has taken on a new and mysterious role. The only thing they get done is to keep anything from getting done. All power now rests in the President and the Supreme Court. I predict that the next Democratic President will abolish the Supreme Court and declare himself or herself dictator.
Moderator, would you please delete Jim’s latest racist rant below?
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News Item11/9/18 11:10 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
WND is again a year behind the times, it seems like this was carried out by Jeff Sessions and the Dept. of Health, back then See:
https://tinyurl.com/ybcq46tn (Trump Administration Rolls Back Birth Control Mandate)

I would also point out to many,

Romans 8:7 For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to God's law; indeed, it cannot. 8 Those who are in the flesh cannot please God.---ESV

Being White Muslims is not God's calling! Trying to use laws to moralize a country.

https://tinyurl.com/yapvm8uy (The Deadly Dangers of Moralism)

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News Item11/9/18 10:30 AM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
Neil wrote:
Here's mine: America is a spent force, a sinking ship. It's not just the politicians, it's not merely one segment of society. Life experience has led me to conclude that Americans, in the main, are unethical, dissolute pigs. And I have to live among them.
Neil, that has to be the best post I have ever read concerning the moral condition of our country and I agree fully.
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News Item11/9/18 10:05 AM
Neil | Tucson  Find all comments by Neil
Youth in Asia wrote:
So what do the recent voting results mean for America? I have yet to hear an opinion.
Here's mine: America is a spent force, a sinking ship. It's not just the politicians, it's not merely one segment of society. Life experience has led me to conclude that Americans, in the main, are unethical, dissolute pigs. And I have to live among them.
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News Item11/9/18 9:16 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Trump can hire and fire whomever he chooses, and it was his Attorney General, Jeff Sessions, because he wasn't fit for the job. Great for the State of Alabama, but he cited a constitutional clause, or whatever, out of its proper context in order to recuse himself from the Russia probe, immediately following his appointment. He didn't do anything illegal. The Liberals are just paranoid about the fake Muhller investigation, which I think Trump could have stopped at any time. Maybe not, but that's my understanding. The moment they take the house back, instead of talking about what they are gonna do for America, like they were all about during the mid-terms, they immediately begin talking about subpoenas, investigations, and impeaching Kavannaugh for purgery, etc. A bunch of frauds, who hardly work for the people. They always forget that they are mere public servants after any elections.
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News Item11/9/18 8:11 AM
Youth in Asia | Asia  Find all comments by Youth in Asia
So what do the recent voting results mean for America? I have yet to hear an opinion.

Also people are striking in Washington, because trump illegaly fired some investigator and replaced with his own. It looks serious.

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