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FRONT PAGE  |  10/18/2019
SUNDAY, OCT 15, 2017  |  6 comments
Congress' prayer tradition upheld by federal judge
The constitutionality of legislative prayer gained reaffirmation Wednesday (Oct. 11) when a federal court dismissed an atheist's challenge of the U.S. House of Representatives' right to bar him from delivering an invocation.

Federal Judge Rosemary Collyer of the District of Columbia said U.S. Supreme Court precedent undergirds the long tradition of prayer to open congressional sessions and the House's rules in carrying out the practice. Collyer's support for legislative prayer in Congress came three months after a federal appeals court invalidated the practice in a North Carolina county.

Speaker of the House Paul Ryan -- as well as a Southern Baptist/evangelical prayer leader -- expressed gratitude for the decision. ...


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John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Good.
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News Item10/15/17 9:33 AM
ladybug  Contact via emailFind all comments by ladybug
This sermon, 'Government vs. God', by WJ Mencarow, is good-http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=1906204947
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News Item10/15/17 8:25 AM
Ignominius Emirakan | prayer to repent  Find all comments by Ignominius Emirakan
-- Marsh v. Chambers, a 1983 Supreme Court ruling, "did not violate the Establishment Clause even though a single clergyman had offered the prayers [in the Nebraska legislature] for many years and they were all in the Judeo-Christian tradition," Collyer wrote.

-- Town of Greece v. Galloway, a 2014 case regarding prayer at New York town council meetings, "supported the conclusion that legislative invocations are compatible with the Establishment Clause," she said. "Town of Greece did not alter the permissibility of legislative prayers or hold that Congress must permit nonsectarian or nontheist statements by chaplains."

The Continental Congress initiated the tradition of federal legislative prayer in 1774, Collyer wrote. House rules require a prayer, which is consistent with the Establishment Clause, she said. Either the House chaplain or a guest chaplain opens the chamber's session each day in prayer
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1Tim2:"I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men;
2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty.
3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 a Who will have all men to be saved,.."

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News Item10/15/17 7:24 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
[URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/amr/camer.htm]]]http://tinyurl.com/yq56fn (Notes on "Christian" America--(A Myth That Won't Die))[/URL], and [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/Psychology/mashist.htm]]]http://tinyurl.com/a643m (American Masonic History--What Are America's True Roots?)[/URL]

Since America is a Masonic Republic, as noted above no doubt Congress should be like a masonic meeting and open with a prayer, e.g.,

A Freemason's Compendium wrote:
Most holy and glorious Lord God, the Great Architect of the Universe, the giver of all good gifts and graces. Thou hast promised that, "where two or three are gathered together in thy name, thou wilt be in their midst and bless them." In they name we have assembled, and in thy name we desire to proceed in all our doings. Grant that the sublime principles of Freemasonry may so subdue every discordant passion within us - so harmonize and enrich our hearts with thine own Love and goodness - that the Lodge at this time may humbly reflect that order and beauty which reign forever before thy throne. Amen
--[URL=http://masonic.wikidot.com/prayer-at-opening ]]]Response by the brethren--Prayer at Opening[/URL]
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News Item10/15/17 4:05 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
You can listen on Sermon Audio, [URL=http://tinysa.com/297366]]]http://tinysa.com/297366 (Praying Without Hypocrisy, Part A )[/URL] and [URL=http://tinysa.com/297368]]]http://tinysa.com/297368 (Praying Without Hypocrisy, Part B)[/URL]
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News Item10/15/17 3:04 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John MacArthur wrote:
... Prayer became for most of the people a useless routine with meaning nowhere beyond some kind of an hourly function.

The Muhammidins have custom that's very much the same and there's a story that William Barclay tells about a Muhammidin who was pursuing an enemy and he was...he drew his knife out to kill his enemy and then the call to prayer came out of the minaret right when he was going to stab his enemy, he stopped, he unrolled his prayer cloth, and they do that. They have a prayer rug, a prayer mat. He knelt down and prayed through his prayer as fast as he could and then rose up and went on with killing his enemy. Now that's a fairly good illustration of the fact that prayer had absolutely no effect on anything. It was strictly a routine.

--[URL=https://tinyurl.com/ybyynqgy]]]https://tinyurl.com/ybyynqgy (Praying Without Hypocrisy)[/URL]

I have a feeling that Congressional prayer is also a matter of routine for most of the members.

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