Kentucky school shooting: 2 dead, 12 more shot at Marshall County High School
A 15-year-old boy shot 14 people Tuesday morning at southwestern Kentucky high school, Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin said. A 15-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl died.
Five others suffered non-gunshot injuries, the governor said. The suspect in the incident at Marshall County High School in Benton, Kentucky, has been apprehended, according to officials with Marshall County Emergency Management. It was the nation's first fatal school shooting of 2018.
Police were seen leading a teenager away in handcuffs. The shooter will be charged with murder and attempted murder, Kentucky State Police Lt. Michael Webb said....
It may be guns in America, it will be something else say here in the U.K or anywhere else. As we all know the world is going to hell in a handcart! I realise there will be diverse opinions here on the Masters return, post trib pre tribe etc etc What matters is HE is coming back! ūüėĀ and Brethren, what a time it shall be, God willing I look forward to meeting in person some of the sages here on SA. Connor, I love the Irish, in fact am looking forward to my first trip there in the Spring. I pray Gods' Blessings on all visitors to SA Best Hugh
Hugh, I don't know if you'll hear me out because I'm part Irish ūüôā but I think guns still have their place, i actually wish it were mandatory that teachers carry firearms on them, that way if some kid comes to school wanting to kill people, there'd be plenty of people to stop a massacre.
Hugh Wrote: Sadly for the wonderful USA the Genie cant be put back in the bottle.
Hi there Hugh, this wraps up any arguments very nicely because we just can't go back in time. I'm all for extreme vetting, for sure, although this would serve only as a partial deterrent, but one life saved is better than none, of course. The issue revolves around whether or not a full-on firearm ban, country-wide is possible, or would even work, and the answer is a resounding, "nope". A mass firearms recall would only serve to disarm the licensed citizen, while leaving all of the gangs, thugs, and common criminals, not only well armed, but emboldened, knowing that the next person or store they rob won't have a gun handy to protect themselves, nor will anyone in the next crowd they decide to open fire on for the fun of it all. Automatic weapons are illegal in the US, but repeaters can be purchased to simulate the rapid fire. Bottom line is that we have a real problem here that I just don't see an answer to
Hugh from Scotland wrote... "would be more difficult for the average deranged person to easily get their hands on say an automatic rifle etc."
Not necessary true. I say this because of the current situation with drugs in America. Drug dealers are able to get more drugs than anyone can imagine yet, the Government spends unbelievable amounts‚Äč of money on fighting it. Has it helped? Sure it has kept drugs from being as public. But more people are addicted to them that any other time in history. Making something illegal doesn't not stop it from being used. Guns made illegal would only make law abiding citizens not be able to get them. Criminalals don't mind breaking the law. Be it drugs or guns. Oh, by the way, automatic weapons are illegal here in the US. But I have heard of many people who own them, throughout the United States. The law has not worked.
Country Boy, I am unsure to what you are alluding, I would be grateful therefore if you could explain a little more what you mean. cheers. . Just a Guy; I understand, but respectfully disagree. If someone has a desire to kill folk, then he/she has lost their moral compass, but let's say they decide to kill, if guns were only available at or rather kept in gun clubs at ranges, then it would be more difficult for the average deranged person to easily get their hands on say an automatic rifle etc. Sadly for the wonderful USA the Genie cant be put back in the bottle.so tragically there will continue to more cases like this school shooting, and nothing but the return of our Master will consign such disasters to history, and be no more in out memory. Praise God. . Quiet Christian; like most of your posts, another well thought out argument; I have read a little about your Constitution, and the paragraphs regarding the right to bear arms etc. However, whilst I agree at that time it was a wise decision. But would you not agree if the framers of the Constitution were here today, or more particularly in the late 20th century, they would be strongly arguing to amend certain sections of the aforementioned Constitution? Sadly our Christian influence on society diminishes daily
Hugh, I too can understand your point of view as an outsider. The US was founded by many different groups but Lowland Scots made up a significant portion...so much so that the mark of presbyterianism on the representative democracy is unmistakable.
Attempting to protect the rights of citizens from abuses that had occurred earlier both in the Colonies but particularly in what is now the UK, the Framers of the Constitution wrote ten amendments to officially codify specific rights they felt were paramount to protecting the rights of the individual citizen. The right to keep and bear arms was one of those. The need came not only from our revolution but from previous and grievous acts against the populace. Consider what might have happened in Scotland had Claverhouse not been opposed as he was...an armed populace was seen as an important against despotism. Being ready to address these kinds of threats were important.
In a more common set of circumstances, growing up in rural America in which every house had a loaded gun, it keep polite society polite. We didn't know real crime.
This is a sad situation. There was a second shooting in a school in Texas yesterday. I think it all has to do with another story posted by SA regarding the current generation of young people being more likely than previous generations to consider themselves atheists or LBGT.
Kids have little these days they can count on. Moms and dads don't stay together (and maybe 40% are from unwed pregnancies to start with). They've been told that science is the answer but they are told we're destroying the earth partially through science, and science isn't living up to expectations. They've been taught that God and His precepts and laws are obsolete. Truth doesn't matter, only power. So what do they have to live for? Social justice? Greed? These kids need Jesus and the life He offers. Instead, at the end of their ropes, they kill themselves and each other instead.
Hugh from Scotland wrote... "From an outsider looking in, you can't help but think the "right to bear arms" must surely be the most abused portion of the USA constitution"
I can understand your veiw point being from outside of the US. I look at it like this. If a person has gone so far as to want to kill people, having anti-gun laws will only stop the innocent people from having them. Criminals don't mind breaking the law. Be it drugs, robbery, or getting guns.
Profound sadness, is all one can feel whenever yet another gun tragedy afflicts the USA... Scotland only on one occasion was afflicted thus, and as a consequence there was the wholesale ban on owning handguns. From an outsider looking in, you can't help but think the "right to bear arms" must surely be the most abused portion of the USA constitution
Yet another deadly result from the deadly video games. This kid has probably been "killing" people for years. Amounting to hundreds of "murders". The games are so realistic now, there is no big difference between real life and virtual life mentally. For him to go shoot was easy for his brain, if anything he killed less people then he would on his games. Very much a shame.
What psychTropes was he on? Did he get A's in Survival of Fittest Class? Pride posters in the school?
6 Therefore pride compasseth them about as a chain; violence covereth them as a garment.
12Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches. 13Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency. 14For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning. 15If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children. 16When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me; 17Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end. 18Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.