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FRONT PAGE  |  11/23/2017
WEDNESDAY, SEP 27, 2017  |  25 comments
National Association of Evangelicals opposes Republican attempts to repeal Obamacare
The National Association of Evangelicals (NAE), the main US umbrella group for 45,000 churches and millions of individuals, has surprisingly come out against Republican attempts to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act (ACA), known as 'Obamacare'.

According to the Think Progress website, a list of statements distributed yesterday by the faith-based anti-hunger group Bread for the World showed that the NAE spoke out against the latest effort to repeal the initiative.

'Despite its impressive achievements, our health care system often fails to deliver affordable, life-saving help to many of our citizens,' the NAE president Leith Anderson said in a statement. 'Reforms are needed, but they should be carefully studied and not rushed through Congress without expert analysis and thorough debate on the inevitable trade-offs inherent in any reform. Above all, any policy and funding changes should be ...


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News Item9/28/17 6:59 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hope you're feeling better, Connor. Just read this.
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News Item9/28/17 12:45 AM
Connor7  Find all comments by Connor7
Thanks Penned.
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News Item9/27/17 11:38 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
'The lobbying group for seniors accused House Republican leaders of crafting legislation that increases insurance premiums for consumers, while giving a “sweetheart deal” to “big drug companies and special interests.”'
.
Here is who got the "sweetheart deal"

Been down this road before, from one of Jim's favorite magazines

"As you know if you’ve been reading this blog, Obamacare cuts $716 billion from Medicare in order to pay for its $1.9 trillion expansion of coverage to low-income Americans. It’s one of the reasons why seniors are more opposed to the new health law than any other age group. So why is it that the group that purports to speak for seniors, the American Association of Retired Persons, so strongly supports a law that most seniors oppose? According to an explosive new report from Sen. Jim DeMint (R., S.C.), it’s because those very same Medicare cuts will give the AARP a windfall of $1 billion in insurance profits, and preserve another $1.8 billion that AARP already generates from its business interests."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2012/09/22/the-aarps-2-8-billion-reasons-for-supporting-obamacares-cuts-to-medicare/#6a9a13585935

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News Item9/27/17 10:43 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Connor7 wrote:
Hey y'all, please pray for me as I just had a seizure about 20min ago, so I'm not feeling that well., Thanks y'all.
praying for ya...
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News Item9/27/17 10:22 PM
Connor7  Find all comments by Connor7
Oh, and if someone on here has emailed me semi recently, please forgive me if I haven't responded, I'm having e-mail issues. Romans 8:28
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News Item9/27/17 10:21 PM
Connor7  Find all comments by Connor7
Hey y'all, please pray for me as I just had a seizure about 20min ago, so I'm not feeling that well., Thanks y'all.
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News Item9/27/17 7:41 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | Ditto  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Mike wrote:
I wonder why they didn't go on the warpath when rates went up and people lost coverage under Obamacare? But then AARP relies on deceit and forgetfulness to
maintain memberships. Like all good democrat organizations.
Yup
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News Item9/27/17 6:55 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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I belong to AARP, that should answer his question.
In fact, I don't think the AARP is giving the GOP a hard enough time? The best one can see was this one, http://tinyurl.com/j3xv3ad (AARP is going on the warpath against the Republican proposal to repeal and replace ObamaCare.)---'AARP is going on the warpath against the Republican proposal to repeal and replace ObamaCare.
'The lobbying group for seniors accused House Republican leaders of crafting legislation that increases insurance premiums for consumers, while giving a “sweetheart deal” to “big drug companies and special interests.”'
---
1. Don't get sick!
2. If you do get sick -- die quickly
I wonder why they didn't go on the warpath when rates went up and people lost coverage under Obamacare? But then AARP relies on deceit and forgetfulness to
maintain memberships. Like all good democrat organizations. :thumbs down:
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News Item9/27/17 3:29 PM
Dr. Tim | Southern U.S.  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Jim, if I belonged to an organization that endorses gay marriage (AARP), I don't think I'd crow about it on a Christian site.
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News Item9/27/17 3:23 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
KDinDE wrote:
When did you became a Republican? Also, what convinced you to change your mind...?
I'm just curious because on 2/13/08 at 9:37AM
you stated on a SA topic entitled:
McCain Thanks Evangelicals for Support
"As a lifelong Democrat if Obama gets the Democratic nomination for president and McCain gets the Republican nomination for president then I will be forced for the first time to support the Republican nominee for president because I would rather have a white Republican in the White House over a Black Democrat."
I became a registered Republican in 2008 because I was voting straight Republican for years anyway even though I was a registered Democrat. So I decided it was time to become a registered Republican.
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News Item9/27/17 3:16 PM
KDinDE | Mid-Atlantic  Find all comments by KDinDE
John Yurich USA wrote:
As a conservative Republican I am against the Republican health care plan that permits health insurance companies to deny health care coverage to individuals with pre existing conditions.
When did you became a Republican? Also, what convinced you to change your mind...?

I'm just curious because on 2/13/08 at 9:37AM
you stated on a SA topic entitled:
McCain Thanks Evangelicals for Support

"As a lifelong Democrat if Obama gets the Democratic nomination for president and McCain gets the Republican nomination for president then I will be forced for the first time to support the Republican nominee for president because I would rather have a white Republican in the White House over a Black Democrat."

