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FRONT PAGE  |  6/19/2019
MONDAY, APR 24, 2017  |  94 comments
Christians to Blame for 'Virtually All of Our Cultural Problems,' The Blaze's Matt Walsh Says

Popular conservative Christian columnist Matt Walsh, best known for his work published on Glenn Beck's The Blaze, says Christians are to blame for the rise of the sexual revolution and warns that the LGBT agenda won't stop until tolerance for concepts like "transspecies" and "transabled" are legally mandated.

In his new book, The Unholy Trinity: Blocking the Left's Assault on Life, Marriage, and Gender, Walsh argues that even though liberals and Democrats have directly ushered in the legalization of same-sex marriage, it was the "lack of resistance from conservatives and Christians" that "may have been most immediately responsible for our current situation as it pertains to marriage."

"That lack of resistance, the eagerness with which many Christians ceded marriage to the homosexual lobby, has its roots in many deadly trends that infiltrated the Church in the West long ago," Walsh wrote, adding ...


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John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
B. McCausland wrote:
John, you are thinking hard!
In my perception, the unconverted, or the carnal person either tends to disregard 'rules' in a rebellious mode, or takes to the shelter of keeping rules as his/her means of physical self-preservation, or spiritual self-justification, or both; yet all ignore principle
See, God is not rules, but spiritual substance of pure good. He set up rules for man and as you say the new nature by his Spirit yearns for the absolutes /principles making His essense
".. now are we the sons of God, and it does not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure" 1 Jh 3
Ah yes, I can appreciate that. Thank you.

The sheep of Christ's pasture always have the desire to be totally as a sheep or be like wheat, and lament any tendency to act as a goat or a tare. We can look forward to that wonderful day when we shall be completely like HIM, our glorious and sinless Saviour, and even the presence of sin will be removed for ever.

"Spiritual substance of pure good"...

What a great description of Jehovah!

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News Item5/6/17 2:56 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
.. one with a perfect nature, will be perfectly principled, such as deity.
And one with a sinful nature, not comprehending deity, will hardly be principled and they will need to see the rule, in order to see even their own sinful nature and guilt before God. The law therefore being a schoolmaster.
... conversion aims at restoring in the man the divine image, thus getting him to work from the same root, the principle .. Thusly we bear fruit, being joined to Christ, and our fruit is of the Spirit
John, you are thinking hard!

In my perception, the unconverted, or the carnal person either tends to disregard 'rules' in a rebellious mode, or takes to the shelter of keeping rules as his/her means of physical self-preservation, or spiritual self-justification, or both; yet all ignore principle

See, God is not rules, but spiritual substance of pure good. He set up rules for man and as you say the new nature by his Spirit yearns for the absolutes /principles making His essense

".. now are we the sons of God, and it does not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
And every man that has this hope in him purifies himself, even as he is pure" 1 Jh 3

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News Item5/6/17 3:05 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
B. McCausland wrote:
Principles are values; while rules aid to their implementation.
..
E.g. all the 'law' points towards the fulfilment of one principle: love, either to God or to our neighbour, as Christ resumed it; however the law details for us how this principle, love, is implemented
".. love is the fulfilling of the law" Rom 13:10
..
Sadly, there are those that on observing people with such approach, they deem them as 'legalists', when in reality they are mainly implementing principles using a set of valid rules.
These are some of the ideas.
Thanks for your patience.
Have a blessed day
Thanks for sharing that. It does make sense.

I suppose one with a perfect nature, will be perfectly principled, such as deity.

And one with a sinful nature, not comprehending deity, will hardly be principled and they will need to see the rule, in order to see even their own sinful nature and guilt before God. The law therefore being a schoolmaster.

And that conversion aims at restoring in the man the divine image, thus getting him to work from the same root, the principle rather than the rule. Thusly we bear fruit, being joined to Christ, and our fruit is of the Spirit.

