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FRONT PAGE  |  9/20/2019
SATURDAY, MAY 5, 2018  |  17 comments
Mormon support for gay marriage gradually grows

Mormon Alex Landers supports the legalization of gay marriage despite her religion's opposition for a simple reason: She has LGBTQ friends who she loves and respects, including her best friend who is a bisexual man.

"I can't look at him and his boyfriend and tell them that they can't be happy and they can't love each other," said Landers, 20, of Draper, Utah. "Heavenly Father loves us for who we are. He wants us to be happy, as long as we're treating people well and we're being who we truly are and we're not hurting anyone." ...


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News Item5/10/18 11:28 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Adriel wrote:
"Pope Francis has called for transsexuals and homosexuals to be accepted and embraced by the Catholic Church, but said he was staunchly opposed to schools promoting or endorsing such ‚Äútendencies‚ÄĚ.
Who cares what Francis has to state about anything? The Catholic Bishops and priests are supposed to uphold Catholic teaching which prohibits homosexual marriage.
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News Item5/8/18 11:28 AM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
John Yurich USA wrote:
One thing is for sure and that is the Catholic Church will never sanction fruitcake marriage.
"Pope Francis has called for transsexuals and homosexuals to be accepted and embraced by the Catholic Church, but said he was staunchly opposed to schools promoting or endorsing such ‚Äútendencies‚ÄĚ.

He said he had ministered to such people when he was a priest, then as a bishop and now as Pope.

The Vatican maintains that homosexual acts are sinful, but homosexual orientation is not.

"It is one thing to have homosexual tendencies or a sex change," the Latin American pontiff said. "But it is another thing to teach it in schools."

He invited the couple to the Vatican, where they told him how upset they had been when a local priest had told them they would ‚Äúgo to hell‚ÄĚ.

"Life is life, and things should be taken as they come," the Pope said. "Sin is sin, but tendencies or hormonal imbalances ... can cause many problems and we have to be careful.

"But each case must be welcomed, accompanied, studied, discerned and integrated. When a person (who is gay) arrives before Jesus, Jesus certainly will not say, 'Go away because you are homosexual,'" Francis said."
(Telegraph.com 2016)

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News Item5/8/18 11:20 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Not surprising about the Mormon Cult now sanctioning fruitcake marriage. One thing is for sure and that is the Catholic Church will never sanction fruitcake marriage.
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News Item5/6/18 4:54 PM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
penned wrote:
...any missionary who enters a field studies the religion of those they seek to convert, through the example of Paul..
Great point Penny. Maybe this is why I read even the works of Catholic or Protestant mystics, so that I am better equipped when witnessing to such.
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News Item5/6/18 11:07 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
The Quiet Christian wrote:
That's the problem, Jim. Even just rational thought often leads away from some of these "enterprises," as you termed them.
you all willfully, mindfully refuse to even acknowledge the personal religion of the one you try to convert....

how can one be successful when it is mixed with fear?????

imagine going into the bowels of Romanian city life during the Russian communist occupation, meeting young people with their minds filled with atheist statism.... to ignore the elephant called communism in the room....

....or to go to a small town in Mexico basked in spiritual darkness and violence and not understand the doctrines of catholocism and the realities of gang drug trade....

...any missionary who enters a field studies the religion of those they seek to convert, through the example of Paul..

...yet here in the west, when confronted with kabbalism or forms of judaism, its like these religions don't exist in our minds...

...would be like living in Saudi Arabia and avoiding the subject of Islam with the unsaved.

...such is the spiritual condition of the evangelical.

for inspiration, I suggest to readers to go to youtube and see Bernie Sanders berate the nominee for believing the gospel... it was to him

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News Item5/5/18 3:24 PM
Yolanda | AZ  Find all comments by Yolanda
I honestly couldn't finish reading this doctrine of demons that support what God clearly says in Psalm 5 he hates.

Make no mistake. God does not change. His word is forever settled in heaven. He "hates all workers of iniquity" as well as iniquity itself.

Because ignorant believers don't believe ALL of God's words, even though his actions vindicates his word, they discuss the forbidden.

As for Mormons, why are we even surprised at what they do. They received their dogma from a demon. And they are all morons; descendants of Moroni.

Jim Lincoln and commenters to his posted articles, ought to be ashamed. Is this being done as survey? Or, for money?

But as the scripture says, the wicked can't even blush as sin. So post on, Jim Lincoln, for judgment is at hand.

Job knew how to withdraw his eyes from looking on things that might influence his emotions, but Jim Lincoln habitually sticks our noses into matters he thinks God winks at.

We know these things go on, but to come to this board and have it in our faces is discouraging.

Who is this Jim Lincoln and who belongs to his inner circle? They seem to be feeding each other the bread of leaven. If one reads this stuff enough, then they are less sensitive to sin.

Be offended and depart from evil!

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News Item5/5/18 3:19 PM
Been Watching | North America  Find all comments by Been Watching
Adriel wrote:
I suppose the Mormon god will agree to whatever his followers will believe.
A bit like the Liberals god.
However the truth has other ideas.
Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."
Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."
Pity these groups cannot read the Bible.
They read ***A*** bible for sure. But it's corrupt and edited to agree with their whims. That's where the danger lies.
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News Item5/5/18 3:15 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
I suppose the Mormon god will agree to whatever his followers will believe.
A bit like the Liberals god.

However the truth has other ideas.

Lev 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Rom 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."

Pity these groups cannot read the Bible.

