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Choice News SUNDAY, JUL 16, 2017  |  32 comments  |  3 commentaries
Having children is one of the most destructive things you can to do the environment?

Having children is the most destructive thing a person can to do to the environment, according to a new study.

Researchers from Lund University in Sweden found having one fewer child per family can save “an average of 58.6 tonnes of CO2-equivalent emissions per year”.

Eating meat, driving a car and travelling by aeroplane made up the list of the most polluting things people can do to the planet.

But having children was top, according to the new study, published in the journal Environmental Research Letters. ...


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News Item8/6/17 12:51 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
" the lives of children are no longer
surrounded by the loving atmosphere of the Christian home, but by the utilitarianism of the state." Very sad and very true. Satan's agenda has been to destroy God's design of family, and he has succeeded. According to some statistics, the number of babies born to single mothers is slightly over 40% {source - http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/cdc-babies-born-unmarried-women-exceeded-40-8th-straight-year}.
Many opt to live together and avoid God's design for family, which includes marriage. Only the homosexual desires to 'marry', which isn't possible according to God's word.

One in five women have children with multiple men - http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42364656/ns/health-childrens_health/t/us-moms-have-kids-multiple-dads-study-says/#.WYdILoTyvGg

There's NO commitment, and more often than not the burden to care for these children falls on the taxpayer, leaving both the dad and mom to go free and continue in the lustful ways that bring about these children.
Feminism has decided it's best to seek a career and skip the whole 'motherhood/wife' thingy. So what do we presently see? A HUGE meltdown of society, dysfunctional and on the brink of moral collapse. This is the end result of rejecting God's way for man's.

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News Item8/6/17 12:14 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
It is an interesting point that this statement appears in a book written in the 1920's.

"The most important of such institutions, according to Christian teaching, is the family. And that institution is being pushed more and more into the background. It is being pushed into the background by undue encroachments of the community and of the state. Modern life is tending more and more toward the contraction of the sphere of
parental control and parental influence. The choice of schools is being placed under the power of the state; the “community” is
seizing hold of recreation and of social activities. It may be a question how far these community activities are responsible for the modern breakdown of the home; very possibly they are only trying to fill a
void which even apart from them had already appeared. But the result at any rate is plain − the lives of children are no longer
surrounded by the loving atmosphere of the Christian home, but by the utilitarianism of the state. A revival of the Christian religion would unquestionably bring a reversal of the process; the family, as
over against all other social institutions, would come to its rights again." (J. Gresham Machen)(Christianity and Liberalism)

Somewhat familiar points today.

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News Item7/24/17 12:19 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Yes, they are using dead religion to further their agenda, who is behind all this? Satan

The desire is to 'thin out' the population, it's easier to control fewer people isn't it?

We who are in Christ will continue to look unto Jesus, and to keep our eyes not on what is seen but what is unseen. We know it will get much much worse...even so, come Lord Jesus! That should be our daily cry, a gut wrenching plea for our Lord to come.

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News Item7/24/17 12:08 PM
penny  Find all comments by penny
ladybug wrote:
You mentioned the Gates, I am sure you are aware they contribute to Marie Stopes international...was a good friend of Margaret Sanger and had the admiration of Adolf Hitler.
wow

and lookie here how they worm into the apostate united Methodists with the same agenda...

https://www.gatesfoundation.org/media-center/speeches/2008/05/william-h-gates-sr-united-methodist-conference

"I am here today to thank you on behalf of the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. We are proud to be your partner in this campaign to end the world’s worst killer of children. We believe the campaign cannot succeed without you.

"... and anti-malarial drugs that treat people who do get sick. Some of the money will fund the research and development of new and better tools, like a vaccine"

he's using the Christians to advance his vaccine campaigns, its all one and the same agenda for him, why can't Christians get this?

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News Item7/24/17 11:47 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Hi penned,

Thank you for the response, I do appreciate your clarifying!

You mentioned the Gates, I am sure you are aware they contribute to Marie Stopes international. Marie Stopes International is aptly named after the British eugenicist Marie Stopes who was a good friend of Margaret Sanger and had the admiration of Adolf Hitler. She had the same 'mentality' as Hitler and Sanger - http://www.ibtimes.com/marie-stopes-womens-rights-activist-or-nazi-eugenicist-848457

And Gates gives money to that organization?!?

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News Item7/24/17 11:43 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Hi Sr Ladybug, thanks for your interest in this subject. I agree that prayer is powerful because God is powerful and wants to work through His people!

