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FRONT PAGE  |  6/17/2019
TUESDAY, MAR 28, 2017  |  29 comments
Mexicans who help build Trump wall 'traitors,' top Archdiocese says
Mexicans who help build U.S. President Donald Trump's planned border wall would be acting immorally and should be deemed traitors, the Catholic Archdiocese of Mexico said on Sunday, turning up the heat on a simmering dispute over the project.

In a provocative editorial, the country's biggest Archdiocese sought to increase pressure on the government to take a tougher line on companies aiming to profit from the wall, which has strained relations between Trump and the Mexican government.

"Any company intending to invest in the wall of the fanatic Trump would be immoral, but above all, its shareholders and owners should be considered traitors to the homeland," said the editorial in Desde la fe, the Archdiocese's weekly publication. ...


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News Item4/2/18 9:57 PM
penned  Find all comments by penned
true Israel are born again believers sealed to the Prince of Peace, Jesus Christ according to the New Testament.

Anyone who would harm the brethren or break them apart (according to their race) are in rebellion to the new covenant and lack understanding.

May the Lord lead them to repentance for making an idol and harming the brethren.

As their nations fall to islam under a communist movement, let their eyes be opened...

....for eternity will be shared among the persecuted brethren, even those persecuted by those who were expendible for a false kindgom, that CHrist never authorized...

as He stood with His disciples and declared.... no stone will go unturned.

the Mosaic law had fulfilled its purpse in Christ... the temple was now Christ and His church... "ye are the temple of the Holy Spirit..."

and at his passing the curtain to the inner court tore open...

man would have access to God, because His sins could be forgiven, because of the perfect Lamb of God

who interceded for the elect, a new expanded nation of Jews and Gentiles, who would be His Ambassadors, until He returned again to judge the living and the dead...

and before His return, there must be a great falling away (ie the scofield rapture as they claim themselves) 2thes2:3 before the son of

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News Item4/2/18 12:02 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Paul Bedard wrote:
A virtually impenetrable fence quickly and cheaply built by Israel to keep terrorists and thousands of unwanted refugees out is fast becoming a model for President Trump's wall...
--[URL=http://tinyurl.com/y7nj8hj6]]]Copying Israel's wall would cut Trump's price nearly in half[/URL]

There are numerous nominal Christians and churches in Israel already, and there are actually Christians in Israel also. The nominal Christians and some of the actual Christians are probably disliked by many Jews in Israel, because they do not recognize, [URL=https://www.levitt.com/essays/israel-church]]]Israel and the Church: the Differences[/URL]

The best missionaries to the Jews, are former Jews themselves. Jews for Jesus and the Zola Levitt Ministries probably have been good delivers of the Christian message.

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News Item3/30/17 3:54 PM
Gracie | Mercy Seat  Find all comments by Gracie
Unprofitable Servant wrote:
pretty sure Israel doesn't allow Christian missionaries you can only get in on a work visa.
There are a few Christian churches there already.

As for American Christians who go there on tour, they could turn Israel upside down.

BTW, is having Jerusalem a tourist attraction equivalent to Peter wanting to build a tabernacle for Jesus, Moses, and Elijah on the Mt of Transfiguration?

Just thinking about the role the Holy Spirit has in converting the soul when we are moved by inventions of men.

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News Item3/30/17 10:49 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
John Yurich USA wrote:
I have been in several Catholic Churches where the Crucifix on the wall behind the Altar had a depiction of the Risen Jesus on it.
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Jesus didn't rise from the cross, John. He rose from the tomb. Any depiction of the risen Christ on the cross is a false one.
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News Item3/29/17 11:33 PM
Unprofitable Servant | TN  Find all comments by Unprofitable Servant
Gracey wrote:
I wonder how he would respond to the Palestinian crisis? A modern day holocaust is occurring.
Do Christians hate the Jews so much until they will not go to Israel in mass numbers and in their closed neighborhoods here in America and give them the Gospel?
When you really hate someone you stay as far away from them as you can. Right?
They need to be converted.
pretty sure Israel doesn't allow Christian missionaries you can only get in on a work visa.
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News Item3/29/17 9:19 PM
Gracey | Mercy Seat  Find all comments by Gracey
John Yurich USA wrote:
Luther was only error free in terms of religious doctrine and not in any secular doctrine such as hating the Jews. So Luther was in error to hate the Jews.
I wonder how he would respond to the Palestinian crisis? A modern day holocaust is occurring.

Do Christians hate the Jews so much until they will not go to Israel in mass numbers and in their closed neighborhoods here in America and give them the Gospel?
When you really hate someone you stay as far away from them as you can. Right?

They need to be converted.

