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Choice News THURSDAY, AUG 24, 2017  |  13 comments  |  4 commentaries
Pastor Offers 10 Rebuttals to Christians Who Defend Watching Sex-Heavy 'Game of Thrones'

Pastor Kevin DeYoung of Christ Covenant Church in Matthews, North Carolina, is challenging Christians who try to defend their decision to watch HBO's "Game of Thrones," saying that he has not seen a single compelling argument for Christians viewing graphic sex scenes.

"Does anyone actually think the apostle Paul (or any other apostle, or Jesus for that matter) would have been cool with the sensuality prevalent in 'Game of Thrones' (and so much of our entertainment)? We are not talking about marble statues or a Holocaust documentary or a physician examining a patient. We are talking about two naked people doing in front of us what naked people do together," he wrote in a post on The Gospel Coalition on Tuesday.

DeYoung was following up on a previous blog ("I Don't Understand Christians Watching Game of Thrones") he wrote which drew a plethora of comments and criticisms. He decided to list 10 ...

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News Item8/25/17 6:18 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | Inigo Montoya freestyle  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Why are you not wrote:
The Holy Scriptures has many writers but only one Author
"Holy Scriptures has many writers but only one Author"

Plagiarized from
A Parallel Guide to the Scriptures: It Is Written by
The Scribe -MD Cburnett -
2011 -
Plagiarized from
The Way to Pentecost - Page 12 -by
Samuel Chadwick - 2007
Plagiarized from-
Bible Society Records
Address before the
Virginia Bible Society
Rev T.L.Cuyler D.D. LL.D.
Plagiarized from
The people's Bible, discourses upon holy Scripture. 25 vols.
By Joseph Parker
Tsk- -
I feel a case of da vapors descendin' 'pon me.

You Keep Using That Word,
I Do Not Think It Means What You Think It Means

I just made up that last phrase
so send me all the royalties for it.
Maybe in Linoln pennies?

Or better yet- build a statue with me
mounted on my pet hummingbird Traveler -
to replace the gaps left by peaceful protesters.

Here- I'll pose with a generally calm gaze.

Funny that "A comedy of Errors"
By The Bard
Has Bill's name on it
And not Plautus
Funny it isn't titled Menaechmi

Comedy of errors multiplied

Someone right these outrages!


News Item8/25/17 7:52 AM
Why are you not  Find all comments by Why are you not
The Holy Scriptures has many writers but only one Author

News Item8/25/17 6:23 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | Princess Bride  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Why are you not wrote:
Look-as I said- if u r too
-1- lazy
-2- dumb
To "read the Article"What a concept!
Then griping about ASSUmption that a list has no reference to the article is your own foolishness.
If you still r upset
So sue me
Oh? Can't? Almost as tho an anonymous cite of a link
( quoted below as u seem to be slow"
Does 1st kings plagiarize from chronicles?
Or is Mark plagiarizing from Luke
Or vice versa

Or have u any concept of how many of Shakespeare's plays are
As you like it- ignorance is bliss

I did plagiarize Piper's Error on Romans 14:32 - and apologize for that.
"And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites:"Dt17:15
--accurate copy is good
Corruption with his name on would be bad
Such as if he charged money to sell it with his name on
"So and so study bible ESVile version by Doctor blah"
-worth contention-

pastor derivatively listing from verses?plagiary?

Or Shakespeare changing Gamelyn?
A gamey stench for a wretch would make me

" I do not think that word means what you think it means"


News Item8/24/17 10:03 PM
Why are you not  Find all comments by Why are you not
To Ignominious Emirakan

Plagiarism - the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own

You don't think your moniker is anonymous?

When responding to quiet Christian who used the words, "your list" and "not sure what you mean", you didn't respond,"sorry forgot to reference this but is from John Piper". Instead you replied, "as I noted"

When confronted with the fact that you did not acknowledge the author of your 12 points, you said, "not exactly the same ". Yet the questions and all but 2 of references are word for word from John Piper. You only left out the explanatory notes as it would not fit in 1300 characters

They are great questions and worth sharing, but not worth violating the 8th commandment.

Your attitude of indifference and lack of contrition about your wrong doing is cause for concern


News Item8/24/17 7:31 PM
J. Calvin  Find all comments by J. Calvin
I stand applauding that there are few pastors willing to stand against this tide of weak and fake Christians today who bathe in this depraved sespool of filth.

