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FRONT PAGE  |  2/19/2018
FRIDAY, SEP 1, 2017  |  58 comments  |  1 commentary
500 Years After Reformation, Many Protestants Closer to Catholics than Martin Luther

In 1517, Martin Luther staked his soul on two revolutionary ideas: sola fide, that salvation is dependent on faith alone; and sola scriptura, that Scripture is the only ultimate authority for Christian belief and practice and that it does not need oversight from church leadership or tradition to be read and understood.

The 95 theses Luther nailed to the door at Wittenberg served as the catalyst for one of the world’s largest religious splits, as thousands broke off from the Roman Catholic Church. His legacy, 500 years later, is 560 million Protestants across the globe, making up more than a third of the world’s Christians.

But many of them don’t actually agree with him.

Today, half of American Protestants say that both good deeds and faith in God are needed to get into heaven (52%); the same number believe that in addition to the Bible, Christians need guidance from church teachings and ...


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News Item9/4/17 12:01 PM
pennned  Find all comments by pennned
I wonder what the reformers would've said about the Sanhedrin banning Messianic Jews from marrying?

http://conservativeangle.com/sanhedrin-bans-all-messianic-jewish-marriages-in-israel/

“The goal of the the Sanhedrin is to intimidate the Messianic believers into leaving Israel, deny their faith in Yeshua, and to prevent new believers from making Aliyah (moving) to Israel. … they want all believers out of Israel. Just as in the days of Yeshua.”

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News Item9/4/17 11:14 AM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
10 Reformers, who changed the World, as no King but Christ was lifted up as a Royal Banner, in not being ashamed of the Gospel amen.

My goose is cooked!" (Hus is the Bohemian word for goose). "But 100 years from now a swan will arise, whose voice you will n't be able to silence."

http://www.reformationsa.org/index.php/reformation/379-10-reformers-who-changed-the-world

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News Item9/4/17 11:06 AM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
Quality books here, lots of good Reformed material to read amen.

http://www.heritagebooks.org/

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News Item9/4/17 1:59 AM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
Yeah Connor I did my study through pacific Bible college, which he was head of.
He's a good friend of the family and has grouse testimony, well as we all do if it's from on high.
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News Item9/3/17 11:23 PM
Connor7  Contact via emailFind all comments by Connor7
Dave, I'll put that on my books to read, I think I checked out his ministry website, I'm like 99.9 percent sure I've read it.
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News Item9/3/17 11:18 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
God bless
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News Item9/3/17 9:11 PM
ladybug  Contact via emailFind all comments by ladybug
Thanks for the recommendation Dave, I will check into it
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News Item9/3/17 4:59 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
I'm not peddling for sales for an author.
Ladybug, taministries/Australia, Terry Arnold, ex Catholic priest has a wonderful read "to Catholics whom I love" Elder brother Frank has checked out his website and I'm sure he'll vouch that it's a sound ministry
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News Item9/3/17 10:35 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | Burden falls at cross  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
ladybug wrote:
Andrew Dunn
Thx! Reminds me of Pilgrim in Bunyan-
"particularly affected by such texts as the following: Jesus said: “They that are whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.” “Aye,” says he, “I understand this. If we had not been sinners we should not have needed a Savior.” Again, “I am not come,” said Jesus “to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.” “O how comfortable! I am a sinner; He came to call me among others.” Again, “God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believ- eth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life” (Joh 3:16). “Yes,” cried Andrew, in a transport of admiration, “this is love indeed! that God should send His Son upon such an errand.” But, recollecting himself, “Alas!” cried he, “what reason have I to be delighted with this news? How do I know that I have anything to do with it?” Such passages as the following used to wound him to the very soul: “The wicked shall go into everlasting punishment” (Matt. 25:46). “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?” (1Co 6:9). “God will render unto every man according to his deeds. Tribulation and anguish upon every soul of man that doeth evil” (Rom 2:6, 9)
such passages a "burden"
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News Item9/3/17 10:21 AM
ladybug  Contact via emailFind all comments by ladybug
I posted this before, it is worth a second post.
This is the story of the conversion of Andrew Dunn, an Irish Roman Catholic God called out of darkness and into His marvelous light - http://www.chapellibrary.org/files/3713/7643/2880/adai.pdf
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News Item9/3/17 10:19 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | Thy Bell jar canned  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Reformation test of the 1st fundamental Bible requirement: faithfulness to the inspired Word.
Apostate age versions "Fail in this, they also fail the second test: clarity - they do not clearly give the reader the very Word of God. They either corrupt or hide important doctrines of Holy Scripture: creation; the Trinity; the Deity of Jesus; total depravity; predestination; and others. "
https://www.prca.org/pamphlets/pamphlet_10.html

Martin Luther is quoted as writing that translating is hard work. "Translating is certainly not everybody's business, as the mad saints imagine. It requires a genuinely pious, faithful, diligent, God-fearing, experienced, practiced heart. Therefore I hold that a false Christian or a sectarian spirit is unable to give a faithful translation." W30 II, 640-E65, 115-SL19, 978)