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News Item5/5/17 7:21 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Gracie wrote:
Desegregate the churches and revolutionize world view. Desegregate the churches and experience the authority Christ left his church.
Better yet, let people participate in the churches of their choice. Or shall we forcibly bus them to other churches, based on skin color? Who are the real racists but the ones who see people as color groups in need of blending into neutered grey?
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News Item5/5/17 5:11 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | BinaryBind  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
Even though many conservative Christians spoke out, and continued to speak out, in opposition to efforts to legalize same-sex marriage, Walsh believes that Christians who spoke out against same-sex marriage was the "exception" not the norm.

"Therein lies the problem. The Christians speaking out in favor of so-called 'traditional' marriage should not have been the exception but the rule," Walsh said. "As for what we could have done to prevent the ruling, I think the best thing we could have done, aside from merely arguing in favor of true marriage (even if most of us weren't willing to do even that much), was to demonstrate, through our own lives and our own marriages, what 'sanctity' looks like. But, unfortunately, many Christians had forfeited the notion of marriage as a permanent union, or even a procreative union, long before the gay activists showed up on the scene."

Now?"legislation brewing in California --(Senate Bill 179) SB-179 creates a brand new or third class of gender that would appear on driver's licenses, birth certificates, etc. It would be deemed non-binary
&
would allow change in gender
on birth certificate as young as age 3.

tinysa.com/sermon/5317110059540

--
&
tinysa.com/sermon/427172345390

Swanson-agrees with Walsh

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News Item5/5/17 4:30 PM
Gracie | SA  Find all comments by Gracie
John UK wrote:
Ah yes, it makes better sense to me now. Thanks Sr B.
Desegregate the churches and revolutionize world view. Desegregate the churches and experience the authority Christ left his church.
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News Item5/5/17 1:45 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
Ah yes, it makes better sense to me now. Thanks Sr B.
Fine. Glad things make sense to you.

Principles are values; while rules aid to their implementation.

E.g. all the 'law' points towards the fulfilment of one principle: love, either to God or to our neighbour, as Christ resumed it; however the law details for us how this principle, love, is implemented
".. love is the fulfilling of the law" Rom 13:10

The same could be applied to the principles of modesty, or respect in dress, for instance.
Conscious parents educate their children in these two principles by establishing a number of rules to attain to the principles, as not to go half naked to the dinning table, not to wear tight or see-through garments, jeans, or short skirts in females, etc...
However, these rules do not fabricate instant modesty or respect unless the principle is in mind. E.g. a body-hugging long skirt violates the principle of modesty as much as a tight jean in a female, etc...

Sadly, there are those that on observing people with such approach, they deem them as 'legalists', when in reality they are mainly implementing principles using a set of valid rules.

These are some of the ideas.
Thanks for your patience.
Have a blessed day

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News Item5/5/17 10:09 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
B. McCausland wrote:
A basic principle in Christian living is self-control. Anything impairing/endangering such is to be avoided. Hence abstinence may appear as an 'unjustified' rule to some, in order to control any possibility of drink going out of hand occasionally, while for others is the continual safe implementation of a principle.
Ah yes, it makes better sense to me now. Thanks Sr B.
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News Item5/5/17 7:46 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
The laws derived from the principles of safety are not always based on logical need. There are rural stretches with speed limits set more in accordance with suburbia. But they are a great source of income for local governments, less so for safety purposes. Observation will often find a police car at the bottom of a hill, not to catch the habitual speeder, who is an actual danger to self and others, but the accidental one whose car may increase a few miles per hour going down the hill. Otherwise parking anywhere on that road would be seen, if the effort were to snag the habitual speeder. Safety codes in such things as plumbing and electricity are often arbitrary, otherwise they would be the same wherever you went. That is why when you are reading something say, about wiring, they cover their butts by saying "Check with your local codes." Sorry, electricity behaves the same everywhere. But skilled trade unions influence legislators, and codes get passed having little to do with safety, and much to do with the necessity to call in someone able to meet the code requirements. What we see as safety enforcement is sometimes a game being played.
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News Item5/5/17 5:18 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
principles/rules
A principle is valid in any part of the globe, while rules may differ from one place to another
E.g the rule for safe road crossing varies from countries driving on the left side of the road from those on the right: say in one place one looks first right, then left, while the opposite in the others, yet the principle of safety is the same in both settings

