Empty churches. One-person congregations. Ministers "dressed up with no one to listen." Is this the stark reality facing Church of England parishes?
While to many, the future of the denomination looks bleak, there are major efforts at work aimed at bringing the faithful back to the church.
One is a digital initiative that develops new ideas to enhance outreach and information. Another seeks to showcase the importance of the church community during momentous events in people's lives, such as weddings and funerals, when they're seeking answers to critical questions....
Awesome to hear that you have a committee for evangelism, my IFB church can't afford a bus...come to think of it I don't know where we would park it. LOL
Since I was raised on the KJV, I do most of my scripture memorization out of that, the rest are NASB. Although I have heard rumors that there'll be a JOV Bible (Joel Osteen Version)
cv, I'm a Calvinist as well, and sometimes we'll have a Calvinism discussion on SA, but usually if you bring up KJVonlyism or Calvinism, you can see who is who.
If you're looking for a solid Reformed Church (or a solid IFB church) ask the Pastor:
1. If he's a monergist or synergist. 2. What the Trinity is. 3. What the attributes of God are. 4. Who Jesus is and how His work and death apply to the church. 5. What Jesus accomplished in the death of death in the death of Christ. 6. What the Person and work of the Spirit is. 7. What is man's spiritual anthropology. 8. Is the scriptures the word of God? 9. What is the Gospel? 10. How do we evangelize men with the gospel?
Connor, One thing about IFB Churches, they are the most evangelical churches around. Most churches talk about evangelizing the lost( we have a committee for that) , a IFB Church will send a bus to pick up the lost. They maybe KJV only, but I‚Äôd rather it be that than dealing with another copy written update to mess with your memorization skills. ( HCSB ... now the CSB, blah, blah, blah) blessings
Thanks both of you. Ironically, the two I've been trying to look up were the independent Baptist and reformed Baptist.
I am a T.U.L.I.P.
It is very hard to tell from a few sermons, or a church's statement of faith, what they believe in. Both, Armenianists' and Calvinists' use the same biblical terminologies. Can you tell which ones are which here on SA? You can even have a "Baptist" that speaks in tongues.
I prefer a smaller independent run church that is not under a large organization. For you can see how divergent or "progressive" doctrines have to mix and get along in large organized denominations.
On large churches, I've been visiting Hillsong with my kids. To say "epic" is an understatement. Even with multiple morning services, its quite AWEsome to be in a service surrounded by several thousand people, with loud contemporary music, huge screens, kids building with jumping castles, food carts outside...etc. Makes you WANNA go to church!!!
But despite being wrapped up in bad doctrine of Pentecostalism/female pastors/NAR/seeker sensitive Arminianism, Hillsong people really do love the LORD. And I pray for them.
Hearing from the two of you is very encouraging - as confirmation of the direction I was already headed in!
...the sinner's prayer affects your understanding of man's anthropology, the carnal Christian affects the doctrine of salvation, the doctrine of the atonement, the doctrine of the Holy Spirit, etc, and the invitation system affects the sinfulness of sin.
Furthermore, the "Non Lordship Salvation" doctrine affects your doctrine of salvation, repentance, the attributes of God and the anthropology of man.
Now, if things are getting better over there in Lubbock, then that's great, I'm glad to hear that, do as much as you possibly can to pass solid doctrine to the next generation.
Let me add more to my comment, I agree with Wayfarer that you ought to listen to the sermons, and I would actually set up a meeting with the pastor, look at their confession of faith, I think it involves a whole lot of prayer, and counsel from your friends (Christian friends and family)
Wayfarer, I am an IFB and I attend an IFB church, I've taught classes and I am involved in it and the IFB church I attend is very fantastic, I love the people there and I love the elders, but I must admit, that the church I attend is in the minority of solid IFB churches,
I have been to numerous youth conferences, and I keep on hearing bad theology, bad argumentation, and a speaker who is trying to keep the teens amused.
There are some speakers who want to show a seriousness of proper Bible study and theology, but they are in the minority.
The majority (at least here in California) of IFB adhere to the sinner's prayer, carnal Christian (I was taught that it was scriptural in my 1 year of Bible College) they do the invitation system, and these things attack doctrines...
I think you‚Äôd have to look at what a church believes, what is their doctrine and listening to sermons, then go visit. The community of God, the church, should be able to stand the test of time. Yet, as a life long Baptist, doctrine, is just in the last 20 years, been, rediscovered. But, on IFB,churches, I love our local IFB Churches, I listen to Bethany Baptist every Sunday on the radio, but, many put behavior ( suit,tie, fly right boy, the pastor tells us how to act , etc) above the ability to be guided by the Word and the spirit of God.
Hold the phone! Is Jim an Independent Fundamental Baptist? ūüôÄ Because, I don't know about you, but I don't think I've ever heard a non IFB recommend an IFB church.
And what's similar to an IFB church? In general, the IFB churches are lead by people who are KJVonly, and who really don't like Calvinism, and that hold to 'the carnal Christian' idea, sinner's prayer, and...well...let's just say theologically challenged.
I was listening to an IFB preacher the other day and he said that the Trinity is the easiest thing, then he started to teach long rejected heresies such as modalism, and partialism. (now not every IFB church is like this, there are some solid IFB churches)
But, I'm trying to think of what would be similar to a IFB church, Presbyterians, Methodists, Anglicans, Reformed Baptists, Calvary Chapel, Lutherans, non-denominational, church, etc, are nothing like an IFB church,
So Jim, what denomination would be like an IFB church?
A state church is not a Christian Church‚Ěó This is very succinctly pointed it out in [URL=http://tinyurl.com/lnfasn7]]]http://tinyurl.com/lnfasn7 (How should a Christian view the separation of church and state?)[/URL]
We can only hope that the Church of England dies a quick death and people that are in it that have an interest in Christianity join an independent fundamentalist Baptist Church or something of a similar nature
"One is a digital initiative that develops new ideas to enhance outreach and information. Another seeks to showcase the importance of the church community during momentous events in people's lives, such as weddings and funerals, when they're seeking answers to critical questions. ..."
I hardly think the CoE is the place to go to have critical questions answered.
Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent. (Revelation 2:5)