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Choice News SATURDAY, MAR 3, 2018  |  226 comments
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SermonAudio & Our Position on Billy Graham
“Truth is fallen in the streets.” — Isaiah 59:14

We feel compelled to make our position clear to our SermonAudio audience regarding the issue of Billy Graham with the understanding that we must respectfully disagree with some of our closest brethren and personal friends. There is no denying that Dr. Graham had a towering influence in Christendom in our generation and we certainly join our voice in thanksgiving to God for every soul genuinely won to Christ through his ministry. We know of many whose lives have been affected for good and there is no minimizing it or denying it. Having said that, it is nevertheless important to us to set forward the following concern and caution.

We do not wish to caricature a man’s entire ministry based on a few short clips. So regardless of how Dr. Graham may have misspoke on various occasions, whether it was in the interview with Robert Schuller or David Frost, the most substantial concern and caution we have with Dr. Graham’s overarching ministry was his consistent pattern of cooperation with the Roman Catholic Church in his evangelistic campaigns from the earliest years and his deliberate attempts to remove the walls between Evangelicalism and Catholicism erected by the 16th century Reformers. It is on this one particular issue that we would offer our strongest word of caution. Despite Dr. Graham’s praise for the Roman Catholic Pope as “one of the greatest moral and spiritual leaders of this century” (The Saturday Evening Post, Jan 1980), our forefathers throughout church history have made it clear in no uncertain terms that the Pope of Rome is “that Antichrist, that man of sin, and son of perdition, that exalts himself, in the Church, against Christ and all that is called God.” (Westminster Confession XXV).

The chief motivation for this article is this: Roman Catholicism, although it calls itself Christian, preaches another Gospel and must never be confused with true Bible Christianity. For anyone to suggest otherwise must be called to task.

Be sure to listen to Dr. John MacArthur’s excellent sermon clip on this specific issue. Also, we highly recommend this starter sermon as a great place to start in clearly setting forth the Gospel in all its simplicity.

In addition, listen to this radio interview of Dr. Ian Paisley some years ago which contains a succinct and lively debate on Catholicism. Here’s another equally enjoyable yet slightly shorter radio debate.

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News Item3/30/18 2:00 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Columnist Geo. Will and SermonAudio have much of the same opinion of Billy Graham.

George Will's column follows after some extraneous print matter before it.

Geo. Will wrote:
Asked in 1972 if he believed in miracles, Billy Graham answered: Yes, Jesus performed some and there are many "miracles around us today, including television and airplanes." Graham was no theologian.

Neither was he a prophet. Jesus said "a prophet hath no honor in his own country." Prophets take adversarial stances toward their times, as did the 20th century's two greatest religious leaders, Martin Luther King and Pope John Paul II. Graham did not. Partly for that reason, his country showered him with honors....

Graham's effects are impossible to quantify. His audiences were exhorted to make a "decision" for Christ, but a moment of volition might be (in theologian Dietrich Bonhoeffer's phrase) an exercise in "cheap grace." Graham's preaching, to large rallies and broadcast audiences, gave comfort to many people and probably improved some....

--[URL=http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/will02218.php3]]]Billy Graham was no prophet; His dealings with presidents mixed vanity and naivete[/URL]❗
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News Item3/13/18 9:40 AM
Addendum  Find all comments by Addendum
Donald wrote:
Yea, let’s demean and defame him now that he is not here to defend himself......I pray the only one any of us will answer to (JESUS) is who he abides with today......even the word tells us how to address our brethren; not how to belittle their lives after they are gone
The same criticisms were levelled against him during his lifetime. The man was a false teacher and worked in league with the harlot church. Should we speak well of someone who failed the Lord just because he is dead?
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News Item3/13/18 8:18 AM
Donald | Texas  Find all comments by Donald
Yea, let’s demean and defame him now that he is not here to defend himself......I pray the only one any of us will answer to (JESUS) is who he abides with today......even the word tells us how to address our brethren; not how to belittle their lives after they are gone
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News Item3/12/18 9:56 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
Thank you Addendum.
The defense of this individual on these threads for years is quite cultish.
He was the SBC pope, a physician of no value who did nothing but blur the lines of the true gospel as he built a religious empire.

--
Thanks Frank for your thoughts also.

