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FRONT PAGE  |  8/25/2019
THURSDAY, NOV 16, 2017  |  11 comments  |  1 commentary
Robert Mugabe has been 'neutralised': Zimbabwe's military take control
Robert Mugabe has been 'neutralised', according to a prominent campaigner in Zimbabwe hours after a military take over that has the hallmarks of a coup.

The 93-year-old leader who has been in charge for 37 years remains in detention as army leaders say they are trying to remove 'criminals' surrounding the president. The move appears to be an attempt to replace the entrenched figure with his deputy, Emmerson Mnangagwa, who was sacked last week and prevent Mugabe's wife, Grace, from taking power. ...


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News Item11/19/17 8:14 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
BBC wrote:
Zanu-PF has appointed ex-vice-president Emmerson Mnangagwa, who had been fired by Mr Mugabe two weeks ago.

The sacking of Mr Mnangagwa had prompted an extraordinary chain of events as the military intervened to block Mr Mugabe, 93, from installing his wife, Grace, in his place.

The first lady has been expelled from the party altogether.

--[URL=http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-42043370]]]http://tinyurl.com/yc2kh9bw (Zimbabwe's ruling party sacks Robert Mugabe as leader)[/URL]

Unfortunately, the ruling party is in many respects a Communist Party, so there isn't much hope for a democracy yet anyway. Mugabe's party is still intact.

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News Item11/17/17 3:21 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
ABC News Australia wrote:
Key points:

President Robert Mugabe insists he is still in charge
A senior member of his party told Reuters the party wanted him gone and he faces "impeachment on Tuesday"
In a statement broadcast on national TV the military said it was "engaging" with Mr Mugabe

--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/ybfmbxsg]]]http://tinyurl.com/ybfmbxsg (Zimbabwe: President Robert Mugabe makes first appearance since military takeover)[/URL]

They're probably hoping he will die of old age at any time - - they seem to forget that only the good die young.

Chris GP, I think you are quite correct -- unfortunately.

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News Item11/17/17 2:34 AM
Chris G P from England | England  Find all comments by Chris G P from England
Basically the struggle was in the end between the former Vice-President, whom Mugabe sacked, and Mugabe's wife, Grace Mugabe.

Both characters sound most unsavoury, and either sounds very much as if they would continue the disastrous policies of Robert Mugabe himself.

In the end, it looks as if the Vice-President will win, because he has the support of the military, and Grace Mugabe, unlike Sally Mugabe, who was Robert Mugabe's first very popular wife, is most unpopular with the ruling ZANU-PF party, as with many of the people.

My feeling is that the army will keep Robert Mugabe in a kind of honourable house arrest for the rest of his life, give him a state funeral at the end of it, the Vice President will take over, and then Grace Mugabe, unless she can escape, will be quietly done away with, or possibly put on trial.

I am not sure that things will change too much for the better in Zimbabwe.

At the end of the day, God is sovereign and He may order things totally differently!!!

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News Item11/16/17 3:21 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
BBC wrote:
hotos in the Zimbabwe Herald showed Mr Mugabe meeting army chief Gen Constantino Chiwenga and the two South African envoys from the Southern African Development Community (Sadc) at State House in Harare.

Alongside them was Father Fidelis Mukonori, a Roman Catholic priest known to Mr Mugabe for years who has been brought in to mediate.

Sources close to the talks say Mr Mugabe is refusing to stand down voluntarily before next year's planned elections.

--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/y78wg4w4]]]http://tinyurl.com/y78wg4w4 (Zimbabwe latest: Mugabe in crunch talks over his future)[/URL]

For your entertainment, [URL=http://tinyurl.com/y9av8se3]]]http://tinyurl.com/y9av8se3 (7 Facts About ‚ÄėDevout Catholic‚Äô Robert Mugabe)[/URL]

I have no disagreement what you say quiet Christian‚Ěó Note call Dr. Rugh has to say about leaders such as Nebuchadnezzar in [URL=http://www.biblebb.com/files/CAESAR.HTM]]]http://tinyurl.com/zwg8o3o (Rendering To Caesar---A Biblical Perspective On Government)[/URL]--"...Nowhere in the Bible is God‚Äôs sovereignty in selecting leaders more evident than with King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon."