A basic principle in Christian living is self-control. Anything impairing/endangering such is to be avoided. Hence abstinence may appear as an 'unjustified' rule to some, in order to control any possibility of drink going out of hand occasionally, while for others is the continual safe implementation of a principle

Any rule is tempered/stretched to its limits by our fallen nature. Say if the speed limit is 40, we try to get as close to the limit as we can, say 39, or 41, social drinking may tend the same way

Speed rules exist because of the principle of preservation of life. Speed limits vary in windy narrow roads, in built-up areas or in highways. Though this rule changes in each setting, the principle does not.
In the case of guaranteed responsible driving capable of making adequate judgments all the time, speed limits would be obsolete

Cont

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News Item5/5/17 2:09 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
I was posting the links in general penned, for anyone who may have an interest in them.
Here is a re post of the other two links...
http://gracegems.org/25/queries_for_self_examination.htm

http://gracegems.org/25/self_renunciation.htm

They both should work if you copy and paste.

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News Item5/4/17 3:09 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
thank you Ladybug! the irony is that I agreed with Mike's post and I also agreed with much of US's original post and then with BmC's alternate concerns and with Br Igny and John UK and much of yours. I focused on one area of concern and here is where we are at. I do not like the focus to be on me, its quite awkward, in fact, really wanted to make some points and hope to move on. I consider them all fellow sojourners and have respect for them.

I see that you have given a 500 page link of George Whitefield? (I couldn't get the other link to work). I've scrolled to p94 on piety and it looks like a bit of study... was there something in particular you wanted to point out there about piety? I'll keep it bookmarked...

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News Item5/4/17 1:05 PM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
Here is another beneficial link - https://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/sdg/whitefield/SelectedSermonsofGeorgeWhitfield.pdf
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News Item5/4/17 10:52 AM
ladybug  Find all comments by ladybug
penned,

It's interesting that you quote 1 Peter concerning railing, having compassion, etc. I wonder why it is you can accuse the brethren of being apathetic without just evidence, then fail to ask for forgiveness for your false accusation? It would seem you see no reason to recant your accusation and seek forgiveness of those you've offended, like Unprofitable Servant and Mike of NY. They do not want to be included in your accusative statements, yet you do not acknowledge this.
Forgiveness starts by admitting wrongdoing.
Once again I ask, When will you give either an explanation or an apology to the brethren concerning your accusation of being apathetic? Why is it you dance around this question and avoid it altogether penned? You insist on being called a 'sister', yet you refuse to repent of your sin of false accusation. We ALL are in need of daily repentance - pride and arrogance are sins that root deeply in the heart and are displayed here all too often. May God the Spirit work in our hearts and point us to our sins. Self-examination is a necessity for the elect.
This is from John Angell James, it blessed me - http://gracegems.org/25/queries_for_self_examination.htm
and this - http://gracegems.org/25/self_renunciation.htm

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News Item5/4/17 10:06 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Sister Ladybug, my name came from Christopher, he named me Pennelope. Lord bless you and keep you.

B. McCausland wrote:
Penn
It is a token of God's grace in the heart when we display 1 Peter 3:8-13 as the rule of conduct and practice
Every blessing
indeed I am convicted of this. thank you to the brethren here for reminding me of this, as the scriptures you all have provided have said, we would be known for the love of the brethren. also the difference between a law and a principle... the summary of the law as Christ gave. Lord bless you and keep you.

1Peter 3:8.9

"Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:

"Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing."

it is not easy to do, the flesh fights it, as the Lord reminds me, how much I have been forgiven, and that is as much as I am to forgive.

