Itâ€™s no longer up for debate. â€śThe Shackâ€ť promotes â€śuniversal reconciliation,â€ť a heretical doctrine that claims everyone in the world will eventually be saved by God and therefore there is no need to be concerned about hell.
William Paul Young, author of the â€śChristianâ€ť bestselling book that is the source of the eponymous film, is out with another book, â€śLies We Believe About God.â€ť
His new book contains claims that many Christians would find not just shocking, but blasphemous.
Igny, thank you for your words of wisdom. You know there has been a move in kabbalist culture to normalize pedophilia and more comes out on the propensity for elites to have child trafficking rings. more comes out that this is the norm for some? we also have the famous artists spirit cooking rituals and all sorts of horrific child art that should raise many questions from the normal human.
there is an occultic view of drawing energy from the life of the innocent.
the image of the giant molech holding the infant child comes to mind and that statue was where the babies were thrown, thinking they would draw life or power from it.
as sick as this is, it is an occultic view.
So I have not read the book, but I hear that this whole thing starts off with an abduction and murder.
and that the father is distraught and has to come to terms with it?
and although from a nitty gritty point of life, yes terrible things happen.
problem I have is that this book seems to be built off of a man finding greater knowledge of God through the sacrifice of a brutally attacked child.
something doesn't sit right with me on this alone, besides how the trinity is dealt with in such PC archtypes... I do not know that the author is intentionally occultic, but it is the spirit of th
"Rules and obligations under Godâ€™s grace are not wrong. They are an integral part of Bible Christianity. We are saved by grace without works, but we are saved â€śunto good worksâ€ť (Ephesians 2:8-10). The New Testament epistles are filled with rules and obligations that believers are expected to keep and filled with warnings about disobedience. The true grace of God does not let us live as we please. It teaches us, rather, â€śthat, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present worldâ€ť (Titus 2:11-12). That is a very strict standard of Christian living.
There is hypocrisy in churches and there are false gospels that are law-based rather than grace-based, and most churches today are corrupt, just as the Bible warns they will be in the end times (e.g., 2 Tim 4:3-4), but the solution is not to reject the literal interpretation of Scripture and create a new God! God is amazingly compassionate and loving, and He has proven that on the cross, but God is also holy and just and requires obedience and hates and punishes sin, and that side of God cannot be ignored without creating a false God. " From SA's David Cloud review. I read the Shambles (shack) back in 2007. Cloud has it right. "meat offered to idols" in shack-1Cor10:28
My fear of God and love remains, it is not foolish nor darkened from seeing the movie. If u have experienced God's love and faithfulness, u are likely to be immensely touched seeing the metaphors on screen, God bless..
jen wrote: Did the critic see the movie? Don't go expecting precise theologian doctrine but I believe it can open many hardened hearts. There is power through the HOLY SPIRIT to transform through the gospel. The book was written as an allegory.Many people can relate to the pain of Mac the main character. I was hesitant to see the movie because of the critics claims but it only validated my Biblical beliefs and I think many others will feel the same!
We are *born of God* by his 'seed' (sperma/spora) in us, not by man-made *imaginations*, which is what fiction is.
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"Whosoever is born of God ... his seed (sperma) remains in him: ... because he is born of God." 1 John 3:9
"Being born again, not of corruptible seed (spora), but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which lives and abides for ever." 1 Pet 1:23
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"But became vain in their *imaginations* and their foolish heard was darkened" Rom. 1:21
jen wrote: Did the critic see the movie? ...The book was written as an allegory
When Fiction Talks About God tinysa.com/sermon/32217439481
When fiction talks about God, things can get confused. After looking at the different ways works of fiction can introduce a 'God' character, One who DID look at "fiction" /"allegory" & theology on SA in 3rd part of look at one of the problems with 'The Shack', "by trying to depict the Trinity, it inevitably falls short of the Biblical teaching.
He says" Why do so many evangelicals say that they found 'The Shack' to be helpful? I suggest that it is because they have read the book therapeutically - as a book about healing from hurt - rather than theologically - as a book about God. But the book comes to us as a book about God, and the author asks us to read it that way."
Therapeutic Vs. Theological Reading-Gervase N. Charmley Nice quite talk about book & movie. 2nd part of 3 -- Pilgrim's allegory & decent theology paradigm. "18 No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him."Jn1:18
Did the critic see the movie? Don't go expecting precise theologian doctrine but I believe it can open many hardened hearts. There is power through the HOLY SPIRIT to transform through the gospel. The book was written as an allegory.Many people can relate to the pain of Mac the main character. I was hesitant to see the movie because of the critics claims but it only validated my Biblical beliefs and I think many others will feel the same!