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News Item3/29/17 5:14 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hi Kev...good to hear from you. Hope all is well.
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News Item3/29/17 4:35 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
G'day and god bless, I'm doing well thanks kev and Christopher.
G'day John.
Only Jesus was perfect.
Luther, like all humans made mistakes, I don't particularly like anti Semitic views, I'm not an Israelite, I'm a Christian.
Israel are The Nation/people That God chose as his.
So in my train of thought, Luther was far from perfect and was most certainly not always correct.
The reformers did much good, but they also left much that should've been challenged, but all in god's time.
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News Item3/29/17 4:16 PM
B. McCausland  Find all comments by B. McCausland
John Yurich USA wrote:
1. Luther was only error free in terms of religious doctrine and not in any secular doctrine such as hating the Jews.
2. So Luther was in error to hate the Jews.
1. None of the Reformers were 'popes', John, all were 'fallible', say not perfect.
2. The issue of Luther and the Jews needs to be better documented in its historical context

3. Christ being God, the command of not making an image of him applies. See,
"I and my Father are one" Jhn 10:30

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image,
or *any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above*" Exo 20:4

"Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire ... only ye heard a voice.
Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure" Det 4

"No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he has declared him."Jhn 1:18

"The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he sees the Father do:
for what things soever he does, these also does the Son likewise" Jh 5:19

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News Item3/29/17 2:27 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Unfortunately, John Y., Luther was in error in more things than that. See [URL=http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/luther/general.htm]]]http://tinyurl.com/gnvynm7 (Martin Luther---General Teachings/Activities)[/URL].

His anti-Jewishness can only be considered anti-Christian,

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News Item3/29/17 2:18 PM
Kev | San Diego  Contact via emailFind all comments by Kev
Hey Christopher and Dave hope you guys are having a blessed day. You guys take care.
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News Item3/29/17 2:14 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
John,
The problem with your answer is that the presence of a crucifix within church walls has nothing to do with doctrine. Yet, you stated that Luther was led by The Spirit to retain it. To me, this sounds as if you believe anything, doctrinal, or otherwise, that Luther said or did was error free and that all should follow and believe. Otherwise, your first comment doesn't make sense.
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News Item3/29/17 1:31 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
Hey John,
I could bring other topics up in addition to this, but one question has come up several times concerning Luther that you never address.
According to you, Luther was not able to err, being under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, as you often say. With this in mind, how do you explain his utter hatred of the Jews, and the fact that he wanted them all dead? How do you qualify this, given your position?
Luther was only error free in terms of religious doctrine and not in any secular doctrine such as hating the Jews. So Luther was in error to hate the Jews.
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News Item3/29/17 1:10 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Hey John,

I could bring other topics up in addition to this, but one question has come up several times concerning Luther that you never address.
According to you, Luther was not able to err, being under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, as you often say. With this in mind, how do you explain his utter hatred of the Jews, and the fact that he wanted them all dead? How do you qualify this, given your position?

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News Item3/29/17 11:57 AM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Mike wrote:
That's not logical, John.
I have been in several Catholic Churches where the Crucifix on the wall behind the Altar had a depiction of the Risen Jesus on it.

Christopher, Luther under the guidance of the Holy Spirit kept the Crucifix in the Lutheran Church. So if the Holy Spirit guided Luther to keep the Crucifix in the Lutheran Church then the Holy Spirit is not against the Crucifix.

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News Item3/29/17 11:13 AM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
Thanks Dave, I hope you're doing good.
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News Item3/29/17 5:35 AM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
Amen brother Christopher!
Our blessed assurance is our risen Christ in heaven, that is coming back. For our glory and faith lies in the grace of the empty cross.
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News Item3/28/17 9:24 PM
Lottie | Ohio  Protected NameFind all comments by Lottie
Well, I've lived long enough to have seen many people who should have had neither crucifix nor cross in their possession. By the way they were living it was obvious that they were not thinking about Christ crucified or risen.
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News Item3/28/17 4:32 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
I don't believe a false image, some artists imagery, of Christ should be depicted anywhere, anyway. As far as the cross is concerned, I believe it should be empty, since Christ has risen, conquering, and transcending death and the grave.
Don't get me started on the pontifical staff that the Pope carries with a contorted, emaciated, disfigured Christ hanging helplessly on it.
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News Item3/28/17 4:02 PM
Ignominious Emirakan | ArtsTartsy  Find all comments by Ignominious Emirakan
John Yurich USA wrote:
Crucifix with the Risen Christ on it on the wall behind the Altar.
An artful way to deny basic definition- but-
A crucifix (from Latin cruci fixus meaning "(one) fixed to a cross") is an image of Jesus on the cross, as distinct from a bare cross. The representation of Jesus himself on the cross is referred to in English as the corpus (Latin for "body").
Tho-
Average Pagan Dali's version uses a Teseract (4 dimensional figure) with a floating form above it to defy convention in attempt to convey hyperdimesionality.
Corpus Hypercubus - a 1954 image.
&then cf-

Hb2:18
What profiteth the graven image that the maker thereof hath graven it; the molten image, and a teacher of lies, that the maker of his work trusteth therein, to make dumb idols?
Lv26:1
Ye shall make you no idols nor graven image, neither rear you up a standing image, neither shall ye set up any image of stone in your land, to bow down unto it: for I am the LORD your God.
Ex20:4
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:

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Dali's strange stuff may be "art"-
" dead Jesus"-nope - that's a graven image

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