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News Item5/5/18 2:23 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
It is often said in pulpits and in the media that love is simply love. So if someone is in a homosexual relationship and they claim to have love for one another, then that relationship is okay. If these groups adopt a child and love that child, then that is also okay. If a lesbian woman undergoes In Vitro Fertilization and gets pregnant and has a child, she will also undoubtedly have a love for that child. In fact, let me just say that using the word love will generally solve any cultural problems we can encounter. However, here is a thought that most don’t consider. Unless our love is used to demonstrate the love of Christ, then our love is baseless and only serves satan. Yes, God, our Savior and the Holy Spirit are completely and totally the spirit of love and without them love cannot exist, but surely anyone can see that we can have a false love and deceive ourselves and those we are loving, albeit in a worldly way. If something is done and it is not done by our Lord and Savior working through us, then it is meaningless

Phil 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of [his] good pleasure.

John 15:5 I am the vine, ye [are] the branches:He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing.

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News Item5/5/18 1:23 PM
Wayfarer Pilgrim | Lubbock,tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer Pilgrim
Mormonism teaches that to be converted by the Holy Spirit is on this premise; “ ask the Holy Spirit if what the prophet is true, then go ahead. That is why Mormonism will approve of gay marriage, although how they can understand the issue relating to eternal marriage and eternal children is something they’ve got to counter. Nothing two sodmites do creates nothing.
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News Item5/5/18 12:32 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
That's the problem, Jim. Even just rational thought often leads away from some of these "enterprises," as you termed them. As all truth and wisdom proceed from God Himself, it would only make sense that such would be so.

However, not everything is so easily discernable and the Lord often hides Himself by hardening hearts against Him lest He be perceived and those people turn from their sins to Him. It is not by the wisdom of this world that people come to Christ but through the nonsense of preaching as the Holy Spirit opens the eyes and ears of hearts to see and hear.

The root of the problem you've identified is the deception that has descended upon the world since the Fall. And with Truth lying dead in the streets, people make up their own truth by whatever is right in their own eyes which isn't really truth or true at all.

Salvation in and thru Christ Jesus is indeed a first step toward recovery. But Cbristians need more than a lifetime to get it all straightened out.

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News Item5/5/18 12:17 PM
Been Watching | North America  Find all comments by Been Watching
Dr. Tim wrote:
"Heavenly Father loves us for who we are. He wants us to be happy, as long as we're treating people well and we're being who we truly are and we're not hurting anyone."
Wow. She must have spent months looking up all the scriptures that support THAT opinion. Suppose "who we truly are" is Hitler or Stalin? Good to go, right?
Careful, you might start sounding like me Dr. But yes, when people close the scriptures, they will agree with anything. Mormons are deceived and this yet another nail in their coffin.
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News Item5/5/18 6:38 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Even non-christians recognize the nonsense of queer marriages. [URL=http://tech.mit.edu/V124/N5/kolasinski.5c.html]]]http://tinyurl.com/6z3tod (The Secular Case Against Gay Marriage)[/URL].

So how could even secular good sense be flooded over by the unnaturalness, satanic campaign for queer marriages

Molly Ball wrote:
...The quest for gay marriage had some unique features. Most other issue campaigns, for example, have Congress as their ultimate target, not the courts (though the environmental movement has long used lawsuits to advance its aims, including the elimination of coal plants). But the basic design‚ÄĒstrategically targeting states to create momentum for national change‚ÄĒcould still apply....

... This is another lesson Solomon believes other movements could learn: Make an emotional argument based on positive values.... [ ]

--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/y75pgmk4]]]http://tinyurl.com/y75pgmk4 (What Other Activists Can Learn From the Fight for Gay Marriage)[/URL]

This article could also help people counter evil ideas that are bad for society if they learn how these ideas are presented to the public.

But most assuredly, these unwholesome projects are best stopped by bringing people to Christ.

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News Item5/5/18 3:43 AM
Savedbygrace | Nottingham U.K.  Find all comments by Savedbygrace
The bottom line is not our happiness, it's God's happiness when He sees us obeying His word, and not twisting it it to suit our own perverted needs and lustful senses. The chief end of man is to glorify God and enjoy Him forever.
‚ÄúTeach me thy way, O Lord; I will walk in thy truth: unite my heart to fear thy name. I will praise thee, O Lord my God, with all my heart: and I will glorify thy name for evermore. For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell.‚ÄĚ
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭86:11-13‬ ‭

Our happiness comes from the happiness of God when He sees that we recognise why He sent His only begotten Son, to suffer and die for our sins, homosexual sins included. And when He sees us bringing glory to Jesus.

Read Spurgeons famous sermon. 'Turn or Burn

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News Item5/5/18 3:16 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
I never expect any good sense to come from unregenerates; and the sky's the limit with evil cults like the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
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News Item5/5/18 12:47 AM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
"Heavenly Father loves us for who we are. He wants us to be happy, as long as we're treating people well and we're being who we truly are and we're not hurting anyone."
Wow. She must have spent months looking up all the scriptures that support THAT opinion. Suppose "who we truly are" is Hitler or Stalin? Good to go, right?
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News Item5/5/18 12:33 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
The unfortunate girl who cannot imagine the Lord not wanting people to be happy as they are so long as they don't seem to be hurting anyone is deceived. And this sentiment is running through mainline and moderate Christian groups as well.

The Lord calls us to holiness and contentment in patience, not necessarily happiness.

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