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Choice News FRIDAY, DEC 8, 2017  |  16 comments  |  2 commentaries
President Trump Points Americans to Jesus' Birth

In the wake of the holiday season, President Donald Trump has continued to deliver on his campaign pledge to say "Merry Christmas" again and reminded all Americans of the essential importance of Christmas.

During the lighting ceremony at the White House, President Trump spoke on the true meaning of the December 25 holiday, recounting the story of Jesus' birth.

"The Christmas Story begins 2,000 years ago with a mother, a father, their baby son, and the most extraordinary gift of all-the gift of God's love for all of humanity," he began.

"Whatever our beliefs, we know that the birth of Jesus Christ and the story of his life forever changed the course of human history," he continued. "Each and every year at Christmas time we recognize that the real spirit of Christmas is not what we have, it's about who we are - each one of us is a child of God." ...


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News Item12/13/17 12:19 PM
just a nobody  Protected NameFind all comments by just a nobody
I am not against anyone celebrating Christmas but you obviously do not know your history. Please read this:

http://theweek.com/articles/479313/when-americans-banned-christmas

terry wrote:
The pilgrims in America celebrated Christmas while others did not but they did not judge one another for whichever practice they chose.
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News Item12/9/17 10:45 PM
terry | oklahoma  Find all comments by terry
Trump is NOT evil but his theology is as lacking as most. Let us reconsider, though, that we are all children of God by His created order though not by new birth. I do realize this means they will go to hell but a child of the devil is according to doctrinal practice, not birth.
The pilgrims in America celebrated Christmas while others did not but they did not judge one another for whichever practice they chose.
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News Item12/9/17 11:51 AM
Lawrence Fine | Elysium Fields  Find all comments by Lawrence Fine
Another reason for the mainstream media to hate him, and newspaper columnists to write again on why President Trump is 'bad for nation.'
Some may have hoped that the media would have 'wised up' when the voting totals turned against their favorite. But that never happened, and instead, we had open protests by their 'brown-shirts' in DC during the Presidential Inauguration, and then later the creation of their own fascist brigades--anti-fa. Anyone who studies the history of Germany in the 1930s must be scratching their head, saying, 'haven't we been here before?'
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News Item12/9/17 12:07 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Thanks for the bump bro.

BTW - I just read a few of your latest responses and must say I am heartened to see your growth in the knowledge of God's word.

Lord bless.

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to complete the last citation from Spurgeon, he went on to say,

"There can be no reason why we should not, and it may be helpful that we should, now consider the birth of our Lord Jesus. We will do that voluntarily which we would refuse to do as a matter of obligation: we will do that simply for convenience sake which we should not think of doing because enjoined by authority or demanded by superstition.”

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News Item12/8/17 5:41 PM
Kev | US  Find all comments by Kev
Thanks bro.
Bump.
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News Item12/8/17 3:55 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
Kev wrote:
Hey there Bro Observer
Hey brother. I'm truly blessed thank you. Trust all's well with you and yours.

Lord bless.
...

to continue

"You are under no bondage whatever to regard the regulation. We owe no allegiance to the ecclesiastical powers which have made a decree on this matter, for we belong to an old-fashioned church which does not dare to make laws, but is content to obey them. At the same time the day is no worse than another, and if you choose to observe it, and observe it unto the Lord, I doubt not he will accept your devotion: while if you do not observe it, but unto the Lord observe it not, for fear of encouraging superstition and will-worship, I doubt not but what you shall be as accepted in the non-observance as you could have been in the observance of it. Still, as the thoughts of a great many Christian people will run at this time towards the birth of Christ, and as this cannot be wrong, I judged it meet to avail ourselves of the prevailing current, and float down the stream of thought. Our minds will run that way, because so many around us are following customs suggestive of it, therefore let us get what good we can out of the occasion. "

OOS

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News Item12/8/17 2:52 PM
Kev | US  Find all comments by Kev
Hey there Bro Observer nice to see you posting. Hope all is well over there.
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News Item12/8/17 2:45 PM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
"...But we believe they entered that protest so completely, that we are willing, as their descendants, to take the good accidentally conferred by the day, and leave its superstitions to the superstitious.”

On another occasion he said:

"There is no reason upon earth beyond that of ecclesiastical custom why the 25th of December should be regarded as the birthday of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ any more than any other day from the first of January to the last day of the year; and yet some persons regard Christmas with far deeper reverence than the Lord’s-day. You will often hear it asserted that “The Bible and the Bible alone is the religion of Protestants,” but it is not so. There are Protestants who have absorbed a great deal beside the Bible into their religion, and among other things they have accepted the authority of what they call “the Church,” and by that door all sorts of superstitions have entered. There is no authority whatever in the word of God for the keeping of Christmas at all, and no reason for keeping it just now except that the most superstitious section of Christendom has made a rule that December 25th shall be observed as the birthday of the Lord, and the church by law established in this land has agreed to follow in the same track."

