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FRONT PAGE  |  11/24/2017
TUESDAY, MAR 21, 2017  |  19 comments
David Rockefeller Dies at 101

David Rockefeller, the banker and philanthropist with the fabled family name who controlled Chase Manhattan bank for more than a decade and wielded vast influence around the world even longer as he spread the gospel of American capitalism, died on Monday morning at his home in Pocantico Hills, N.Y. He was 101.

A family spokesman, Fraser P. Seitel, confirmed the death.


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News Item3/28/17 12:17 PM
BiblevR | United States  Find all comments by BiblevR
We often forget the Lord is not willing that any should perish but that ALL should come to repentance. The Scriptures teach clearly that God is not a respecter of persons. God looks upon the heart. Was this man saved? None of us truly know but God. To know that this man may have not been saved leaves a heaviness on the heart. We often forget that the Lord himself wept when He went to a place that would eventually reject Him. Was this man involved in Secret Socities who promoted... you fill in the blank... from what I gather yes... however
We as Christians need to remember that the battle is not between flesh and blood but of evil spiritual beings in high places who use men to perform their bidding on this Earth. How many can honestly say myself included and am convicted of... that I prayed for this man to be saved? I did not agree with the things this man stood for and to hear of his death that he may be in eternal torment does not make me rejoice but reminds me of what the Scripture tell us our life is but a vapor here for a brief period and then vanishes away...
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News Item3/21/17 7:51 PM
Youth in Asia | Asia  Find all comments by Youth in Asia
I got saved in my 20's, I immediately had thoughts about all my favorite celebrities, olympic heroes, who taught me many things in life, who inspired me during my youth because of their hard work, I would search out the tabloids and news articles to see if they were remotely religious, or even a mention of a church, because I could not picture them going to hell. But the more I matured in Christ, I realized a personal confession of Jesus Christ from a person is worth much more than a second hand account of their church life. If you John Yurich are upset at me condemning most of the worlds heroes to eternal hell, where even a million years of torture and pain is not the end, don't blame me, blame the false teachers who fooled them, including the false Baptists or Protestants, the Catholic Church, Pope, Mother Theressa..etc
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News Item3/21/17 5:44 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Gentlemen please take note of the following section on the scion John Sr. in Wikipedia. It will not only tell about some of the background of John Rockefeller Sr. But it is also a snapshot of religious history and the United States. It was part of http://tinyurl.com/hae4p7g (Charles Finney's Theology Ravaged the Evangelical Movement) the Northern Baptists became part of the American Baptist denomination. Anyway the following is a short section on Rockefeller and has interesting information on the beliefs of many

http://tinyurl.com/k23kvv4 (Religious views John D. Rockefeller, Sr.)

Mike of New York, thanks for your comments. The Rockefeller Republicans would be lot more acceptable to me , if they had a conservative social philosophy--let alone religion!

http://tinyurl.com/kxzwf9h (Steven Rockefeller & others wants NY state to raise their taxes.)

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News Item3/21/17 4:36 PM
Dave | Oz  Contact via emailFind all comments by Dave
G'day John y.
In Australia there are many different Baptist denominations inside the Baptist umbrella. I assume it's probably even more accentuated in the USA.
The Independent Baptist Church is works based salvation. Point blank, that's just what they believe, and that is the opposite of what Christ taught.
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News Item3/21/17 3:56 PM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
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Yes, Mike of New York, I did see some names in the Wikipedia article. There are social sciences if they are like Pataki are completely unacceptable. You can tell us what you thought of George Pataki.
John Y., Many Rockefellers were Eastern Baptist, and if you read some of the material on them they are works orientated. See (Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses).
Didn't think much of him, but then Republican candidates for governor in NYS have to make some Democrat noises to get elected at all. That's because we have a massive Democrat growth hanging off our southeast corner.

btw, a Rockefeller Republican is like other RINOs except they have more money.

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News Item3/21/17 2:08 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
John Y., before I get to your comment and while I'm thinking about it, D. Trump called himself a "Rockefeller" Republican as pointed out in the Wikipedia article.

I'm going to have tho think about where I saw that remark that John D.'s Sr. mother gave him the works salvation, unfortunately I think it was on a PBS special on the Oil Industry.

Anyway,

Jack Beatty wrote:
Eliza Rockefeller's fortitude in adversity gave John an ''abiding respect for women'' and a deep religiosity. From his father's love of money and his mother's love of God, he built up a fortress of righteousness around his business practices. ''I have always regarded it as a religious duty,'' he said as an old man, ''to get all I could honorably and to give all I could.'' The giving was not guilt-whipped penance for the getting, as begrudgers claimed, for even as an impecunious clerk in a Cleveland commodities brokerage, Chernow points out, the 20-year old-Rockefeller tithed to the Erie Street Baptist Mission Church. Through his church, Rockefeller met two people who transformed his life.
--http://tinyurl.com/lw5g22y (A Capital Life)

Also see, http://tinyurl.com/k23kvv4 (Religious views)

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News Item3/21/17 1:40 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Jim L., Since when do Baptist Churches teach a works oriented salvation plan? All Baptist Churches teach the biblical doctrine of salvation.
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News Item3/21/17 1:23 PM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
As I pointed out in an earlier message you only get one chance to read an article a month from this source, http://tinyurl.com/n6h95mt (Rockefeller Republican Redemption?) and it is quite a good one. You can read the Wikipedia article on http://tinyurl.com/mr4d4tc Rockefeller Republican) as often as you would like.

