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FRONT PAGE  |  9/17/2019
FRIDAY, JUN 9, 2017  |  47 comments
Bernie Sanders Grills Nominee Over Religious Beliefs
In a Senate Budget Committee meeting Wednesday, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders aimed a hostile line of questioning at Deputy Director of the White House Office of Management and Budget nominee Russell Vought.

Vought, a graduate of Wheaton College, wrote a defense of the school last year for The Resurgent after many attacked the school for its discipline of a professor who said that Christians and Muslims worship the same God. In the piece, he wrote, “Muslims do not simply have a deficient theology. They do not know God because they have rejected Jesus Christ, his Son, and they stand condemned.” (http://theresurgent.com/wheaton-college-and-the-preservation-of-theological-clarity)

Sanders first asked Vought, “Do you believe that that statement is homophobic?” (Sanders’ questions on this issue begins at 44:25) ...


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News Item6/22/17 11:14 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Now of course, Bill Moyers as always been something of a left of Southern Baptist hyphen hyphen but sometimes he came up with good articles. Republicans are certainly not free of applying religious test to people either. See, [URL=http://tinyurl.com/q593uap]]]Dyfunction of Parties[/URL] While the interview emphasizes the video a transcript is provided.
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News Item6/11/17 8:42 PM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
So true, something good to engage with a lost person, motivated by love & truth, why they are ever so guilty in, what they say others are doing & shouldn't be doing. One of the worst things you can be called today is "Homophobic," often defined as "having an irrational fear and hatred of homosexuals." However, while alleged homophobia (together with any opposition to homosexuality) is being aggressively intimidated out of existence by an ever-vigilant media and militant homosexuality, another phobia is growing, Christophobia, "an irrational fear and hatred of Christ and of Christians." Indeed, often those who are most vigilant against homophobia are the most violent in their Christophobia.
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News Item6/11/17 8:26 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Nancy,

I do pray for Jim, I also correct his errors and point out his agenda lest he cause someone to fall. It isn't arguing in my opinion, it's standing firm on God's truth, which we are called to do. Jim comes here to promote a Satanic agenda and cause division. The pearls before swine is accurate. Who knows, maybe God will open Jim's understanding by something that someone stated here {meaning a verse from scripture}.

I see your point and am glad you shared that point. God forbid someone read his rubbish and think it's okay to murder a baby based on the flimsy, worldly excuses he presents.

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News Item6/11/17 7:52 PM
Nancy | Orlando  Find all comments by Nancy
It seems that there's a lot of throwing pearls before swine in a lot of these news threads when it comes to Mr. Lincoln.
IMO, Let's pray for him and stop arguing with him.
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News Item6/11/17 6:26 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | Isabella Bometree  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Been re-reading Narrative of Sojourner Truth
"Then that little man in black there,
he says women can't have as much rights as men, 'cause Christ wasn't a woman!
Where did your Christ come from?
Where did Christ come from?
From God and a woman!
Man had nothing to do with Him."

"And what is that religion that sanctions, even by its silence, all that is embraced in the 'Peculiar Institution'? If there can be any thing more diametrically opposed to the religion of Jesus, than the working of this soul-killing system - which is as truly sanctioned by the religion of America as are her minsters and churches - we wish to be shown where it can be found."

That "peculiar institution" of slaughter of babies& parting them out was in the future to sister Sojourner- but the sentiment is the same-
--update
"And what is that religion that sanctions, even by its silence, all that is embraced in the '(baby killing)Peculiar Institution'? If there can be any thing more diametrically opposed to the religion of Jesus, than the working of this (Baby)killing system - which is as truly sanctioned by the religion of America as are her minsters and churches - we wish to be shown where it can be found."
--
"If it is not a fit place for women, it is unfit for men to be there."

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News Item6/11/17 6:10 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
It matters little to the elect of God what the world does, i.e., what it protests and marches against or for. The true child of God will stand firm on His truth and not go with the masses. God's word states clearly 'thou shalt not murder' - there are no exceptions to that command. It doesn't say it's okay to murder someone to save the life of another, it doesn't say it's okay to murder a baby if the woman was raped. This type of logic comes from the twisted minds of unregenerates who seek to defend what Satan desires - to kill. What does God say, that's all that matters. All the quotes and links given are meaningless. God has spoken and that settles it- Pro 6:16, 17  "These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him. A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood"

Again, Lincoln quotes a text completely out of context. I must be getting to him

Now, here's a relevant text for you Jim Lincoln, "ye must be born again".
Here's one more, Luk 13:27  "But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity."
Evil deeds and thoughts, like defending murder, puts you in the company of evildoers. 

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News Item6/11/17 5:46 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
So Jim, do you think Mike Pence is an "anti-abortion zealot" as the writer of your quote said? Does he fit the definition of zealot? I wonder if someone can be too pro-life? Gotta leave a bit of room for a bit of death?
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News Item6/11/17 5:22 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
To the Doña Quixotes out there- - whoever they may be.