OOS

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News Item12/8/17 2:00 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | pro life opening  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Observer wrote:
Spurgeon
“This is the season of the year when, whether we wish it or not, we are compelled to think of the birth of Christ. ...I do not see how consistent Protestants can account it in the least sacred. However, I wish there were ten or a dozen Christmas-days in the year; for there is work enough in the world, and a little more rest would not hurt labouring people. Christmas-day is really a boon to us; particularly as it enables us to assemble round the family hearth and meet our friends once more. Still, although we do not fall exactly in the track of other people, I see no harm in thinking of the incarnation and birth of the Lord Jesus. We do not wish to be classed with those
“Who with more care keep holiday
The wrong, than others the right way.”
how consistent Protestants
can
account it
"sacred"

If
As below Bible study show
1 Jesus is born on Tabernacles
Then
2 Jesus conceived around Dec 25

A- this fits with Spurgeon's desire to be irenic
B -gives a pro-life message to a baby killing world as the entrance of the Lord Jesus Christ is at point of Incarnation

Heb10:5b"but a body hast thou prepared me:"
Ps40:6
Jn1:
14a"And the Word was made flesh"

worth a day to study 1 Chron24
" every word"

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News Item12/8/17 11:32 AM
Observer  Find all comments by Observer
@ Adriel

This is what Spurgeon had to say:

“This is the season of the year when, whether we wish it or not, we are compelled to think of the birth of Christ. I hold it to be one of the greatest absurdities under heaven to think that there is any religion in keeping Christmas-day. There are no probabilities whatever that our Saviour Jesus Christ was born on that day, and the observance of it is purely of Popish origin; doubtless those who are Catholics have a right to hallow it, but I do not see how consistent Protestants can account it in the least sacred. However, I wish there were ten or a dozen Christmas-days in the year; for there is work enough in the world, and a little more rest would not hurt labouring people. Christmas-day is really a boon to us; particularly as it enables us to assemble round the family hearth and meet our friends once more. Still, although we do not fall exactly in the track of other people, I see no harm in thinking of the incarnation and birth of the Lord Jesus. We do not wish to be classed with those

“Who with more care keep holiday
The wrong, than others the right way.”

The old Puritans made a parade of work on Christmas-day, just to show that they protested against the observance of it. But we ...

OOS

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News Item12/8/17 10:39 AM
From nc  Find all comments by From nc
That is great he believes Muslim and Christian ar a "very very great religion"and pence just like another lose soul saying yes next to trump
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News Item12/8/17 9:31 AM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
The sad truth about Christmas is that it does more "missionary" work in western society than the churches do.

Satan ensures that it is primarily a celebration of mammon, covetousness and entertainment of sinners.

The only 'good' that it may do is as a reminder of communities that Christ incarnate was born and came with good news which some may seek for, when awakened to.

But regardless of its amusement and even offence to some it beholds the name of Christ Jesus to those who may be saved and those who may not. Election by God being the difference between the two.

There are some people in the communities who actually 'only' go to church at Christmas. Whether God uses that or not is of course up to Him. But then there are many people who attend church regularly and will still remain unsaved, such as Liberals, Roman Catholics, Anglicans, Arminians, and nominals, etc etc.

God alone saves.
Praise be to God.

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News Item12/8/17 6:58 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | hints from chronicles calendar  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Jesus was born in the Fall of the year? Could be.
reasoning from scriptures is

The “course of Abia” =one of the 24 divisions responsible for worship in the Temple. Zechariah was of the priesthood division of “Abia” or “Abijah”.

"The Interpreter’s Bible”, vol. 8, page 30:

“Priests among the Jews had long been divided into twenty-four ‘divisions’, each responsible for the conduct of temple worship for one week at semiannual intervals (Josephus Antiquities VII. 14. 7).”

Lk1:5a"There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: "

Luke, chapter 1:21-28
John was conceived after Zacharias served his semiannual interval in the temple.

Elizabeth was 6 months along with John when the angel appeared to Mary &told her she would have a son.
Thus John was 6 months older than Jesus.

Jesus was born either in the Spring or in Fall because there were shepherds in the fields at night keeping watch over their flocks, which is done mostly in the Spring during the season lambs are born&in the fall.
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Word Tabernacled among [email protected] of Tabernacles?Jn1:14

If so,
The Lord Jesus Christ would have been conceived around Dec 25

Jason Cooley

tinysa.com/sermon/1126172233550

1 Chron 24 study

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News Item12/8/17 6:27 AM
B McCausland  Find all comments by B McCausland
John UK wrote:
Now the "reason for the season" has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, more like entrapment of Protestants to get them back to Rome or some other pagan religion.
Yes, entrapped to pagan slants of hedonism, superficial pragmatism, inaccurate easy-believism about truth, compromise, and sincretism, but hardly leaning towards Christian virtue as biblically defined, which transcends, or goes beyond seasons, times, and man-made objectives.

Regretfully, the philosophy of easy-believism has permeated more theology aspects of our belief system, than the mere compartment of soteriology.

It only takes a slight pretext around a true fact as the birth of Christ for many to endorse the whole works of a festivity that endears questionable practice.

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News Item12/8/17 4:12 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
While I was waiting for my car to be serviced yesterday, there was a lady who was also waiting for her car. She had an American accent, and I got into convo with her. It turned out she was originally from Virginia, where apparently it can get very hot and very cold. Now she is living in Wales, and we had a great time chatting and laughing together. Every day she tunes in to an internet radio station in the US which plays jazz all day long.

What was I going to say?

Oh yes, she hates Donald Trump. I ventured that he is an evil man, and she said, "Oh yes!"

Her car arrived, and she thanked me for the convo. I said, "God bless you." And she said, "And God bless you too."

Now the "reason for the season" has nothing to do with Jesus Christ, more like entrapment of Protestants to get them back to Rome or some other pagan religion.

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News Item12/8/17 12:23 AM
Dr. Tim | Southern U.S.  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
The president should can his speechwriter. Some of us are children of God, and others are children of Satan--John 8:44.
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