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FRONT PAGE  |  8/20/2019
MONDAY, APR 3, 2017  |  68 comments  |  1 commentary
Growing Number of Americans Love Jesus but Don't Go to Church, Barna Finds

While an increasing number of Americans are reportedly abandoning the institutional church and its defined boundary markers of religious identity, many Americans still believe in God and practice faith outside its walls, a new Barna study has found.

Barna has released a report on the first of a two-part exploration of faith and spirituality outside the church, looking at the "fascinating segment of the American population who, as the saying goes, 'love Jesus but not the church.'"


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John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
B.M., Pastor Steve of that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings accepts that I am saved and a true child of God because of the fact that I gave my life to Christ some 20 years ago during an Altar Call. The following verses are assurance of salvation: Romans 8:38-39; Ephesians 2:8; Romans 10:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17. Here is the website of that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings for you to look up their doctrinal stand on salvation to prove that they teach and preach the biblical doctrine of salvation. If Pastor Steve was not satisfied that I am really saved and a proper candidate for Baptism via immersion than I would not be getting Baptized at that Baptist Church on a Sunday after worship in the near future.
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News Item4/6/17 4:45 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John Yurich USA wrote:
1. Pastor Steve ... teaches the biblical doctrine of salvation. How dare you smear his character.
2. You do not believe that I am really saved do you?
3. According to Baptist teaching which comes from the Bible I am saved as I gave my life to Christ
4. I am a proper candidate
1. If he preaches, or not one section of the Bible at the expense of another we cannot assess here without further proof, yet we should expect any true shepherd to teach and excercise discernment,
See:
"And they (the priests) shall teach my people the difference between the holy and profane, and cause them to discern between the unclean and the clean."

2. Christ provides you the answer:
"My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me"
Christ does not abide in the type of dark systems you seem comfortable to dwindle in, so things do not add.
The true sheep hear and follow truth

3. Can you give verses of the Word of God in which you base your assurance?

4. According to Scripture you are between two diametrical opposite camps. Your fellowship with a system of darkness /error disqualifies you as a true child of God

"If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth"

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News Item4/6/17 4:02 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
B. McCausland wrote:
You expect everyone here to accept your personal criteria without evidence, except the testimony of your posting, which speaks very much against your judgement when contrasted against the truth taught in Scripture
Pastor Steve of that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday morning preaches the biblical doctrine of salvation. How dare you smear his character. You do not believe that I am really saved do you? According to Baptist teaching which comes from the Bible I am saved as I gave my life to Christ. And I am a proper candidate for Baptism at that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings because of having given my life to Christ.
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News Item4/6/17 3:57 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John Yurich USA wrote:
Pastor Steve of that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings is not a blind leader but is one of the best Christians I have known and one of the best Baptist ministers I have known.
You expect everyone here to accept your personal criteria without evidence, except the testimony of your posting, which speaks very much against your judgement when contrasted against the truth taught in Scripture
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News Item4/6/17 3:51 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
B. McCausland wrote:
An obvious fact
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John Y, Christ warned about settings of blind leaders leading the blind, giving us even instructions on how to respond to such settings"
"Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch."
Pastor Steve of that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings is not a blind leader but is one of the best Christians I have known and one of the best Baptist ministers I have known.
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News Item4/6/17 3:45 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
Adriel wrote:
If you cannot tell the difference between REAL Church and pagan worship, idolatry and blasphemy then maybe you are lost John!!
An obvious fact

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John Y, Christ warned about settings of blind leaders leading the blind, giving us even instructions about how to respond in such settings.
See:

"*Let them alone*: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the pit"

You anchor your resolve in easy belivism, which is not existent in Scripture

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News Item4/6/17 3:34 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Adriel wrote:
If you cannot tell the difference between REAL Church and pagan worship, idolatry and blasphemy then maybe you are lost John!!
May God have mercy on your soul.
The worship at that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings is true worship. You are the one that stated the worship at that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings is pagan worship.

