Nearly half of Americans cremated rather than buried
We are seeing a fundamental shift in how we approach death and what comes after. Compared to just a few decades ago, vastly more Americans are foregoing the old-fashioned burial and turning to the alternative of cremation. This is what brought me here to Rosehill, and now my tour with Jim Koslovski, president of the Rosehill and Rosedale Cemetery, is about to go deeper into his world to see how cemeteries are dealing with Americaâ€™s after-death revolution.
Hugh wrote: John, I understand now cheers, still think it was a brave move going on a tour. I couldn't have done that, but kudos to you brother. Â£7k !!! That's a lot of money, I shall have to look further into this, I did intend to do it this summer God willing, your info shall act as impetuous for me to get a move on as it will only get more expensive. ... God Bless brother
Bro, I wouldn't hesitate to recommend a guided tour, if your local facility does them. A reinforced cardboard coffin can be got for about Â£200, and the cheapest way of doing the whole thing I found was under Â£2k, which leaves much more monies available to leave behind for the work of the Lord. There are prepayment plans available, which offsets the increasing costs year by year.
It's actually something to look forward to, because "absent from the body, present with the Lord", which is far better. Imagine that, to see the Lord Jesus Christ face to face, and all the glories of heaven, with all the angels and other creatures, the perfect worship, and no sin. Perfection.
Carol, I am delighted that our musings on such a sensitive topic has been a help to you. . John , I understand now cheers, still think it was a brave move going on a tour. I couldn't have done that, but kudos to you brother. Â£7k !!! That's a lot of money, I shall have to look further into this, I did intend to do it this summer God willing, your info shall act as impetuous for me to get a move on as it will only get more expensive. I am currently at a Christian Conference in Cheshire, two Godly converted Jewish brothers are teaching. I highly recommend Jacob Prasch to you, he is an excellent end times teacher, with a brain the size of a bus!!!! Check him out on you tube, He is a brash New Yorker, who calls a spade a spade!!!! And isn't slow to call out the money preachers !! Something that's long overdue I believe from well known Christian preachers. God Bless brother
Thank you to the posters from the UK who were having the discussion concerning cremation. I appreciate the openness with which you both were willing to share with us. This subject is very hard to talk about with ones family and acquaintances as it seems to make them uncomfortable and wanting to change the subject quickly.:-)
Once again, thank you as I benefitted from your posts.
No, it was my decision to have a guided tour. I was in the office at the crem for half an hour, getting facts and costs, asking questions, learning as much as I could. And the young lady who was helping me actually offered a tour anytime, with full access to witness everything. So I went for it, and right glad I did. Two others came with me, and she showed us all that happens from the moment the curtain closes.
They have a very large hilly area where burials take place, and people can walk along the roads which meander through it. The grass is well cut, and no-one would know there are thousands of people buried there; after the burial the grass is replaced and soon looks just like a lawn.
The only memorials are small kerbside stones along the sides of the road, but I won't even have one of those. I won't be having a service or a witnessed burial.
A local funeral director, who bought up an old Baptist chapel and cemetery for his business offered me a plot for an actual burial with headstone, but he quoted me about Â£7,000 and I didn't feel like paying that.
John UK Dude, not sure who organised your birthday treat, but I could have thought of more pleasant ways to spend that special day lol That said, I was offered similar by a friend of my late wife's , I respectfully declined;-) In our local crematorium there is a Garden of Rest, a nice private quiet place where many choose to spread the ashes of their loved ones, having done this in the past for a relative, I was still surprised at the amount of grey ash amongst the soil... I intend to have a small cremation plot, with a headstone for Mags and myself. Our kids say they would like somewhere to go to chat to us.. So the field you described, do they prepare the hole in advance for you and plant Lilly's as well? Or is that something the family or others have to do? It does seem like a nice elegant solution I have to say John
You're welcome, bro. I have been thinking a lot about how best to deal with mine own interment, and am currently considering cremation. On my birthday I was treated to a guided tour of our local crematorium, going backstage as it were, while a funeral service was in progress (a local evangelical took it, and it was good to hear his preaching through the monitors). I was able to observe everything from the cremation room, and saw how they prepared the ovens and how they arranged the coffins for insertion. The coffin has to be very stiff (body bags do not work) because they are pushed by an electric motor straight from the trolley into the cremator.
The actual cremation takes quite a while, before the ashes are raked out and collected in a stainless steel jug. The remains are then finally ground down further, before placing on a shelf ready for burial early in the morning. My local crem has a large plot of land grassed over, and the ashes are poured into a small hole dug. There are no markers; it is just like a hilly field.
I quite like the idea, because the money saved can go towards more evangelism, to see others get saved.
In response to John Y. desiring a mausoleum: I live near a property once owned by a wealthy man who had a mausoleum built for his remains. I remember visiting it several years ago and sadly area teens had vandalized it down though the years. Now it sits empty with satanic symbols and graffiti painted on it. Perhaps cremation isn't such a bad idea after all.
Happy to hear that John UK thanks. Edward Bear, just because you decide on a cremation , that does not preclude you from still having a grave plot. Here in the UK where space is a concern, as well as cost to be honest. Majority opt for cremation, and in my experience a CHRISTIAN funeral in a crematorium is often used as an opportunity to give a clear Gospel message. My friend asked me to conduct his funeral service, he had terminal cancer, a man more set against the Gospel would be hard to find. However, Billy surrendered his life to Christ in full repentance and The Lord took him home some wks later... My point being, I knew that a load of his workmates were attending the funeral service in the crematorium. ; Believe me I was Delighted to inform them of Billy's conversion. Suffice to say, there was much conversation about it afterwards as we shared a meal. Tis a truism indeed, there are no atheists on their deathbed. I am however confident that one day, I will shake his hand in Glory God Bless
Hard to believe half are being cremated, but I have heard there is a surplus of cemetery plots around, although that could be a local condition. I remember seeing some churches had their own cemetery. The USA seems to be on the opposite side of Mexico, where they have pagan beliefs mixed in with their Catholicism, so they believe their dead relatives visit them in spirit form on the Day of the Dead. One good thing about that custom is that it unifies the family; while cremation, no monuments, in the US is just part of 'nothing to see here, let's move along' attitude. Money doesn't seem to be an object when someone wants to buy a new boat, fancy pickup truck, or go on vacation. But mention ten thousand smackeroos for a funeral, and eyebrows go up. Well, do some shopping around! Costco sells caskets now!
John Yurich USA from USA writes: Yesterday during worship at my Baptist Church we had a guest Pastor(because Pastor was on an ice fishing trip) who is the keyboard player in the gospel band that provides the music during worship.
I'm glad you've been going regularly. You know the other issue that everyone has, and comments what they often do, but at this point, I'll leave that between you and God, having exhausted saying everything I can about it. Run.