Proverbs 19:13-14
A foolish son is ruin to his father, and a wife's quarreling is a continual dripping of rain. House and wealth are inherited from fathers,
but a prudent wife is from the Lord. ---ESV

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News Item6/11/17 4:53 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
For the Don Quixotes out there.
Nora Caplan-Bricker wrote:
In reality, Gingrich’s statement is but another “alternative fact.” The most recent Pew Research Center polling, conducted in October, suggests that support for legal abortion is at its highest point since 1995, with fifty-nine per cent of Americans favoring access to the procedure in all or most cases. Only fifteen per cent believe that abortion should be outlawed altogether....

... Pence projected a more modest confidence, urging his listeners to conduct themselves “with generosity, not judgment.” With that advice in mind, he said, “I believe that we will continue to win the hearts and minds of the rising generation.” The giant crowds that turned out at the Women’s March are just one suggestion that the hearts and minds of Americans are elsewhere. A Defund Plan Parenthood rally planned for February 11th has already prompted a broad mobilization of activists who are determined to defend women’s right to choose.

--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/ya6yor6l]]]http://tinyurl.com/ya6yor6l ( What the Anti-Abortion Movement Has Won)[/URL]
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News Item6/10/17 9:07 PM
Connor7  Contact via emailFind all comments by Connor7
Our dear Jim is a peculiar creature,
Liberal news stew and strange doctrine he cooks afresh
So that we are forced to have a devilish teacher
Though we, not his students, must eat this wretched mesh
A wonder worker he must be
He twists scriptures insomuch that he an elephant out of a flee
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News Item6/10/17 5:51 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Good comment Mike, you are right of course.

As usual, Lincoln pulls a couple of verses out of context in his attempt to silence women who point out the obvious....his evil agenda. Nice try, but it won't work. You see, Priscilla had no problem pulling Apollos aside and correcting him, and scripture did not condemn her for doing so. This is an open forum and NOT a church setting, but J.L. has no understanding of the context of the verses he quoted...how could he? He hasn't been born again by God.
His defense of Hunt is another sign of being in an unregenerate state.

As for B. Sanders, he is a typical unregenerate as well who gnashes his teeth at Christians. Christ did say the world would hate His elect, especially those who claim to be 'religious', like Jim and various others who post here under the disguise as 'Christian'.

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News Item6/10/17 4:43 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
There is one thing we can say about Jim/Lincoln. He knows how to change the direction of a thread. How easy it was for him, knowing the thoughts many here already have about Dave Hunt, to get the discussion away from the subject matter, and in part away from Jim himself, and onto Hunt. So while it is thought his agenda is being revealed and prevented, it isn't. Quoting Hunt is merely a strategy, imo. Seems to be working.
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News Item6/10/17 4:16 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Connor7, you can be offended all you want by the Bible

1 Corinthians 14:As in all the churches of the saints, 34 the women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. 35 If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.---ESV

Now of course this forum isn't a church, but I think it's plain where a woman is to get advice from on religious matters. Probably some women here are as thankful as I am that neither of us are married to each other!

Now if her husband or others are members of a Dominionist type church then pity about the source of advice.

Dave Hunt was entirely accurate about, Operation Rescue in his article, [URL=http://tinyurl.com/m3w6sdn]]]http://tinyurl.com/m3w6sdn (Political/Social Activism)[/URL]. If he erred on this group was to imply that they were Christian--which they aren't! For representing Christianity one can tell much difference between them and the Planned Parenthood, though PP is likely more honest.

So, anyway, Dave has rendered a valuable service in many areas and I can't help if some Reformed types got their bloomer twisted on his position on free will.

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News Item6/10/17 2:29 PM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
Amen Ladybug, to God be the Glory, especially when we have God center Gospel, instead of a man centered gospel message, that makes God to be at the beckoning call of the fallen sinner.

To my recognition, Jim, hasn't ever answered, to me or anyone else, who has asked him, in love. What is he personally doing, to share truth & light into the lives of others, who are murding & butchering their babies in the womb.

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News Item6/10/17 2:27 PM
Connor7  Contact via emailFind all comments by Connor7
Jim, I am offended by what you said to my sisters in Christ, that they need a guru to interpret the scriptures properly, and pennelope rightfully pointed out that it's the Spirit of God that teaches us (believers) and not some guru, you have no scriptural foundation for offering another mediator other than Christ.

Now for those who are actually saved, I recommend James White, I listen to The Dividng Line, regularly and have learned a lot from him, concerning the heresy of molonism, I think he has some excellent objections to it and exposes the folly of it, presuppositional apologetics, Islam, and things of that nature.