You can also find an article on George Pataki in Wikipedia which the first article I mentioned gave as a typical Rockefeller Republican. His social stances were / are obnoxious. See the Wikipedia article, George Pataki supports abortion He wouldn't have gotten my vote!

Yes, Mike of New York, I did see some names in the Wikipedia article. There are social sciences if they are like Pataki are completely unacceptable. You can tell us what you thought of George Pataki.

John Y., Many Rockefellers were Eastern Baptist, and if you read some of the material on them they are works orientated. See http://tinyurl.com/z2fu7j2 (Roman Catholics, Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses).

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News Item3/21/17 1:19 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Christopher000 wrote:
We can only hope, John, but what information is your "probably" based upon?
David Rockefeller stated "The Christian ethic played an essential part in my upbringing".
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News Item3/21/17 12:48 PM
Christopher000 | Rhode Island  Find all comments by Christopher000
We can only hope, John, but what information is your "probably" based upon?
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News Item3/21/17 12:01 PM
John Yurich USA | USA  Find all comments by John Yurich USA
Rockefeller probably accepted Jesus as his Savior and thus is in Heaven.
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News Item3/21/17 11:21 AM
penned  Find all comments by penned
Mike wrote:
For starters here's a few more than zero, Jim, and these are just from the Senate.
John McCain
Mitch McConnell
Lindsey Graham
Orrin Hatch
Susan Collins
Wouldn't it be nice if they resigned?
funders of ISIS

surveilling other politicians and justifying it through false narratives to shut down peaceful discourse and force wars no one wants

moving arms from Libya to Syria for jihadists

ya, things like that seem pretty serious.

pulling land rights from our ranchers because they are selling uranium to Russia?

pay to play

missing children in Haiti

seth rich

Michael hastings

could there be a reason they are squawking so loud?

...McCain, songbird, Hanoi tapes, Mccain, daddy USS Liberty.

sings Barbara ann tune joking about bombing Iran, after she declares "we came, we saw, he died" cackle, cackle, they've got some screws loose in the brain. Maxine thinks Russia bombed korea or something nutty, others thought islands float. whatever. nutty as a loon.

Rockefeller's judgment... his soul is not not at peace.

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News Item3/21/17 10:27 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
Ah, Mike, I bet you didn't read the article, because there are about zero moderate Republicans holding office then you would know got your description of RINOs is reversed. They love their country more than their careers.
For starters here's a few more than zero, Jim, and these are just from the Senate.

John McCain
Mitch McConnell
Lindsey Graham
Orrin Hatch
Susan Collins

Wouldn't it be nice if they resigned?

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News Item3/21/17 9:11 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
Ah, Mike, I bet you didn't read the article, because there are about zero moderate Republicans holding office then you would know got your description of RINOs is reversed. They love their country more than their careers.
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News Item3/21/17 8:21 AM
Mike | New York  Find all comments by Mike
Jim Lincoln wrote:
The article that SA picked to describe him, was quite good. I will say one thing he certainly doesn't remind me of any modern Republicans.
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There are a lot of moderate Republicans, Jim. Remember, the ones we call RINO's? The ones who like their careers more than they like their country?
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News Item3/21/17 6:44 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
This is a very interesting article, and you had better read the article the first time you access it they only allow one free article per month! http://tinyurl.com/n6h95mt (Rockefeller Republican Redemption?) from which,
Luke Phillips wrote:
... these are certainly not the good old days. Pataki is about as much of a Republican as Senator Jim Webb of Virginia is a Democrat—which is to say, by contemporary standards, not very much of a Republican at all. Pataki is an old-line Northeastern Republican, coming out of the tradition and environment that shaped Theodore Roosevelt, Thomas Dewey, and Nelson Rockefeller—three other 20th-century GOP Governors of New York. The last of those, Rockefeller, bequeathed his name to the breed of socially moderate, fiscally prudent Republicans ...
The only problem was, I couldn't stomach Nelson Rockefeller when he was around. Anyway, really an excellent article - - and no mention of our present President by the way.
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News Item3/21/17 1:46 AM
Jim Lincoln | Nebraska  Find all comments by Jim Lincoln
The article that SA picked to describe him, was quite good. I will say one thing he certainly doesn't remind me of any modern Republicans.
Reuters wrote:
His fortune, investments in real estate, share of family trusts and other holdings were estimated at $3.3 billion in March 2017 by Forbes magazine. Seitel said Rockefeller had donated nearly $2 billion in his lifetime to organizations including the Museum of Modern Art in New York and Rockefeller University.

He remained a lifelong member of the moderate "Rockefeller Republicans" wing of that party, including his 2006 co-founding of Republicans Who Care, to support the party's moderates.

---http://tinyurl.com/l7uar2e (Billionaire philanthropist David Rockefeller dies at age 101 in New York)

True YA,

Isaiah 40:7-8
The grass withers, the flower fades when the breath of the Lord blows on it; surely the people are grass. The grass withers, the flower fades, but the word of our God will stand forever. ---ESV

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News Item3/21/17 1:33 AM
Anonymous friend | Parts unknown  Find all comments by Anonymous friend
Rockefeller was a Globalist, illuminati bankster. He backed population control and was a member of the shadow government of America. Globalists and one world religion advocates are mourning his death. But I suspect he is in those terrors of Psalm 73 right now.
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News Item3/21/17 1:18 AM
Youth in Asia | Asia  Find all comments by Youth in Asia
I once did a lesson where I named some names and asked the students to identify them, nobody could. The names were of powerful and rich people of the late 1880's. The point was how futile it was to hold on to fame, since once you're dead, you will be forgotten after a few generations.
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