B.M., When I met with Pastor Steve of that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings to prepare for Baptism I was asked by him if I accepted Jesus as my Savior and I stated I had during an Altar Call 20 years ago. And Pastor Steve accepts that I am really saved and a proper candidate for Baptism at that Baptist Church.

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News Item4/6/17 3:27 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John Yurich USA wrote:
.. membership roll
John, in NT times the apostles kept a criteria for accepting people in their fellowship based on conduct.
See:
"we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly ...
if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed."

This followed Christ's pattern, see his words:
"Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels"

In holding fellowship with systems not conducive to Christ's will we enter into the realm of his displeasure.

You are wise in your own eyes when making your own measuring stick that dictates what is right or wrong, acceptable or not.

Compromise is not a gospel virtue. See this in Paul's own words:

"Be not thou therefore ashamed of the testimony of our Lord, nor of me his prisoner: but be thou partaker of the afflictions of the gospel according to the power of God" 2Tim 1:8

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News Item4/6/17 3:25 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
John Yurich USA wrote:
So that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings is pagan worship, idolatrous and blasphemous?
If you cannot tell the difference between REAL Church and pagan worship, idolatry and blasphemy then maybe you are lost John!!

May God have mercy on your soul.

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News Item4/6/17 3:14 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Adriel wrote:
God does not put pagan worship, idolatry and blasphemy in the same box as Christianity.
Neither should you.
So that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings is pagan worship, idolatrous and blasphemous?
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News Item4/6/17 3:11 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
John Yurich USA wrote:
I also attend the local Baptist Church on Sunday mornings where I go to Adult Sunday School before worship, where I fellowship
God does not put pagan worship, idolatry and blasphemy in the same box as Christianity.

Neither should you.

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News Item4/6/17 3:05 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Adriel wrote:
John Y;
God removed the true Church from the Roman Catholic abomination. You are disobeying GOD by remaining a part of such blasphemous and idolatrous practices.
"2Tim 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: FROM SUCH TURN AWAY."
"2Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:"
John Y. It seems that the Roman Catholic abomination has taken over your life and you cannot escape from satanic idolatries.
I also attend the local Baptist Church on Sunday mornings where I go to Adult Sunday School before worship, where I fellowship with a lot of individuals, where I am involved in various church activities like going to soup lunches after worship and where I will be Baptized via immersion on a Sunday after worship in the near future as a public profession of faith that I gave my life to Christ.
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News Item4/6/17 2:59 PM
Adriel  Find all comments by Adriel
John Yurich USA wrote:
Of course being on the membership roll of any church is totally superfluous to salvation.
John Y;
God removed the true Church from the Roman Catholic abomination. You are disobeying GOD by remaining a part of such blasphemous and idolatrous practices.

"2Tim 3:5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: FROM SUCH TURN AWAY."

"2Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you:"

John Y. It seems that the Roman Catholic abomination has taken over your life and you cannot escape from satanic idolatries.

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News Item4/6/17 2:48 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Mike wrote:
Do you know what "membership roll" means in terms of your eternity, John? Exactly nothing. Think about it, stop fooling yourself.
Of course being on the membership roll of any church is totally superfluous to salvation. I am not sure if I will be placed on the membership roll of that Baptist Church that I attend on Sunday mornings after I am Baptized via immersion at that Baptist Church. If I am placed on the membership roll of that Baptist Church I attend on Sunday mornings after I am Baptized via immersion I will not object.
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News Item4/6/17 2:44 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Hmmm, I once again pointed out to John, to make URL=http://www.jesus-is-lord.com/bart.htm]]]http://tinyurl.com/ht63zl9 (Pilgrimage From Rome)[/URL] and John you should know the answer now to, [URL=http://tinyurl.com/zb3tfm3]]]http://tinyurl.com/zb3tfm3 (Is the One True Church Roman Catholic?)[/URL] After all these years, you still can't come up with the right answer? Hint: No

John, you are just aiding and abetting Satan by your support of the Romish Church, which is a devilish creation.

