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FRONT PAGE  |  9/20/2019
SUNDAY, APR 22, 2018  |  9 comments
New Allegations Against Bill Hybels

Last night, Willow Creek Community Church made a promise to its members following the early departure of its founder and senior pastor, Bill Hybels.

“Even though Bill is no longer in his role, our work to resolve any shadow of doubt in the trustworthiness of [Willow] is not done,” the church’s board of elders told members in a Friday evening letter. “With the benefit of hindsight, we see several aspects of our past work that we would have handled differently, and we have identified several areas of learning.”

Last week, Hybels retired six months early after 40 years as leader of Willow Creek, calling recent allegations against him a distraction for the megachurch and its ministries. Hybels denied any wrongdoing. He did admit regretting that he first responded to the allegations with anger.

Yesterday, the elders similarly expressed regret in the way the church handled the allegations. ...


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News Item4/23/18 5:30 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
You gentlemen should like this article then:
Sarah Pulliam Bailey wrote:
..Trump’s language is laced with the some of the key tropes of modern American evangelicalism: reinvention, entrepreneurialism and individualism.

“Even if what he’s saying doesn’t coincide with evangelical belief, his style feels more familiar,” Prior said.

Yet it is Hillary Clinton who has had a long-standing relationship with evangelical leaders over the decades, including social activist Tony Campolo and megachurch leaders Bill and Lynne Hybels and Rick and Kay Warren.... [ ]

--[URL=https://tinyurl.com/y8zomf66]]]https://tinyurl.com/y8zomf66 (The deep disgust for Hillary Clinton that drives so many evangelicals to support Trump)[/URL]
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News Item4/23/18 3:36 PM
Been Watching  Find all comments by Been Watching
My Own 2 cents wrote:
@Been Watching,
Yes. I agree.
The 1% of articles Jim posts on here are pretty good, the rest of the 99%...not so good. 😕
I guess he needs our prayers then.
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News Item4/23/18 3:33 PM
My Own 2 cents  Find all comments by My Own 2 cents
@Been Watching,
Yes. I agree.
The 1% of articles Jim posts on here are pretty good, the rest of the 99%...not so good. 😕
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News Item4/23/18 3:29 PM
Been Watching  Find all comments by Been Watching
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Hybels and Warren have a lot in common as this article points out
excerpt from [URL=http://tinyurl.com/y97djy99]]]http://tinyurl.com/y97djy99 (The Gospel According to Hybels & Warren)[/URL]
"The philosophy that marries marketing technique with church growth theory is the result of bad theology. It assumes that if you package the gospel right, people will get saved. It is rooted in Arminianism, which makes the human will, not a sovereign God, the decisive factor in salvation...."---John MacArthur
Great quote Jim. Right on the button.
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News Item4/23/18 3:09 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Hybels and Warren have a lot in common as this article points out
Nathan Busenitz wrote:
...Because of the combined influence of these two men and the churches they lead, their evangelistic philosophies (which are essentially identical) warrant examination from a biblical perspective. Obviously, their approach has produced large numbers. The question this paper is concerned with, however, is have they done so in a biblical manner. This study will attempt to answer that question by first investigating the evangelistic message of Hybels and Warren, and then investigating their evangelistic method. Along the way, in order to test what they espouse, their philosophical tenets will be compared with the teachings of Scripture (Cf. Acts 17:11)....
excerpt from [URL=http://tinyurl.com/y97djy99]]]http://tinyurl.com/y97djy99 (The Gospel According to Hybels & Warren)[/URL]

"The philosophy that marries marketing technique with church growth theory is the result of bad theology. It assumes that if you package the gospel right, people will get saved. It is rooted in Arminianism, which makes the human will, not a sovereign God, the decisive factor in salvation...."---John MacArthur