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News Item3/12/18 8:54 PM
Addendum  Find all comments by Addendum
MS wrote:
To awatcher from Mo.
BG was an ecumenical pied piper who stood for nothing and will be remembered by many of us as Mr. Facing Both Ways.
His eternal abode is none of our business, nor should it be speculated on.
I came across this quote in reading an apologetics book, and it is so good I thought I'd share it here:

"“Jesus called his followers to surrender their lives, their pride, their earthly security and, at times, their possessions—right down to the shirts on their backs. He never, however, called them to surrender the truth. That they are charged with guarding, even if it costs them their lives”

Excerpt From: “Theistic Evolution.”

Did Billy Graham do this? Did he guard the truth with his life? The clear answer to any unprejudiced mind is that he sold out on it and compromised it to the hurt of the true gospel and true churches and to the end of erecting a false gospel and building up the false churches.

His admirers will nevertheless blindly worship their idol, as we observe in threads like this.

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News Item3/12/18 4:26 PM
Frank  Contact via emailFind all comments by Frank
MS wrote:
To awatcher from Mo.
BG was an ecumenical pied piper who stood for nothing and will be remembered by many of us as Mr. Facing Both Ways.
His eternal abode is none of our business, nor should it be speculated on.
Well said! In all the negative things I have said about BG, I have never once even pondered his eternal state.

But, as you would also say, this doesn't in the slightest mean we shouldn't expose his heresy. We actually have a Christian duty to do that!

I remember once when I lived in VA and I was going to some type of Christmas service. I remember this visitor was sitting behind me and I engaged him. He said he lived near BG and that he was a follower of Graham. I simply kindly warned him to beware because the pastor often spoke against BG. This fellow gave me such a dirty looked and said if that was true, he was leaving and he left.

For sure, BG had a charisma that I can't begin to fathom. But, he was an ecumenical pied piper for sure.

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News Item3/12/18 4:00 PM
MS  Find all comments by MS
To awatcher from Mo.

BG was an ecumenical pied piper who stood for nothing and will be remembered by many of us as Mr. Facing Both Ways.

His eternal abode is none of our business, nor should it be speculated on.

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News Item3/12/18 3:26 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
http://www.biblebb.com/files/tonyqa/tc00-105.htm. From that article, "I think everybody that loves Christ, or knows Christ, whether they're conscious of it or not, they're members of the Body of Christ." Graham says you don't have to be conscience of Christ to be saved, where does the Bible teach this?
"As I read the Bible, I find love to be the supreme and dominant attribute of God." Billy Graham, from https://billygraham.org/story/billy-graham-on-experiencing-gods-love/ Apparently Graham never read Isaiah chapter 6, "HOLY HOLY HOLY IS THE LORD OF HOSTS. THE WHOLE EARTH IS FULL OF HIS GLORY!"
"The Bible says God is speaking. And God is saying, “I love you. I love you. I love you. Whoever you are, whatever your circumstances, I love you!” { I ask this, where is this found in the bible?} And because God is love, there’s hope tonight in our hearts."
"You make a choice. You come to the cross of Christ, and you choose Him. And you say, “Lord, I’m a sinner. Please forgive me. I’m sorry for my sins, and I come to the cross where You shed Your blood for me, and I receive You.” from https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2010/a-choice-a-challenge-a-change/
'Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you' John 15:16 Why would God welcome an ecumenical false teacher?
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News Item3/12/18 3:15 PM
awatcher | Mo., USA  Find all comments by awatcher
I know the arguments on BG's 'theology' it was a 'hot topic' when my husband and I entered ministry in the 70's.

But,can't we agree, that the second BG entered Heaven, he only heard the Lord saying, 'well done, thou good and faithful servant'!
And, not a lecture on his theology?
Mt.7:16

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News Item3/12/18 6:41 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | three min flip  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Dolores wrote:
..Bible says ..
clip of Billy Graham preaching at
Billy Graham Portland OR 1992
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ESDRzVwPdSM
TBN played this last Saturday.
He begins by quoting
"“For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.” Mtt12:40

Billy says THAT is what
" the Bible says"
According to Billy
Was he lying??
But
In 3 minutes time he tells you
" the Bible doesn't say Jonas was swallowed by a whale..."2min& 48 seconds into video


How do u do a stage trick like this?
Be Authoritative
Speak Forcefully
Look the part, ( tall, handsome, clean shaved , suit & tie)
Rely on ¡short! Attention span of "silly women" etc.,
Mt12:37
"For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned. "
http://brandplucked.webs.com/matthew1240whale.htm
The Greek word correctly translated in the King James Bible as "Whale" is ketos.
modern Greek dictionary . It's just a Greek/English dictionary. If you look up the Greek word ketos it simply says WHALE.