Here's an example with the SBC that affects so many that really do love CHrist (but their money goes to ERLC)...

http://pulpitandpen.org/2015/09/04/sbc-executive-speaking-at-muslim-evangelical-interfaith-gathering/

Here's a quote: "The event is also co-sponsored by the International Interfaith Peace Corps, an Islamic organization (began with funding through the globalist Bill and Malinda Gates Foundation) whose goal is to, “to promote and reward interfaith work in order to bridge the gap between different religious cultures through tolerance, respect and understanding.” The organization, which was initially started to confront Islamic prejudices toward vaccination, has now been “reaching out” to “build bridges” between Christians and Muslims"

so gates uses Baptists to bring them together with muslems so that he can get them to like his vaccines?

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News Item7/24/17 10:30 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
"as long as the church lets gates (his dad was on board of PP, look it up) -- sit in our bed with a smile and grannies smocks on, there's something wrong with us."

Who are you referencing to penned? You come here daily and state the 'church' is doing nothing - who do you mean and how would you know? What are you doing penned?

Are you referencing to the visible church[es] or the true, elect church of God? You've been asked this before, but you never clarify. If you don't clarify, then you have insulted the elect of God both here on these boards and all across the globe, for we can only assume you mean the bride of Christ right?

BTW, prayer is the MOST POWERFUL tool the elect have.

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News Item7/24/17 10:22 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
well indeed the neufeudalists want the west killed off, that is obvious.

Bill Gates said bringing the world population to as close to the perfect zero as possible..

the Georgia Guidestones say that after the reset the world population will be 500,000

this is why they stripped out the US middle class, sent the jobs overseas, they rise up the east now and do all they can to demoralize the west and get infighting based on that demoralization

because their end goal is to depopulate the west, and I believe it has already been happening... birth rates, health rates and fertility rates of American born go down.. working class mostly can't have kids cuz too poor, except for those on social benefits who don't work... replacement scenario.

its about time we stop philosophizing and listening to what they're saying.

the wolf has shown up at the door, and the sheep sit down and discuss whether we should accept his offer or not.

huh?

are we little red riding hood?

as long as the church lets gates (his dad was on board of PP, look it up) -- sit in our bed with a smile and grannies smocks on, there's something wrong with us.

many an apostate church has worked with his foundation!!

where are the fiery sermons condemning the religion of this carbon credit scheme an

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News Item7/24/17 1:16 AM
BLBeamer | USA  Find all comments by BLBeamer
It's obvious what I need to do in response to this study: eat a double burger while driving my Hummer to the airport to fly on a trip to India where I will preach on the importance of having as many children as you possibly can.

My wife and I are too old to have children ourselves or I'd be doing everything I could in that regard, also.

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News Item7/23/17 12:43 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | EirenicIrony  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Mike wrote:
From the news:
"Having children is the most destructive thing a person can to do to the environment, according to a new study.
Researchers from Lund University in Sweden found having one fewer child per family can save “an average of 58.6 tonnes of CO2-equivalent emissions per year”.
Eating meat, driving a car and travelling by aeroplane made up the list of the most polluting things people can do to the planet."
Oh, I don't know about that, Sweden. I think filling your own country with religious fanatics is pretty destructive. How's that going, by the way? And we all know CO2 is good for growing things, right? And if we didn't eat meat, what would we do with all the cows? And if we didn't drive, how would we get to market to buy our vegan goodies? And if we didn't fly, how would the environmental wackos like those from Lund University, get to those international conferences on the environment?
One thing we can know for sure is, those researchers are not critical of their parents for having children. It's other people's children they want not to exist.

Sacrificial example Soylent Green style- offer themselves up to Swedish sausage factory- ad says
"Eating Vegetarians will save Gia"
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News Item7/22/17 6:21 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
From the news:
"Having children is the most destructive thing a person can to do to the environment, according to a new study.
Researchers from Lund University in Sweden found having one fewer child per family can save “an average of 58.6 tonnes of CO2-equivalent emissions per year”.
Eating meat, driving a car and travelling by aeroplane made up the list of the most polluting things people can do to the planet."

Oh, I don't know about that, Sweden. I think filling your own country with religious fanatics is pretty destructive. How's that going, by the way? And we all know CO2 is good for growing things, right? And if we didn't eat meat, what would we do with all the cows? And if we didn't drive, how would we get to market to buy our vegan goodies? And if we didn't fly, how would the environmental wackos like those from Lund University, get to those international conferences on the environment?

One thing we can know for sure is, those researchers are not critical of their parents for having children. It's other people's children they want not to exist.

