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FRONT PAGE  |  10/22/2019
THURSDAY, FEB 15, 2018  |  10 comments
1 in 5 Practicing Christians Have Never Heard of Liturgy: Barna Study
About one in five practicing Christians are unfamiliar with liturgical practices like worship readings and stated creeds, according to a new report from the Barna Group.

In findings released Tuesday, Barna revealed that while 62 percent of respondents are either very familiar or somewhat familiar with liturgy, 19 percent are unfamiliar with the worship concept.

Drawn from a sample of 1,020 individuals labeled "Practicing Christians," Barna found there to be variance among racial backgrounds for the liturgy familiarity question. ...

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News Item2/26/18 2:28 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Liturgical worship, actually all (or almost all ) churches have it, usually it is okay - - until repetitive and unchangeable liturgical elements are introduced into the church service❗ See [URL=]]]What does the Bible say about liturgy? Should a Christian participate in liturgical worship?[/URL]. The article does a good job of explaining liturgical practices. I think it mentions communion, but I have yet to see any article mention baptism - - which doesn't happen every Sunday but still should be considered part of church service.

News Item2/26/18 1:26 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Barnes wrote:
In will worship;...that is, worship beyond what God strictly requires--supererogatory service. Probably many of these things they did not urge as being strictly required, but as conducing greatly to piety. The plea doubtless was, that piety might be promoted by service rendered beyond what was absolutely enjoined, and that thus there would be evinced a spirit of uncommon piety--a readiness not only to obey all that God required, but even to go beyond this, and to render him voluntary service. There is much plausibility in this; and this has been the foundation of the appointment of the fasts and festivals of the church; of penances and self-inflicted tortures; of painful vigils and pilgrimages; of works of supererogation; and of the merits of the "saints." A large part of the corruptions of religion have arisen from this plausible, but deceitful argument. God knew best what things it was most conducive to piety for his people to observe; and we are most safe when we adhere most closely to what he has appointed, and observe no more days and ordinances than he has directed. There is much apparent piety about these things; but there is much wickedness of heart at the bottom, and there is nothing that more tends to corrupt pure religion.

News Item2/25/18 10:20 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Amer. Tract Dictionary 1859 wrote:
Both spiritual and visible, private and public, by individuals, families, and communities, is not only a self-evident duty for all who believe in God, but is abundantly commanded in his word. [The following points out the elements of Church liturgy ]See PRAYER.

The stated assembling of all people for united worship on the Sabbath, in continuance of the temple and synagogue services enjoined by God and practiced by Christ, is most manifest duty. The very name church, meaning assembly, implies it; and the preaching of the gospel, the great means for promoting Christianity, requires it. The directions of Paul, not to forsake the "assembling of ourselves together," to read his epistles "in all the churches," and to join in "psalms and hymns and spiritual songs," and his rules for securing the highest spiritual edification of all when they came together in the church, all indicate the established law of Christianity.

"Will-worship," Col 2:23, is a term descriptive of such forms of adoration and service as are not prescribed in God’s word, but are offensive in his sight. Such are the masses and penances of Popery.

See my earlier posting on Church music

News Item2/15/18 7:43 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | Scratch yer hed  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Dr. Tim wrote:
Liturgy. Ain't that that gravelly stuff you put in a cat box?
No-liturgy is a Baptist church bulletin in non-liturgical churches.
The cat throws litterAl fit if any one varies- puts them in a bad mewd.
Bulletin liturgies make for cold cat churches- Eskimews.

News Item2/15/18 5:28 PM
Watcher | North America  Find all comments by Watcher
Dr. Tim wrote:
Liturgy. Ain't that that gravelly stuff you put in a cat box?
No no Tim, it's the secret sauce we use at our locally owned IHOP. You take mayo and stick it in the sun until it changes color and then when you have to fight off more than three flies, it's ready to use on salads.

News Item2/15/18 5:26 PM
Dr. Tim | Land of Cotton  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Liturgy. Ain't that that gravelly stuff you put in a cat box?

News Item2/15/18 3:20 PM
Steve Doring | Tampa, FL  Find all comments by Steve Doring
Well, good news is that nearly 80 percent do understand what liturgy means. Of course, Barna wrote a book, Revolution, about people leaving what many call 'big box churches,' so it is logical he would do a survey to show how many are not understanding what is going on.
It shows that there is a wide variety of churches out there. I think I heard there are over a thousand different denominations out there.
I remember another news item here about some of those churches supporting a blessing service for an abortion center.
Another thing to remember is that, when you see a health article saying that 'going to church is good for the body' they are not distinguishing what kind of church. An example is a study I saw in a secular health magazine about a study done at Loma Linda University in California about some health practice. I knew right away they are dealing with Seventh Day Adventists, who do not even drink coffee, which most Americans would not want to imitate.

News Item2/15/18 12:51 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
There is almost no such thing as non liturgical worship, John Y.--only formal or informal.
John MacArthur wrote:
Before we really get into our worship, I pray a prayer, as you know, and it’s really a priestly prayer, it’s a prayer to bring the congregation before the Lord, it’s a prayer for the confession of sin, it’s a prayer for cleansing. It’s a prayer for repentance, admitting my sin, the greatness of God, the glory of Christ, the wonder of the gospel. And I go through all of that pretty much every Sunday in that prayer because I want people in their hearts, first of all, to celebrate the greatness of God and the goodness of God and the grace of God and all of that. And then once we’ve gone before God and opened up our hearts to Him, we come out of that confession, out of that repentance, out of that intercession and we’re ready, our hearts have been lifted up and we’re ready to sing. The sermon then comes to inform the foundation of all worship, and that is the truth. If you’re going to worship in spirit and in truth, you have to know the truth....I think the sermon, the truth, is the most important ingredient in worship.
---[URL=]]] (Contemporary Worship: Civil War in the Church)[/URL]

News Item2/15/18 7:48 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Liturgical worship is nice and non liturgical worship is also nice.

News Item2/15/18 2:17 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John MacArthur wrote:
...there’s sort of a bottom-line principle for me when it comes to worship, and it is this. I don’t want to do any music that is going to offend anybody who is there to worship. And I know this, that if we did on Sunday morning what a lot of churches do, which is nothing but flat-out contemporary kind of edgy loud banging, smashing, clanging music, it would offend a huge portion of our congregation...huge. I’m not willing to do that.
--[URL=]]] (Contemporary Worship: Civil War in the Church)[/URL]

John MacArthur had quite a bit to say about liturgical matters besides the music end of it.👍

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