Matthew 7: 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’

Acts 1:19 Repent therefore, and turn again, that your sins may be blotted out, ---ESV

So, John, take warning.

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News Item4/6/17 2:44 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John Yurich USA wrote:
If one does not want to be officially Protestant(even if one attends a Baptist Church on Sunday mornings without being on the membership roll of that Baptist Church while attending the Catholic Church on Saturday) then one would remain on the membership roll of the Catholic Church.
Do you know what "membership roll" means in terms of your eternity, John? Exactly nothing. Think about it, stop fooling yourself.
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News Item4/6/17 2:21 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John Yurich USA wrote:
If one does not want to be officially Protestant(even if one attends a Baptist Church on Sunday mornings without being on the membership roll of that Baptist Church while attending the Catholic Church on Saturday) then one would remain on the membership roll of the Catholic Church.
If one would love truth, for Christ' sake who is the truth, he/she would not remain in any predicament causing affront to his name.

See:

"Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you" John 15:14

"If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love;
even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love." John 15:10

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News Item4/6/17 12:13 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
B. McCausland wrote:
Certainly, going by your average posts here, you seem to halt between two opinions, as Elijah of old said
Why then do you state that people should remain in a system whose doctrines you say to repudiate?
If one does not want to be officially Protestant(even if one attends a Baptist Church on Sunday mornings without being on the membership roll of that Baptist Church while attending the Catholic Church on Saturday) then one would remain on the membership roll of the Catholic Church.
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News Item4/6/17 10:02 AM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
back to sound doctrine wrote:
***The ignorance of Protestant history is monumental today***
The efforts of the Protestant Reformers and the Puritans in dismissing the pope as the head of the true church and identifying him and his apostate religion as Antichrist were, at one time, widely known throughout Protestant Churches and beyond them. Their exegesis was later attacked by the Jesuits so successfully, that it is virtually unknown in what are still called “Bible-believing” circles today.
The ignorance of Protestant history is monumental today. The hermeneutical labors of the Reformers and the Puritans to showcase the Scriptural basis of the true Catholic Church on Earth, have been eclipsed by the Jesuits, repudiated by the Tractarians, ignored by evangelicals, so as to become virtually unknown in the “non-Papal” churches and academia today.
The Battle over the Identity of the Catholic Church at the Time of the Reformation and Afterwards (AD 1517 – 1820) Part 1 by Ronald N. Cooke
No doubt. Though fully aware of the Reformer's shortcomings, one of the tricks nowadays contributing to this ignorance has been the wedging of a gap between 'baptists' and 'Protestants' to the exclussion of fair historic evidence
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News Item4/6/17 4:20 AM
back to sound doctrine  Find all comments by back to sound doctrine
***The ignorance of Protestant history is monumental today***

The efforts of the Protestant Reformers and the Puritans in dismissing the pope as the head of the true church and identifying him and his apostate religion as Antichrist were, at one time, widely known throughout Protestant Churches and beyond them. Their exegesis was later attacked by the Jesuits so successfully, that it is virtually unknown in what are still called “Bible-believing” circles today.

The ignorance of Protestant history is monumental today. The hermeneutical labors of the Reformers and the Puritans to showcase the Scriptural basis of the true Catholic Church on Earth, have been eclipsed by the Jesuits, repudiated by the Tractarians, ignored by evangelicals, so as to become virtually unknown in the “non-Papal” churches and academia today. At one time such truths were universally known in Protestant
Churches and were adopted into their creeds, which still exist today.

http://trinityfoundation.org/PDF/The%20Trinity%20Review%20341a%20The%20Identity%20of%20the%20True%20Catholic%20Church%20Cooke.pdf

The Battle over the Identity of the Catholic Church at the Time of the Reformation and Afterwards (AD 1517 – 1820) Part 1 by Ronald N. Cooke

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