Engelsma quotes Luther on the cover of Modern Versions pamphlet

Westminster Confession of Faith 1646 (Article One, Paragraph Eight)

The Old Testament in Hebrew (which was the native language of the people of God of old), and the New Testament in Greek (which, at the time of the writing of it was most generally known to the nations), being immediately inspired by God, and, by His singular care and providence, kept pure in all ages, are therefore authentic; "

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News Item9/3/17 7:52 AM
Waray | Tacloban  Find all comments by Waray
These 52%" "protestant" must be born again, they don't know what the Gospel is, my guess their gospel is the social gospel made in hell.
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News Item9/2/17 6:27 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | Alethia  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Christopher000 wrote:
By the way, I should mention that I stick with the King James as well.
My faves:

tinysa.com/sermon/63014203365
For Bible issue intro-includes an interview of James White
On Authorized Bible vs others
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#1 choice for me on this site?

tinysa.com/sermon/1021131136567
Perfection and Preservation

Dr Cairn's 5 part series

tinysa.com/sermon/10211311314910
For Dr Cairn's view of translation

Thorough cleansing.

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Pastor Cooley

tinysa.com/sermon/731402100
Transgendered Bibles

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Pastor Joey Faust

http://media.SermonAudio.com/articles/ki-1510231859-1.PDF

Early Colonist's Bible- what was it?
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As James White speaks of "conspiracy theories"

tinysa.com/sermon/11611843213

Pastor Faust gives occult conspiracy against the authorized Bible.
--
tinysa.com/sermon/421132035495
And he is quite certain of it-
Joey Faust's investigations are similar to my own.
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And Pastor Hoggard's take is interesting also.

Omitted verses

tinysa.com/sermon/512171052261

Hoggard's recent seminar on the issue was good.

I got saved at a time when Dean Burgon's books were widely available.

http://www.deanburgonsociety.org

Now one can find his perspective in bite sized doses

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News Item9/2/17 5:44 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
By the way, I should mention that I stick with the King James as well.
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News Item9/2/17 4:42 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
KJV is the Bible for me.
What do you say to a man who's only read part of the gospel of John, from an esv. or Niv. And is shown by fruit to be one of the flock.
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News Item9/2/17 4:05 PM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
Some really good articles on Reformation information, to encourage the Saints to get into the Word. & proclaim why their is no King but Christ alone amen.

http://www.reformationsa.org/index.php/catkeylinks

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News Item9/2/17 3:56 PM
Connor7  Contact via emailFind all comments by Connor7
Thank you another Michael, please check out Dr. Michael Brown's thoughts on the "King James only Controversy" www.askdrbrown.com
And James White debate with Jack Moorman, Gail Riplinger, Dave Hunt, Steven Anderson, etc.
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News Item9/2/17 3:35 PM
PaulB | Canada  Contact via emailFind all comments by PaulB
Another Michael wrote:
Thank You, Christopher000
Your post encourages me to keep learning and growing and to be thankful to our Savior for the work He has begun in me and you and will perfect in us.
Unrelated to the topic here but not to growing up in Christ. I met a man with one leg and one high tech artificial one; I believe you would have liked meeting too. I felt drawn to him to speak with him. Talk about being honored and humbled; I asked him who he was, and about his leg, he told me he was a pastor from Nigeria and while he was preaching one day Boko Haram set off a bomb that kill 200 people and took his leg.
Christopher000, it is so humbling to meet a man who knows personally the cost of following Jesus and continues to love Him and to genuinely love people with no bitterness or self-pity.
I have much learning and growing to do,
and am thankful I can love brothers like you.
God's best to you.
Beautiful comments brothers. May God be glorified.
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News Item9/2/17 3:13 PM
Another Michael | Among the Outcasts  Find all comments by Another Michael
Christopher000 wrote:
Another Michael, just felt the need to butt in to make a quick comment on how
Thank You, Christopher000
Your post encourages me to keep learning and growing and to be thankful to our Savior for the work He has begun in me and you and will perfect in us.

Unrelated to the topic here but not to growing up in Christ. I met a man with one leg and one high tech artificial one; I believe you would have liked meeting too. I felt drawn to him to speak with him. Talk about being honored and humbled; I asked him who he was, and about his leg, he told me he was a pastor from Nigeria and while he was preaching one day Boko Haram set off a bomb that kill 200 people and took his leg.

Christopher000, it is so humbling to meet a man who knows personally the cost of following Jesus and continues to love Him and to genuinely love people with no bitterness or self-pity.

I have much learning and growing to do,
and am thankful I can love brothers like you.

God's best to you.

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News Item9/2/17 2:23 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Another Michael, just felt the need to butt in to make a quick comment on how I really like the way that you're handling the conversation. I hope that doesn't sound patronizing or condescending, but not many can discuss certain topics, with this being one of them, without becoming defensive fairly quickly. Everyone's being civil, but sometimes that doesn't matter, and I wish everything could be discussed in such friendly, thought provoking, and fact-filled ways where all can take something positive away.
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