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News Item11/16/17 2:49 PM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Not much to argue with you quiet Christian on politics.
-[URL=http://tinyurl.com/habzqpz]]]http://tinyurl.com/habzqpz (The Gospel and Politics)[/URL]
God picks of political leaders including and what and our eyes are the bad ones.
Every leader who rises (and falls) is risen or fallen by the Lord, Jim. All of them, from the worst to the best, fit into His sovereign will. Mugabe is just one more. Of course, this is easy for us to say from the USA. Those who suffered directly or indirectly probably have a different, more passionate expression.

I would encourage you to read up on the Crusades, though. Dr. MacArthur's snippet did not give anywhere near the full story, and one could well argue that the majority of the enterprise was an utter failure by anyone standards within the West. But even this was done under the sovereignty of our Lord. Let us not forget what He has done and brought us through as we look to what He will bring to pass next. Yes, there will likely be more disasters we Christians cause unless Jesus returns imminently. But that only shows that even in our best efforts, we need Jesus.

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News Item11/16/17 12:00 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
Mugabe destroyed the country of Zimbabwe/Rhodesia but this was obviously with the help of the people who followed this dictator. Ignorance took care of the rest and the country became a devastated ruin.
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News Item11/16/17 9:51 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Not much to argue with you quiet Christian on politics.
John MacArthur wrote:
...The Crusades during the Middle Ages were waged for the purpose of regaining Christian control of the Holy Lands. Few believers today would argue that those efforts were fruitful. Even when the crusaders enjoyed military success, the church grew spiritually weaker and more worldly....

"The Old Testament may be studied. . .as an instructor in social righteousness. It exhibits the moral government of God as attested in his dealings with nations rather than with individuals; and it was their consciousness of the action and presence of God in history that made the prophets preachers, not merely to their countrymen, but to the world at large. . . .There is indeed significance in the fact that in spite of their ardent zeal for social reform they did not as a rule take part in political life or demand political reforms. They desired. . .not better institutions but better men." ---[British theologian Robert L. Ottley ]

-[URL=http://tinyurl.com/habzqpz]]]http://tinyurl.com/habzqpz (The Gospel and Politics)[/URL]

God picks of political leaders including and what and our eyes are the bad ones.

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News Item11/16/17 8:03 AM
Rnel | South africa  Find all comments by Rnel
Very true Dave.
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News Item11/16/17 7:45 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Neither will those in Christ get what we deserve, Jim. Hopefully something or someone better replaces Mugabe. Will there be a Hezekiah or just another in the series of bad kings from the northern kingdom? Thankfully, these details are well within the sovereignty of the True and Living God. May He call all those involved to Himself.
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News Item11/16/17 1:38 AM
Dave | Oz  Find all comments by Dave
30 odd years to late
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News Item11/16/17 1:18 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Mugabe is like any other vicious dictator. It's a pity that he won't get what he deserves.
Andrew Harding-BBC wrote:
No-one is exactly celebrating here - too much remains unknown. But shops and businesses are working and Zimbabwe is quietly adapting to the stunning fact that President Robert Mugabe is still under house arrest, and that no-one is coming to rescue him.

Instead, those now in control here - soldiers and civilians - are trying to convince the world that there wasn't really a military coup at all. More of a forceful reshuffle.

But to win that argument, they need Mr Mugabe to play along.

So the key question now is whether the 93-year-old can be persuaded to make some sort of statement, legitimising the upheavals of the past two days, in return for, what? A peaceful retirement, the safety of his wife and family? Zimbabwe's drama is still unfolding.

--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/y78wg4w4]]]http://tinyurl.com/y78wg4w4 (Will President Mugabe play along?)[/URL]
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