So listen to 1st minute of Billy Graham?
1.rebukes false Bible-Mt12:37,40

Then demonstrates his equivocating prevarication

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News Item3/12/18 4:08 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
John UK wrote:
Excellent summary statement by Steve Lee, founder of SA. It would be odd if anyone here could not stand alongside that assessment.
Good post, John.

Here's the positive side of SA's assessment:

"We feel compelled to make our position clear to our SermonAudio audience regarding the issue of Billy Graham with the understanding that we must respectfully disagree with some of our closest brethren and personal friends. There is no denying that Dr. Graham had a towering influence in Christendom in our generation and we certainly join our voice in thanksgiving to God for every soul genuinely won to Christ through his ministry. We know of many whose lives have been affected for good and there is no minimizing it or denying it."

Note, "we must respectfully disagree with some of our closest brethren and personal friends". (The immature will get to this kind of etiquette eventually.)

"we certainly join our voice in thanksgiving to God for every soul genuinely won to Christ through his ministry". (The immature cannot see this.)

"We know of many whose lives have been affected for good and there is no minimizing it or denying it". (Fruit.)

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News Item3/12/18 12:45 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
"It does not like doctrinal preaching; it is always so vague… The false prophet very rarely tells you anything about the holiness, the righteousness, the justice, and the wrath of God. He always preaches about the love of God, but those other things he does not mention. He never makes anyone tremble as he thinks of this holy and august Being. – D. Martyn Lloyd Jones, Studies in the Sermon on the Mount, 1976, pages 501-502
'I do not understand that mentality in the Christian Church today which says that we must all come together and sink our differences; and that what we believe does not matter. It is a denial of the Book of the Acts of the Apostles, and of the story of the twelve ignorant, untutored and unlettered men who knew whom and what they believed, and who had the power of the Spirit upon them, and who ‘turned the world upside-down’. So many of these modern preachers are much nicer people than the Apostle Paul! They never say a word against anyone at all, they praise everybody, and they are praised by everybody. They are never ‘negative’! They never define what they believe and what they do not believe. They are said to be ‘full of love’. Martyn Lloyd Jones
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News Item3/12/18 12:38 AM
Blind Leading the Blind | Still alive  Find all comments by Blind Leading the Blind
In 2005, when asked by talk show host Larry King if Muslims and others will go to Heaven even though they don’t believe in Christ, Graham replied, “That’s in God’s hands. I can’t be the judge.”

“How do you feel when you see a lot of these strong Christian leaders go on television and say, ‘You are condemned. You will live in Hell if you do not accept Jesus Christ,’ and they are forceful and judgmental?” King asked.

“Well, they have a right to say that, and they are true to a certain extent, but I don’t—that’s not my calling,” Graham replied. “My calling is to preach the love of God and the forgiveness of God and the fact that He does forgive us. … [Y]ou can get off on all kinds of different side trends, and in my earlier ministry, I did the same, but as I got older, I guess I became more mellow and more forgiving and more loving.”

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News Item3/12/18 12:34 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
here's a bump if you need it....

'Billy Graham’s compromise and disobedience began very early in his ministry. He was born in 1918 into a Presbyterian home and traces his conversion to the preaching of evangelist Mordecai Ham in 1934. He graduated from high school in May 1936 and attended Bob Jones College (which later became Bob Jones University) in the fall but switched to Florida Bible Institute after only one semester because he did not like the strict discipline at Bob Jones.

He notes in his biography that "one thing that thrilled me [about Florida Bible Institute] was the diversity of viewpoints we were exposed to in the classroom, a wondrous blend of ecumenical and evangelical thought that was really ahead of its time" (Graham, Just As I Am, p. 46).

THE COMPROMISE BEGAN MUCH EARLIER THAN 1957, THOUGH. AS EARLY AS 1944, BILLY GRAHAM WAS BEFRIENDED BY ONE OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL CATHOLIC LEADERS IN AMERICA, FULTON SHEEN.