News Item8/24/17 1:51 PM
Ivan Karamazov | Texas  Find all comments by Ivan Karamazov
Sex, violence and intrigue. What is not to love from a worldly perspective?

News Item8/24/17 1:01 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | Polished number corrected  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Why are you not wrote:
list of twelve questions?
1-an anonymous moniker gets no credit
2-"2014, John Piper, founder of, listed 12 questions for Christians to ask themselves before watching the HBO fantasy drama."-unslothful can see
3- not exactly the same but close- edited for brevity& add cite
4-note the Bible text is the proper source for list - meaning NOT the corrupt paraphrased downgrades that others may tie in.
On SA site- a reference to the Bible has the Authorized Bible right there to look it up.
Titus 2:14"14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a
peculiar people, zealous of good works."

Or context of Mt 5:28-29 vs 27
"have heard that it was said
by them of old time,
Thou shalt not commit adultery:"
Corrupt texts cut out part of that verse-
Phil 4:13 ( part of 4:8's context)
"13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me."
Corruptors cut out "Christ"-who empowers us to obey verse 8

Added some authority to point 7&8
And his typo leading to my # notwithstanding -
"And he that doubteth is
damned if he eat,
because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin."

Improved --


News Item8/24/17 12:17 PM
Why are you not  Find all comments by Why are you not
Crediting John Piper for your list of twelve questions?

News Item8/24/17 11:14 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | fathead Fatima fatalism  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
The Quiet Christian wrote:
Thanks, IE.
as I noted-
1Tim4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
I had recommended this link earlier- with a major overview of RCC lies about "perpetual virginity" of Mary- a lie fostered by RCC ignorance or the passage cited.

Witnessing to Catholics.

The idea that the marriage bed is defiled drives much Mariolatry nonsense.

&Fatima devil visions

Glad to clarify.

Watching fledging hummingbirds now-
Beauty has good fruit.


News Item8/24/17 10:45 AM
S.Taylor | Mid-West  Contact via emailFind all comments by S.Taylor
Most Christians alive today are pretty much inoculated to movie discernment and become defensive when someone tries to offer any.

News Item8/24/17 10:40 AM
The Quiet Christian  Find all comments by The Quiet Christian
Thanks, IE. I argue that sex belongs between a husband and wife in the privacy of their bedroom as originally designed by the Lord, so unclear what you mean by the beauty of sex, but the rest of your list is great and suggestion is dead on. Thanks for standing up, Brother! It's a relief to read Christians standing up and saying "no" to the pornification of our society. Thanks to all who stand with Kevin DeYoung and IE. We need to pray for the creators, producers & purveyors of such utter filth to either come to Christ in repentence or be turned away from their perverted enterprise.

News Item8/24/17 6:34 AM
Ignominious Emirakan | Never seen never will  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Twelve Questions to Ask
Matthew 12:36
1. Am I Recrucifying Christ?
Titus 2:14
2. Does It Express or Advance My Holiness?
2 Corinthians 7:1
3. When Will I Tear Out My Eye, If Not Now?
Matthew 5:28–29
4. Is It Not Satisfying to Think on What Is Honorable?
Philippians 4:8&Galatians 5:13
5. Am I Longing to See God?
6. Do I Care About the Souls of the Nudes?
1 Tim2:9
7. Would I Be Glad If My Daughter Played This Role?

8. Am I Assuming Nudity Can Be Faked?

9. Am I Compromising the Beauty of Sex?
1 Timothy 4:3
10. Am I Assuming Nudity Is Necessary for Good Art?
11. Am I Craving Acceptance?
1 Jn 2:15 --
12. Am I Free from Doubt?
Rom 14:32
Getting to the heart of the matter, challenged Christians reading his blog who are OK with graphic nudity and sex to "take a week and pray every day, asking God if you are listening to the Spirit and reading the Word correctly on this matter."

Better yet, take a month to pray, and during that month do a detox of anything that could possibly be construed as sexually explicit or provocative. You may see with new eyes what you are too comfortable seeing at the moment. You may even discern a nagging conviction of sin that you've been pushing aside as nothing but religious baggage


News Item8/24/17 6:30 AM
Carl haydock | England  Contact via emailFind all comments by Carl haydock
I must admit I've never even seen 1 clip of it.
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