Chris G P wrote: ..challenging evangelistic preaching..
Romans 10:8-13 KJV (8)¬† But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; (9)¬† That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. (10)¬† For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. (11)¬† For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. (12)¬† For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. (13)¬† For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
1). It may well be better if such a vast church actually split up into much smaller more local and independent churches all with their own pastors, elders, deacons and members.
2). To be truly scriptural all women should be removed from any kind of leadership as pastors, elders or deacons, though women can be used in a variety of other ways, and are useful for safeguarding purposes for ministry to little children and women, though should be responsible to the male eldership.
3). The eldership should be truly plural, and pastors, who, of course are also elders should be fully responsible and accountable to the other elders.
4). All churches should return to a good solid diet of solid and doctrinal consecutive expository preaching of the Word of God, combined with challenging evangelistic preaching, and reverent worship, without pandering to the world.
Dee wrote: These elders disagreed with some of the changes made by Driscoll. So he fired them. That's right. He fired the elders who were supposed to provide checks and balances. These elders had no authority whatsoever within this system. Also, all the other pastors and elders kept their mouths shut.
--[URL=https://tinyurl.com/jzav5q8]]]https://tinyurl.com/jzav5q8 (The firing of elders by Mark Driscoll)--There Is Little Difference in the Governance of Pastor Driven Churches[/URL]
As much as I dislike using a woman as an authority, she quoted from enough men and enough men commented on her article that I decided to put it out anyway.