Heresy is as old as the serpent but Mclearan and company are especially dangerous because the RC church and the industrial entertainment complex can grab onto the heresy and make it another religion to be shoved into, such as; the queer lifestyle, the atheist dogma, environmental terrorism and the all powerful leftists US government. After trump, there will be a secular reckoning, the faithful Christian in America will not be able to understand.
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death."
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire."
Matt 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. 46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."
= TWO different destinies predicted and ordained by GOD!!
"The Shack" is one of the most dangerous so-called "Christian" books ever published, printed and sold.
Tragically, it seems, William Young's heresies have only intensified with his latest work.
We can only pray that people will not be deceived, and those who have fallen into this deception will be snatched out of it like a firebrand from the burning.
Pastors, evangelists, and other Christian fathers, while governing their houses well, must also avoid being overbearing and harsh, and churches must uphold righteousness and the Word of God, yet without falling into the danger of legalism.May God help us to do so, and save and deliver our young people and children from heresy.
About this time, William Young wrote a story about God for his children, initially with no intention to publish it. However, he later edited it, expanded it and published "The Shack", which is the heretical novel that we have today.
It was immediately taken up by huge bands of ill-taught "Christians", who resonated with his human treatment of the Godhead, his Universalistic concepts, and the emphasis on love and grace, but no justice and judgment. He also went back to a heresy in the Early Church, Sabellianism or Modalism (well known in the heresies of "Oneness Pentecostals", and groups like the United Pentecostal Church, with one God, who is in 3 modes at different times, Father, Son and Holy Spirit).
Paul DeYoung, a very godly and orthodox Evangelical Christian, with great sadness in his heart over the apostasy of his former friend, felt he had no alternative, but to challenge firmly "The Shack", in its rip roaring success, and he published his own rebuttal of the now infamous novel. His book, "The Burning of the Shack", is now available.
Also people like Dr Michael Youseff, an Arabic American pastor in Georgia, David Cloud as quoted by Jim Lincoln, Roger Oakland and others, and no doubt a number of Sermon Audio pastors have I reached against "The Shack".
To follow on from Jim Lincoln's comment, tragically it seemed that as a child, William Young was badly abused both by tribespeople that his parents witnessed to, and I believe harshly treated by his overbearing father, and a very legalistic church environment.
Despite this, he seemed for some time to hold a fairly evangelical stance in to his adulthood, marriage and early Christian career.
He was a scholar, lecturer and teacher in some kind of Christian institute, and one of his colleagues and friends was Paul DeYoung, no relation despite the similar surname.
However, unbeknown to his colleagues, resentments and rebellion from his childhood experiences seethed in William Young's heart.
He had to present an academic paper one day, in front of his colleagues, including Paul DeYoung. To their astonishment and shock it was a heretical paper, with hints of Universalism, though not named as such, and denying certain factors of the justice and judgment of God, though affirming His love and grace. I believe there were some hints of unorthodox opinions about the Trinity, though not at this time very blatant.
Paul DeYoung challenged his friend on this, but William Young was extremely defensive, defended his work, and soon after resigned from the institute.
David Cloud wrote: William Young was one of the speakers at the February 2009 National Pastorâ€™s Convention in San Diego, sponsored by Zondervan and InterVarsity Fellowship. The 1,500 attendees were pastors and Christian workers. Other speakers included Bill Hybels, Leighton Ford, Brian McLaren, and Rob Bell. Young had his own break-out session and was interviewed in one of the general sessions by Andy Crouch, a senior editor of Christianity Today. It was said that 57% of the attendees had read â€śThe Shack,â€ť and Young was enthusiastically received. Crouch treated Young as a fellow believer and did not even hint that there might be a damnable theological problem with the way that God is depicted in the book. When Young said, â€śI donâ€™t feel responsible for the fact that it [â€śThe Shackâ€ť] is tampering with peopleâ€™s paradigmsâ€ť or how people think about God, the crowd responded with clapping, cheers, and laughter. The emerging church loves to tamper with traditional Bible doctrine and there is no fear of God for doing so!
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Young was born in Alberta in 1955 but spent most of the first ten years of his life in Papua New Guinea with his missionary parents, who were ministering to a backwards tribal group called the Dani. He graduated from Warner Pacific College, which is affiliated with the Church of God (Anderson, Indiana), with a degree in religion.