Just as James White let's people speak for themselves, we let Jim speak for himself, and we do try to be patient with you Jim, but it's hard to when you say that murdering babies is okay, that we shouldn't legislate morality, when you won't answer questions, when you give false facts, and claim to be a Christian but your fruit is otherwise.

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News Item6/10/17 2:22 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
This is beneficial as well concerning Hunt's erroneous ways - http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/2009/06/01/dave-hunt-a-man-who-refuses-to-be-corrected/

http://vintage.aomin.org/DHOpenLetter.html

J.L. only quotes Hunt because it benefits J.L.'s evil agenda. He could care less whether or not Hunt teaches accurately, or what Hunt believes.

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News Item6/10/17 2:20 PM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
So Jim as I have provided accurate information to you, about Dave Hunt, speaking for his own self. In the 2 links, I provided, please don't come on here, especially now, as I have provided links & material to you, that accurately shows & reflects. That Dave Hunt, doesn't support Reformed Theology. So please Jim, stop saying that, Dave Hunt clearly says, he doesn't support Reformed Theology. Mr. Hunt didn't know what, he was talking about, pertaining to Reformed Theology & how does that line up with the Bible & the context of scriptures, reflecting back to one, what is God telling me. I say that in love, for I am nothing without Biblical humility to be apart of my walk. I don't want to come across as a know it all or sound not loving towards, others, who disagree with, what I am saying. But standing on the Word of God is ever so important, when we are talking about who God is, in how He saves & justifies sinners, who aren't worthy of Unmerited favor alone amen.
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News Item6/10/17 2:01 PM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
Here is Dave Hunt out of his own mouth, he really hadn't studied much on Reformed Theology, that he was very ignorant of the topic of matters, pertaining to the Doctrines of Grace. That he doesn't know the original languages, as that aspect is foreign to him, as he says that, from the link provided.

Dr. White does a fine job, in being loving towards him, by allowing, Dave Hunt to speak for his own self. In exposing Dave Hunt, as he doesn't accurately speak on matters, that pertain to Reformed Theology, that lead one to opening up a Bible & what does Bible say to one, in breaking down the text of scriptures. In what does the Bible teach one, in context of what specific scriptures, are telling one. It's clear, that, Dave Hunt, is ever so confused on the Biblical Doctrine of Gods sovereignty that God saves whoem ever He pleases in doing so. That Dave Hunt doesn't understand the Biblical doctrine of the bondage the fallen spiritual condition one is in apart from regeneration. As salvation wouldn't take place if the Lord doesn't do the seeking first, in the first place & thanks & praises to Him,. That came to seek & saves His people, in knowing the fallen sinner is uncapeable of pleasing , the Triune God, without, the spiritual heart of stone removed amen.

http://www.sermonaudio

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News Item6/10/17 1:56 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Spot on Need Him.In reality, the doctrines of grace were not penned by Calvin, but by God. This would benefit J.L.- https://michaeljeshurun.wordpress.com/2017/06/09/jesus-taught-the-tulip-long-before-the-calvinist/

Also for J.L. "A genuine Christian fears no test; he is willing, yea, wishes, to be tried by God Himself. He cries, “Examine me, 0 Lord, and prove me; try my reins and my heart” (Psalm 26:2). Therefore he is willing for his faith to be tried by others, for he shuns not the touchstone of Holy Writ. He frequently tries for himself, for where so much is at stake he must be SURE. He is anxious to know the worst as well as the best. That preaching pleases him best which is most searching and discriminating. He is loath to be deluded with vain hopes. He would not be flattered into a high conceit of his spiritual state without grounds. When challenged, he complies with the apostle’s advice in 2 Corinthians 13:5. The presumptuous professor is filled with pride, and, having a high opinion of himself, is quite sure that he has been saved by Christ. He disdains any searching tests, and considers self-examination to be highly injurious and destructive of faith" - https://michaeljeshurun.wordpress.com/2017/06/09/a-sure-way-to-know-youre-saved-2/

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News Item6/10/17 12:52 PM
NeedHim  Find all comments by NeedHim
Jim to state that Dave Hunt, supported Reformed Theology, is absolutely not correct, He wrote books against, Limited Atonement & Predesnation. Dr James White, who is a elder at a Reformed Baptist Church in Phx, AZ, debated, Dave Hunt & refuted his books.

Phil Johnson spoke to Dave Hunt as well also, that Dave Hunt, didn't clearly represent what the Reformers taught from their own writings, pertaining to Reformed Doctrines. Dave Hunt was exposed in love & shown, in what he said & wrote, wasn't accurate at all. He was talked even before he had written his books, how wrong & misguided, in not knowing his subject matter. Proof is in the pudding of the volume of work, that, Dr. James White did, in exposing Dave Hunt, hatered for Reformed Theology amen.

http://www.aomin.org/aoblog/?s=Dave+hunt

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