When Sheen died in December 1979, Graham testified that he had "known him as a friend for over 35 years" (Religious News Service, Dec. 11, 1979). Sheen was a faithful son of Rome.'
Source - https://www.wayoflife.org/database/grahamcompromise.html

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News Item3/12/18 12:32 AM
Blind Leading the Blind | Still alive  Find all comments by Blind Leading the Blind
In his best-selling autobiography “Just As I Am,” Graham wrote about a meeting with then-President Bill Clinton, “It was a time of warm fellowship with a man who has not always won the approval of his fellow Christians, but who has in his heart a desire to serve God and do His will.”
The popular preacher was known to be ecumenical in nature, as USA Today reported in 2012, “Graham forged relationships with Catholics up to and including Pope John Paul II, whom he met in Rome in 1981.”
“I almost feel as though one of my family members has gone. I loved him very much and had the opportunity of discussing so many things with him. And we wrote each other several times during the years,” Graham told talk show host Larry King following the Roman Catholic leader’s passing. “… He traveled throughout the world to bring his Christian message to the world.”
Statements made during a 1997 appearance on Robert Schuller’s “Hour of Power” also drew questions from Christians, even to the time of his death. During the broadcast, Graham suggested that Muslims and those of other religions may be saved without hearing of Christ or reading the Scriptures—just by realizing that they “need something,” although not pinpointing what it is.
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News Item3/12/18 12:26 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Is there more BLTB?

"How can one say that a movement which is theologically in error is being greatly used of God? Does God employ erroneous theology to achieve His purposes?" from http://www.itib.org/articles/tragedy_of_compromise/tragedy_of_compromise_3-5.html

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News Item3/12/18 12:23 AM
Blind Leading the Blind | Still alive  Find all comments by Blind Leading the Blind
In a video posted to YouTube on the day of Billy Graham’s death, talk show host Glenn Beck emotionally recollected to Ruth Graham, the daughter of Billy Graham, a time that he said Graham defended him—knowing that he was a Mormon—as being a Christian.

The video was of a 2014 interview in which the two talked about the life and character of Graham, and the memories they had of the crusade preacher.

“I remember five years ago, your father asked me some very pointed questions,” Beck outlined at one point during the discussion. “And somebody in the room said, ‘Just a reminder, he’s Mormon.’ And your father turned to the individual and said, ‘I know.'”

“And he looked back at me and said—we were talking about a certain subject—and he said, ‘Tell me how you know that came from Christ,'” he recalled. “And I told him.”

“And he (Graham) looked back to the other individual and said, ‘He sure sounds Christian to me,'” Beck said.

“When we were children, we were making fun of the devil, and Daddy stopped us and said, ‘Don’t make fun of the devil. He’s a good devil,'” Ruth recounted, laughing. “Daddy never said anything ugly about anybody. … It’s quite a legacy for me, to not be so critical.”

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News Item3/12/18 12:20 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
continue..


Here's another good message - The Identification of Antichrist according to the Great Reformers (Rev. Stephen Hamilton)- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wTkydngiP8

It all ties in doesn't it?

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News Item3/12/18 12:18 AM
Blind Leading the Blind | Still alive  Find all comments by Blind Leading the Blind
CBN.com – LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA (ANS) -- Speaking on the April 2 edition of CNN's Larry King Live program Dr. Billy Graham said that that Pope John Paul II was the most influential voice for morality and peace in the world in the last 100 years.
Dr. Graham told Larry King he had the privilege of seeing the Pope on several occasions at the Vatican.

"And tonight, I have a very strange feeling of loss. I almost feel as though one of my family members has gone. I loved him very much and had the opportunity of discussing so many things with him. And we wrote each other several times during the years," Dr. Graham said.
Larry King asked Dr. Graham: "Did he actually say to you once, "We are brothers' "?
GRAHAM: That's correct. He certainly did. He held my hand the first time that I met him about 1981 -- he'd just been Pope for two years when I saw him first. Because when he was elevated to the papacy, I was preaching in his cathedral in Krakow that very day. And we had thousands of people in the streets. And watching the television today of Krakow has brought back many memories.
KING: You said that he was an Evangelist.
GRAHAM: He was, indeed. He traveled throughout the world to bring his Christian message to the world. And we see tonight the outpouring from the world that he t

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News Item3/12/18 12:08 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Well said BLTB
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