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Choice News FRIDAY, AUG 10, 2018  |  17 comments
South Carolina is abandoning its churches
South Carolina churches are shedding thousands of members a year, even as the state’s population grows by tens of thousands.

In the place we call the Bible Belt, where generations have hung their hats on their church-going nature and faithful traditions, an increasing trend of shrinking church attendance — and increasing church closings — signals a fundamental culture shift in South Carolina.

At least 97 Protestant churches across South Carolina have closed since 2011, according to data from the Lutheran, Presbyterian, United Methodist and Southern Baptist denominations. An untold number of other closings, certainly, are not captured by these statistics.

Many churches are dying slow deaths, stuck in stagnation if not decline. And if they don’t do something, anything, in their near future, they’ll share the fate of Cedar Creek United Methodist, a 274-year-old Richland County congregation that ...


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News Item8/15/18 3:08 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
Do you think his power is equal to that of God's? Is God at work in South Carolina?
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News Item8/14/18 10:12 PM
Dr. Tim | Possum Hollow, USA  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Satan is at work in Minnesota.
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News Item8/14/18 1:58 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
Only in South Carolina, John Y?
I would think he was involved most in things happening in New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, Baltimore, and Washington DC.
I thought people who live in SC are living in the Bible Belt of the US.
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News Item8/14/18 11:56 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Satan is at work in South Carolina.
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News Item8/12/18 4:25 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
Yes, V, you are taking it in a direction I had not thought of. Maybe a church in Colorado will try your technique.
Of course, CCM-Christian Contemporary Music-was founded to feed the tastes of modern people who cannot read the music in the hymnals, nor sing, and cannot stand choirs and pipe organs.
At the end of the South Carolina newspaper article is a short video of a church that meets on a pier (not during a hurricane, of course!).
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News Item8/12/18 3:06 PM
VanPastorMan | Pennsylvania  Contact via emailFind all comments by VanPastorMan
Don Tian wrote:
This article, from the South Carolina newspaper, has a lot of meat to it.
I recommend everyone take the time to check it out, especially the pictures.
Of course, you can argue the figures are not accurate, when in the fine print, they admit that not all Southern Baptist cthe hurches report their numbers to the central office.
As for United Methodists, I can understand them failing, in part due to their doctrinal deviation on the sodomite issue.
The newspaper article has a bit about a church meeting in a tavern, a bar that is.
It reminds me of the other story here at S.A. about the California church making and serving beer. What will they think of next? Maybe meet in the parking lot of a shopping center?
Don, what they will think of next is to grow their own pot and dispense it. That will get folks in the door. Better have good snacks after the service though because pot brings on the munchies.
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News Item8/12/18 12:12 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
there is already a replacement demographic.

generation x was aborted

generation z autisticized

open borders

jobs sent away

that happened a generation ago

elderly white folks in churches cannot expect what doesn't exist to replace them

scriptures say the inheritance is in the children

replacement demographics will want to do things differently

I'm guessing a lot more catholic churches, services in spanish (they aren't told they are evil for having a cultur), and mosques.

even the genetic children have largely moved on from their own culture, moving into new ones, adapting to the new mores of the day.

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News Item8/12/18 11:21 AM
Yolanda | AZ  Find all comments by Yolanda
And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God. For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him ( 2 Cor. 5:18-21).
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen (MT 28:19, 20).

For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek (ROM 1:16).

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News Item8/11/18 5:02 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches

https://www.crechurches.org/

the sheep meander from flock to flock, disturbed by what they see, they speak to the pastor and say, why do you say there is no tribulation when I see such tribulation? why does my child have autism and why do you treat it like I'm not raising my kid right? why do you let all the single women dress inappropriately? why is it all of your praise team members are living immoral lives?

and the pastors ask them to leave.

there's a whole flock of them out there.

meandering from one to the next.

in a fractionalized time, when there needs are great....