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News Item9/27/17 2:27 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Oh, you mean like Dr. Tim's? who apparently has some unusual hours himself, he can see I can respond at anytime of the day --or night, and I belong to AARP, that should answer his question.

In fact, I don't think the AARP is giving the GOP a hard enough time? The best one can see was this one, http://tinyurl.com/j3xv3ad (AARP is going on the warpath against the Republican proposal to repeal and replace ObamaCare.)---'AARP is going on the warpath against the Republican proposal to repeal and replace ObamaCare.

'The lobbying group for seniors accused House Republican leaders of crafting legislation that increases insurance premiums for consumers, while giving a “sweetheart deal” to “big drug companies and special interests.”'

I guess they are worth my membership fee.

No one should have to depend on the GOP healthcare plans which have all boil down to:

1. Don't get sick!
2. If you do get sick -- die quickly

Only countries that have incredibly ignorant and/or selfish leaders wouldn't recognize http://tinyurl.com/gtbv58h (A Conservative Case for the Welfare State) is an excellent idea.

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News Item9/27/17 1:10 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
ladybug wrote:
One wonders if Jim L even bothers to read the responses given to him, like the one from bro. US. It would appear not, for JL is so focused on pushing the globalization plan of health care, which is an anti-christ agenda, that he cannot see the forest for the trees.
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No, Jim lives in the past, the glory days of his Caesar, the former president. Libs don't discuss, they move on to the next sidetrack. Have you noticed he doesn't post his infamous "Render to Caesar" link since Trump is now pres? I wonder why?
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News Item9/27/17 12:50 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
One wonders if Jim L even bothers to read the responses given to him, like the one from bro. US. It would appear not, for JL is so focused on pushing the globalization plan of health care, which is an anti-christ agenda, that he cannot see the forest for the trees. There are tares among the wheat on these threads and will be until Christ returns. The elect of God aren't buying what JL is selling. Time is so short, instead of contemplating the brevity of earthly life, most spend what little time they have on the here and now, being consumed by politics and government control is evil[then trying to convince everyone that isn't what they are doing], for both politics and the government are evil. May God have mercy.
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News Item9/27/17 12:42 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Scot Lehigh wrote:
To see why, consider how we got where we are today. Twelve years ago, the Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts Foundation hired the Urban Institute, a center-left think tank, to figure out the best way to bring universal health coverage to Massachusetts. To the surprise of many, the think tank spoke highly of an idea popularized by the conservative Heritage Foundation: a requirement that individuals carry health insurance.

Republican Mitt Romney then seized upon the individual mandate, which had been the core of a previous national GOP proposal, and brought the left-leaning legislature around. And voila: Romneycare was born. Although some conservatives and libertarians objected, prominent Republican thought leaders had kind words for Romney’s policy experiment.

Then something unexpected happened. Barack Obama was elected president — and adopted Romneycare as his health care model. Suddenly the GOP had Romneycare nationally, but associated with a president of the opposite party.

---https://tinyurl.com/ya34bmvu (The GOP doesn’t need a new health care plan. They just need to rebrand Obamacare)

Good John!

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News Item9/27/17 11:55 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
As a conservative Republican I am against the Republican health care plan that permits health insurance companies to deny health care coverage to individuals with pre existing conditions.
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News Item9/27/17 11:42 AM
Dr. Tim | Southern U.S.  Find all comments by Dr. Tim
Jim Lincoln, since you are so insistent that Uncle Sam should buy everything for everybody, I must ask you a question: Do you work, or do you sit on your duff like countless other "liberals" (meaning, of course, people who are liberal with everyone's money but their own) and let people who are NOT lazy bums support you?
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News Item9/27/17 11:08 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Oops 😱
(If ObamaCare Is So Bad, How Does RomneyCare Survive?).
If your January 2012 article is what most in Massachusetts think today, which is questionable, and being Massachusetts, we would have to say it's a matter of socialists liking socialism, Jim. Thought you knew that. But re-read US's post for your edification. And your quote from Bernie the Socialist is noted.
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News Item9/27/17 10:08 AM
penny  Find all comments by penny
Br. US, good find.

Jim Lincoln wrote:
The NAE finally got something right.
and here we see that silencing Christians is an agenda..... not a theological command.
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News Item9/27/17 9:58 AM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Jim Lincoln wrote:
The NAE finally got something right.
I thought you were against "Christian activism"

Republicans are not going to repeal Obamacare and Romneycare is a dismal failure as the first link (seeing you love links) points out, due to higher cost, lack of access, and fewer providers.

http://www.lifezette.com/healthzette/why-romneycares-failure-haunts-us-still/

please note my links are far more up to date than your outdated article from Forbes

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/romneycare-failure-public-disappointment-bode-ill-for-obamacare

It isn't surviving,

Mass. ditches RomneyCare exchange

RomneyCare’s pioneering health insurance exchange is headed for the scrap heap.

Bay State officials are taking steps this week to junk central parts of their dysfunctional health insurance exchange — the model for President Barack Obama’s health care law — and merge with the federal enrollment site HealthCare.gov

http://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/massachusetts-romneycare-health-care-exchange-106362

Even the WSJ states in an article with the title, The Failure of RomneyCare

The former Massachusetts governor enacted something very similar to the Obama health plan. It isn't working well.

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