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News Item5/4/17 4:47 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
Thanks Sr B....
It is a great evidence of the new birth ...
... a psalm!
... principles/rules. Interesting. I am still thinking about that one. Don't hesitate to say more about that ...
Thanks, John, busy now, we'll see to this shortly
Kind regards
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News Item5/3/17 10:43 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Carl Bernstein wrote:
The key Administration players were all devout Roman Catholics -- CIA chief William Casey, Allen, Clark, Haig, Walters and William Wilson, Reagan's first ambassador to the Vatican. They regarded the U.S.-Vatican relationship as a holy alliance: the moral force of the Pope and the teachings of their church combined with their fierce anticommunism and their notion of American democracy. Yet the mission would have been impossible without the full support of Reagan, who believed fervently in both the benefits and the practical applications of Washington's relationship with the Vatican. One of his earliest goals as President, Reagan says, was to recognize the Vatican as a state "and make them an ally."
---[URL=http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,159069,00.html]]]Cover Story: The Holy Alliance[/URL]

Ah, the end justifies the means. this is a big part of America's problem, being in bed with the Romish Church. [URL=http://www.gty.org/resources/print/articles/A222]]]http://tinyurl.com/hbtgqek (Politically Incorrect?)[/URL]

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News Item5/3/17 9:46 AM
John UK | Wales  Find all comments by John UK
B. McCausland wrote:
Thanks, John, edifying thoughts and passages
Grace and peace be yours always in Christ
-
"Great peace have they which love thy law:
and nothing shall offend them." Ps 119:165
Thanks Sr B. Yes it came about since I watched the Gospel of John film (recently came out), and had impressed on my mind the words of Jesus to his disciples to "love one another". So I did a search on e-sword for the phrase and compiled the edifying list of occurrences.

It is a great evidence of the new birth. "We know that we have passed from death unto life because we love the brethren".

I'm glad you quoted a psalm! I am now singing these every day and will soon be teaching others the same. They become so powerful, being the word of God inspired, and most instructive. I have copies of the Scottish Psalter, and am sorting out tunes suitable for each psalm. It is quite a revolution in my life, having good effect.

Yes, principles/rules. Interesting. I am still thinking about that one. Don't hesitate to say more about that. I believe you brought it up before on that lengthy debate we had over booze, but at that time I couldn't quite see the point of it. Anyway, God bless you also.

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News Item5/3/17 2:42 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
.. a list I compiled a couple of days ago
John 13:34-35; 15:12 & 17
Romans 12:10; 13:8
Galatians 5:13
Ephesians 4:2
1 Thes 3:12; 4:9
Hebrews 10:24
1 Peter 1:22; 3:8
1 John 3:11; 4:7; 4:11, 4:12
2 John 1:5
John, pondering about the preeminence of love each verse above includes, and aware of how this is the core of Christ's 'new command', it comes to mind what missionary Bruce Martin has recently taught to young people about the relationship between a principle and rules.

Basically he sustained that a rule is 'temporal', but a principle is eternal

He illustrated this by explaining how children need 'rules' to safeguard proper conduct till they come to maturity, when no longer they need the rules because they have learned how to abide by principles.
E.g. the rule of crossing the road always holding to the hand of an adult becomes obsolete when a child has learned how to apply & master the principle of road safety by himself.

This brings the sense of how Christ could resume all the law in the two main commandments of loving God and neighbour.

Something to think about

-

"A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; ... By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to an

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News Item5/2/17 6:25 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John UK wrote:
I can second that, Sr B. And your text appears in a list I compiled a couple of days ago. Most rewarding, and because it is God's word, something to be obeyed.
John 13:34; 13:35; 15:12; 15:17
Romans 12:10; 13:8
Galatians 5:13
Ephesians 4:2
1 Thessalonians 3:12; 4:9
Hebrews 10:24
1 Peter 1:22; 3:8
1 John 3:11; 4:7; 4:11, 4:12
2 John 1:5

May the Lord bless all his people, chosen in Christ before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love: Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will, To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

Bless the LORD, O my soul!

Thanks, John, edifying thoughts and passages

Grace and peace be yours always in Christ

-

"Great peace have they which love thy law:
and nothing shall offend them." Ps 119:165

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