....come on in and give your tithe to the convention to do God's work (but sir, are not members of ERLC supporting the Revoice Conference and didn't the head guy of that say something about "homosexual" Christians and "pedophile" Christians?

"no, son, your job in our churches is to respect auTHORiTY and we are in charge, you can always go elsewhere. but son, after you leave, you are gonna miss it and come right on back."

or there's the "you are disturbing the work of the Holy Spirit. the Holy Spirit wants the music turned up real loud like that. if the old people (who faithfully served this church from the beginning) can't hack it, they

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News Item8/11/18 12:27 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
This article, from the South Carolina newspaper, has a lot of meat to it.
I recommend everyone take the time to check it out, especially the pictures.
Of course, you can argue the figures are not accurate, when in the fine print, they admit that not all Southern Baptist cthe hurches report their numbers to the central office.
As for United Methodists, I can understand them failing, in part due to their doctrinal deviation on the sodomite issue.
The newspaper article has a bit about a church meeting in a tavern, a bar that is.
It reminds me of the other story here at S.A. about the California church making and serving beer. What will they think of next? Maybe meet in the parking lot of a shopping center?
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News Item8/10/18 10:17 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Just to clarify my questions in the previous post were direct at brother Don Tian
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News Item8/10/18 10:15 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Why exactly is it the churches fault people aren’t coming? You might read Ii Timothy 4:3. Do we not find that the multitudes left our Lord in John 6?

Do you think the online sermons are here without cost? Do not the staff at SA have a building with similar expenses as you mentioned in your post?

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News Item8/10/18 4:33 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
2 Timothy 4:2-5
preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching. For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths. As for you, always be sober-minded, endure suffering, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry. ---ESV

https://tinyurl.com/c9454aj (Plague on both their houses: The real story of growth and decline in liberal and conservative churches)

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News Item8/10/18 12:00 PM
Don Tian | Kidney Hills  Find all comments by Don Tian
Compare this story with the one about the California church making and serving beer. Obviously, the old-fashioned religion is not appealing, and even in South Carolina, Baptist churches--who you would guess do preach the Bible--are closing due to members leaving. It certainly looks like the tradition of hymn-singing, pipe organ playing, stained glass windows, pews all facing to the altar in the front, choirs, Sunday school campaigns, buses picking up people, Wednesday night dinner, 11am Sunday traditional service, is not cutting it anymore. Looks like churches, even in the Bible Belt, better wake up and smell the coffee.
I guess Rick Warren's Purpose Driven Church did not work out.
Or people have followed Malachi's words to test me in this (tithing)and found it lacking. Why should they take ten percent of their gross income and send it to the place on the corner, where it will be used to pay for heating, air conditioning that room with the pews, pipe organ, and salaries. Can they get lots of sermons online. They can meet with their neighbors in their homes to study the Bible. They can help out Habitat for Humanity or at the hospital whenever they get that urge to volunteer to help the community.
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News Item8/10/18 7:25 AM
Dr. Tim | Possum Hollow, USA  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
The article says that if these twice-dead churches "don't do something, anything, in their near future," they're goners. They've been doing "anything" for years, and that is why the Lord has removed their candlestick. The only thing they haven't been doing is obeying scripture. Churches that do that don't die. They thrive. Good riddance to the apostates.
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News Item8/10/18 4:39 AM
G. Bird | Devon, England  Find all comments by G. Bird
I live in North Devon in England and while it’s true there are many churches here, there are few Bible-believing ones. The churches tend to be worldly and closer to social clubs than actual houses of worship. Suffice it to say that women pastors abound.
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News Item8/10/18 3:14 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
I have been in some congregations where the death of the church was inevitable, barring action and prayer. I sought to help them, and show them the way forward, but it was like the seed fell on hard ground, and all the folks there wanted was to carry on until the last man fell.

Churches and chapels in Wales are closing all the time, and it does not surprise me one little bit. They are nothing like a NT church; that is, the "Christians" are nothing like NT Christians.

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