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News Item4/22/18 5:05 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Dee wrote:
I have heard of some churches that require the members of the staff to sign non-disclosure agreements, and that is a sure sign the church is doing something wrong. Requiring churches and religious organizations to file an IRS form 990 would in no way impede the constitutionally guaranteed freedom of religion, but it would help to expose those greedy preachers who are using the constitution to conceal their improper accumulation of wealth at the expense of American citizens. ---FB Jones?
--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/yb8gtr9b]]]http://tinyurl.com/yb8gtr9b (Should Members Keep Giving Money to a Church That Refuses to Disclose the Pastor’s Salary? )[/URL]--No

[URL=http://tinyurl.com/y8xksrlr]]]Corinthians 5:11-13[/URL]

I find it amazing that some of the people with the worst theology have the best morals when it comes to money matters. It appears that I can't criticize Bill Hybels on the point of covetousness at least. He was quite open about his salary and had even put a cap on it. I don't know if it's churches are a member of the ECFA though.

Also WFP:

Titus 1:6
if anyone is blameless, the husband of one wife, having children who believe, who are not accused of loose or unruly behavior.

A pastor has to be abov

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News Item4/22/18 3:15 PM
Wayfarer Pilgrim | Lubbock,tx  Find all comments by Wayfarer Pilgrim
There is a good chance that the reason Willow Creek members refused to speak is because staff and members can be deposed by the plaintives. Bill Hybels operated as a seducer of women. For the 8 who felt uncomfortable, there are probably dozens which went along and had consensual relations with him. His church was complicit in knowing him, his ways and got caught. Where else can you say, “ we’ll keep listening and working through this “ but at a church .
David Koresh was a seducer of people , as was Jim Jones, ..., give thanks Bill Hybels left, be thankful Mark Driscoll left. The wake of the ungodly starts at the center and goes to the shoreline.
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News Item4/22/18 1:24 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Matthew Henry's Concise Commentary wrote:
​9-12 Both the heart and mouth must be watched. The temper and
spirit of Diotrephes was full of pride and ambition. It is bad
not to do good ourselves; but it is worse to hinder those who
would do good. Those cautions and counsels are most likely to be
accepted, which are seasoned with love. Follow that which is
good, for he that doeth good, as delighting therein, is born of
God. Evil-workers vainly pretend or boast acquaintance with God.
Let us not follow that which is proud, selfish, and of bad
design, though the example may be given by persons of rank and
power; but let us be followers of God, and walk in love, after
the example of our Lord.
You should spot many errors in Hybels business model of running a church👎 after reading the CT article, [URL=http://tinyurl.com/y7phe37e]]]http://tinyurl.com/y7phe37e (Bill Hybels Accused of Sexual Misconduct by Former Willow Creek Leaders)[/URL].

However, the errors in the Hybels model are made sharply clear in the article by Steven J. Cole, [URL=https://tinyurl.com/yd79hmcj]]]https://tinyurl.com/yd79hmcj (Lesson 8: Who’s In Charge Of The Church? (1 Timothy 3:1 and other Scriptures))[/URL]👍
[Audio & Transcript]❗

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News Item4/22/18 5:28 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Excellent CT article!

Bob Smietana wrote:
....
“Hybels has, in many writings and speeches, made clear what the standard for clergy conduct should be. If these allegations are true, he would be guilty of not just betraying his family and congregation, but the larger Christian world to whom he preached these standards.”

Megachurch pastors are no more flawed that pastors of small churches, ... But they fall harder, and with more consequences, because of their outsized influence both in the church and the broader culture.

Yet they are often seen as untouchable.

“The mega platform of these churches, with their thousands of followers, millions of dollars, and outsized social influence demand structures of accountability beyond the individual clergy’s conscience and godly morality,” .... “Yet even the sincerest board or well-meaning council of elders find it difficult to stand up to the founder of such a seemingly ‘mighty work of God.’”...---Scott Thumma, a sociologist of religion and a megachurch researcher at Hartford Seminary

--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/y7phe37e]]]http://tinyurl.com/y7phe37e (Bill Hybels Accused of Sexual Misconduct by Former Willow Creek Leaders)[/URL].

And other words, the elders are working for the pastor and not the

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