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News Item7/22/17 6:18 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Sorry, Haman, but I think you have cross-posting, in this case...which you, yourself have been doing, by the way, mixed up with staying on topic, perhaps? In that case, yes, you're right, and it was off-topic.
Some things need to be responded to, while others could just be left by the wayside.
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News Item7/22/17 5:55 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | My Tern Bird says  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Could anyone explain what the last comment posted had to do with this news item?
It seems like a few posters here are using up the SA pages to carry on a personal vendetta that could have been easily done via a phoney call to "stick to the issue"( as though brethren fellowship on a Christian site is extraneous) or females type complaint that they are not part of the in-group discussion between brethren; doesn't the fine print say 'no personal attacks'?

Maybe an included line about the story would be less Mt 7ish
"This means recycling is between three and 13 times less likely to save the planet than avoiding that extra flight at its heaviest"
"Recycling a plane for greenies means adding a peddle powered sprocket & derailleur gears for all seats. "

Researchers found that avoiding one trans-Atlantic flight per year can save between 0.7 and 2.8 tonnes of C02 equivalent per year (depending on the distance travelled, amount of luggage on board and how many passengers on the flight) whereas recycling will typically only save 0.21 tonnes of C02 equivalent per year.

Avoiding one post per year can save tons of gas.

All hiss when Hamam's name is said at readings of Esther.
(Classic habit)

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News Item7/22/17 4:51 PM
Haman | Esther, OT  Find all comments by Haman
Could anyone explain what the last comment posted had to do with this news item?
It seems like a few posters here are using up the SA pages to carry on a personal conversation that could have been easily done via a phone call or emails between them; doesn't the fine print say 'no cross-posting'?
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News Item7/20/17 9:48 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
What nobody can figure out, John,is why, knowing what you know, you would ever remain within such a religious system. You even go so far as to say you will raise any children Catholic and be buried in one of the churches cemetarys. Your heart can't be aligned with two diametrically opposed faiths, whether you pretend this or that or not. You're either fully with Him, or you're fully against Him. There is no grey area.
Yes, I considered it progress, but was floored when you said you would never, ever leave Roman Catholicism. Sounds like you're trying to cover all the bases, just in case. The false religious system of Rome is plainly against Him as is evidenced by their own manmade doctrines, rituals, and dogmas, etc., and you sit right in the middle of it all, faithfully every weekend in plain support by the mere fact that you're amongst them.
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News Item7/17/17 11:45 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
ladybug wrote:
Norm
Are you aware that Jim condones murdering babies under the lie of saving the life of the mother, then twists Ex. 21:22-25 to 'fit' his agenda of death?
The Dems are just as guilty as the Republicans when it comes to allowing the shedding of innocent blood in America...BOTH PARTIES are guilty of covering the land with that innocent blood, which God will soon judge. Jim L. comes here daily, a goat disguised as a sheep, in his feeble attempts at pushing forth the same agenda all unregenerates have, which is the agenda of their father, the devil, who was a murderer and liar from the beginning.
May God have mercy on unregenerate sinners like Jim Lincoln, John Y., Steve R., and others who troll this forum to do the bidding of the enemy.
I am not unregenerate as I surrendered my life to Jesus as Savior and Lord some 20 years ago and I trust entirely in Him alone for salvation. If I was not really saved then I would never have started to attend that Baptist Church last September considering I previously stated I would never attend any Baptist or any other Evangelical Protestant Church faithfully every Sunday. And Pastor Steve would never had agreed to Baptize me via immersion if I was not really saved.
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News Item7/16/17 5:46 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
Amen to that Ladybug
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News Item7/16/17 5:18 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Norm

Are you aware that Jim condones murdering babies under the lie of saving the life of the mother, then twists Ex. 21:22-25 to 'fit' his agenda of death?

The Dems are just as guilty as the Republicans when it comes to allowing the shedding of innocent blood in America...BOTH PARTIES are guilty of covering the land with that innocent blood, which God will soon judge. Jim L. comes here daily, a goat disguised as a sheep, in his feeble attempts at pushing forth the same agenda all unregenerates have, which is the agenda of their father, the devil, who was a murderer and liar from the beginning.

May God have mercy on unregenerate sinners like Jim Lincoln, John Y., Steve R., and others who troll this forum to do the bidding of the enemy.

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News Item7/16/17 4:36 PM
Norm | Minnesota  Find all comments by Norm
Jim Lincoln wrote;

".the Republican Party's concern for human dignity ends the moment someone is actually born.

Right Jim. Nothing says "I love you" like unjustifiable executing your child prior to birth.

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News Item7/16/17 4:16 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
Treehuggers are excellent fertilizer, perhaps this will help lessen the affects of God's plan, that the planets, heavens and earth will wear out
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