Church members at First United Methodist Church of Louisville, Mississippi have overwhelmingly voted to withdraw the congregation's membership from the UMC denomination, citing a number of issues including homosexuality and abortion as the reasons.
Members of the over 180-year-old congregation held a "membership affirmation" vote this past Sunday to determine whether they wished to remain affiliated with UMC. In a 175-6 vote, the congregation expressed its desire to remove the church from the denomination.
"This is not a decision based upon dissatisfaction with our fellow churches in the Mississippi Conference. We have great respect for Bishop James Swanson and the leaders of the Mississippi Conference of the UMC," Rev. Mike Childs said in a statement following the vote. "Rather, this is a decision that our consciences forced us to make because the failure of the United Methodist denomination to...
I should have mentioned the particular deficiency that this church, still seems to possess even if it leaves the Methodist Church.
While people may think the Arminian nature of Methodist theology and it's two stage approach to salvation is serious, and it is, I think it has a much worse problem than that.
I don't see where this Methodist Church even if it's put the Bible ahead of everything else, wouldn't still support Church tradition and input from laity and prelacy as well. Something that would not make many an independent fundamentalist Baptist happy about. ūüĎé
The Methodist Church of course has some good things being a denomination. They're usually completely open about finances, which some conservative Baptist Churches fall flat on their face about. See [URL=http://tinyurl.com/y9pv8zqe]]]http://tinyurl.com/y9pv8zqe (Court Rules Churches Can Continue To Conceal Financial Information)[/URL] and they somewhat tried to contain The Cult of the Personality-- [URL=http://tinyurl.com/y6wccgv2]]]http://tinyurl.com/y6wccgv2 (The Cult of Personality)[/URL] still something that Baptist Churches can also fall flat on their faces about.
A church certainly should support morality within the church‚Ěó unfortunately the Methodist Church inherits Catholic ideas from its direct ancestor, the Anglican Church, which was a poor copy of the Romish Church on top of that many conservative churches are more interested in politics than Christianity ūüĎé
John MacArthur wrote: ...The whole idea of a public morality, of fighting for morality on a sort of an unregenerate level, escapes me as any kind of biblical mandate. The Bible says in 2 Timothy 3:13, ‚ÄúEvil men will get worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived.‚ÄĚ The longer we live, the more we accumulate dangerous seasons, dangerous times. And the accumulation of this moving toward the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ indicates that it's just going to get worse and worse and worse. Trying to reclaim the culture politically, or even religiously, organizationally, seems to me to be completely off target in terms of what a biblical mandate is, which has really nothing to do with some collective morality and everything to do with individual salvation. That that's what we're called to do.
---[URL=http://tinyurl.com/yaj7vvbz]]]http://tinyurl.com/yaj7vvbz (The Ecumenical Jihad: War Without A Winner)[/URL]
With regard to YouTube, there are still some good Christian messages out there. While looking in it, I came upon some sermons and testimonies from Calgary Free Presbyterian Church, pastored I believe by Armen Thomassien, who is known here at SA.
How long this will be tolerated by the left wing folks that run social media at YouTube, Facebook and so on, I don't know, but let us make the most of it while it is there.
It is good to see a Methodist church make a stand like this, and I hope that they are able to keep their building; but if not, I trust they may be able to purchase another building, perhaps of another liberal church that has closed down!!
At Christmas time I stayed in a Methodist owned seaside hotel in Cornwall, tragically here the official Methodist Church is very liberal.
I did however attend a tiny Methodist chapel very near the hotel, and the service was taken by a lay preacher who was straight down the line evangelical, and preached a good solid Biblical message that John Wesley would have been proud of!
I believe we have been at. significant cultural war for over the last 65 years. And perhaps it is what never mended after the civil war. It began again with the federal process of desegregation starting in 1948, with integration of the armed services , a good for all. Brown vs the board of education, a wonderful decision for all Americans. But, the cusp of this current cultural war is same sex attraction and snuffing out desent . It is about destroying people who want to raise their families with faith and a hope for their own. And for all the lies the left and of sodmites in particular, who have said ‚Äú we just wanted to sleep with as many as we could love and make it nobodies business ‚Äú . No, wickedness never sleeps.
The southern part of the United Methodist Church was usually more conservative than the northern part. Apparently some Churches south of the Mason-Dixon Line still are, but there is a liberal deterioration.
The church in the SA article wants to stay Methodist-like. Who knows perhaps the modern Methodist Church will divided along liberal and conservative line rather than if it support slavery or not?
Another problem is who gets the church property? That question was asked in the article, but it wasn't pointed out it was a really big question‚Ěó As one group of lawyers pointed out:
Dalton + Tomich wrote: There are few issues in Church law more perplexing than understanding the ownership of Church property. This is even more true with respect to a local congregation that is affiliated with the United Methodist Church.
Unfortunately, there is no specific answer to the ownership of property issue as the answer is based on an interpretation of the Methodist trust clause under state trust law.